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Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...

stahrgazer wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...

You read it wrong, then.

I said, law abiding citizens should BE the militia volunteering to patrol schools, like a neighborhood watch.

Juan_Bottom wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:Small countries like Switzerland took less than a decade to turn full-Socialist

I hate to break it to anyone - especially someone at the vanguard of the national intelligentsia as yourself - but Switzerland is not "full-Socialist" [sic] or even a "social democracy." On the Esping-Andersen decommodification index it is classified as a 'Liberal' economy, just like the U.S., which is not surprising given Switzerland's privately run for-profit health insurance system, lower spending on public education and banking-sector owned government.

http://www.espanet2012.info/__data/asse ... ream_2.pdf

Don't confuse the (relative) absence of endemic public sector corruption in Switzerland (versus the U.S.) and more efficient bureaucracies with the presence of a social democracy. In other words ...

Juan_Bottom wrote:Small countries like Switzerland took less than a decade to turn full-Socialist

Before you decide to seize control of the ship, you may want to take a navigation class or two.

Or maybe get one of the molecular biologists or astrophysicists you bowl with to tag in for you in this thread ...

I literally know nothing about Switzerland's government

Haggis_McMutton wrote:I'd support a measure requiring all guns at all times to be painted in alternating stripes of light purple and lime green.

This way people can still use guns for whatever purpose they see fit, but the macho factor is drastically reduced.

Seattle police exchanged $80,000 in gift cards for guns Saturday in a buyback event that resembled a freewheeling outdoor gun show as private buyers offered cash deals to tempt those standing in line. People on foot and in vehicles were corralled into a parking lot underneath Interstate 5 between Cherry and James streets, where they traded unwanted weapons to police for gift cards of $100 for handguns, shotguns and rifles, and $200 for assault weapons.

Officers stood by as makeshift gun shows sprang up on the sidewalks, just steps away from the buyback tents, as gun enthusiasts and collectors waved wads of cash for the guns being held by those standing in line.

“I’d prefer they wouldn’t sell them,” [Police Chief] Diaz said of the people in line making deals with the gun buyers.

One man jumped out of his vehicle as he was waiting in bumper-to-bumper traffic at the buyback and asked how much the gun enthusiasts and collectors were willing to pay for his three guns. He pocketed $500.

Dean Sabol, of Shoreline, who was turning in his grandfather’s shotgun and rifle, said the police were understaffed and slow, creating a free-for-all of buying and selling literally just a few feet away.

“It’s worse than a gun show,” Sabol said as he stood in line.

Police wandered the streets advising people to turn in their guns so the guns so they could be destroyed instead of selling them to the gun enthusiasts.

http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/ ... ckxml.html

Juan_Bottom wrote:

stahrgazer wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...

You read it wrong, then.

I said, law abiding citizens should BE the militia volunteering to patrol schools, like a neighborhood watch.

That's what the Black Panthers and KKK have done in the past.
What do you call a system of government that has armed patrols everywhere?

stahrgazer wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:

stahrgazer wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"Law abiding citizens" should have militias to patrol and protect them.... kk thanx...

You read it wrong, then.

I said, law abiding citizens should BE the militia volunteering to patrol schools, like a neighborhood watch.

That's what the Black Panthers and KKK have done in the past.
What do you call a system of government that has armed patrols everywhere?

You're still reading it wrong.

The BP and the KKK could hardly be considered volunteer militia formed like a neighborhood watch to protect schools; and a militia of volunteers like a neighborhood watch is hardly a government patrol.

In fact, the reason to prefer a volunteer militia like a neighborhood watch is to prevent "the government" from having armed patrols everywhere - which is right in line with the 2nd Amendment.

2dimes wrote:How do you suggest we keep whitey out of our schools.

A Swiss paper wrote Friday that the 73-year-old had been granted citizenship, according to the Associated Press. The Nutbush, Tenn.-born singer has passed a local civics test and interview.

The singer wanted to "clarify her situation," Turner's rep told the Swiss newspaper Zuerichsee-Zeitung.

"Tina Turner will therefore also give back her U.S. citizenship," her rep said.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/go ... 5546.story

Although they pay lower taxes across all income brackets than Americans and other Europeans, many Swiss are increasingly critical of the preferential tax treatment their government extends to wealthy foreigners.

http://world.time.com/2012/10/31/switze ... -numbered/

Juan_Bottom wrote:In the slave-holding South, militias existed only to hunt down fugitive slaves. They also formed the basis of lynch mobs, and they were the first armed men to respond to John Brown's Raid. They also interfered with the Federal Government's ability to police. These Militia's seem inarguably the parent of the KKK to me. The KKK also formed neighborhood watches and Militia's. The Ossian Sweet Case involving Clarance Darrow is a fine example of this.

The Black Panthers formed Militias to protect their communities from intimidation, drug dealers, and outside influences. These Militia's are the very reason Ronald Reagan signed a law forbidding armed groups from patrolling. Black militias with guns. . . *shivers*

This is what I'm talking about. In each case, these Militia's were law-abiding, armed, and operated with the consent of their communities. They also lead to arms-races between these two communities. But what's the difference? I'm not reading it wrong, I'm explaining why your argument is dangerous and inadequate. Under your plan/dream/idea, if the KKK wants to form a volunteer militia to protect your school, then technically there's no way for the government to tell them "no." They couldn't stop them from adopting highways, so how can they stop them from creating your armed citizen militias?
And more importantly, why would you or anyone want to stop them? I mean, I know why I would want to stop them, but I think this idea is silly.