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TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Viceroy63 wrote:It's a scam! Anything for the almighty Dollar.
http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... eness.html
A new scientific study published in The Lancet reveals that influenza vaccines only prevent influenza in 1.5 out of every 100 adults who are injected with the flu vaccine. Yet, predictably, this report is being touted by the quack science community, the vaccine-pushing CDC and the scientifically-inept mainstream media as proof that "flu vaccines are 60% effective!"
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033998_influ ... z2Hkr6YnV7
BTW: I was the 13th voter.
You should try reading that before proclaiming it from the heavens. He can't even keep his figures or data straight:The "treatment group" consisted of adults who were vaccinated with a trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine. Out of this group, according to the study, only 1.2% did not catch the flu.
So he's saying that 98.8% of the variable group caught the flu? That's, like, the most virulent strain of influenza, ever. Which is pretty amazing considering it's an inactivated culture. Scroll down a few lines and:First, you take the 2.73% in the control group who got the flu, and you divide that into the 1.18% in the treatment group who got the flu. This gives you 0.43.
Why the disparity? Because he's a twat.
Try boning up on cell-mediated immunity before accusing others of ignorance when you so readily display it yourself.
-TG
edit: oh god, this guy is terrible at stats:you are 400% more likely to be injured by the drug than helped by it! (Or 4 times more likely, which is the same thing stated differently.)
4x= 300% increase.
Symmetry wrote:It's almost as if we're talking about a virus.
Viceroy wrote:Read the article again. Sometime you pick up on things better when you read it twice.
First of all, if you get the shot, you get the flu. Period.
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
_sabotage_ wrote:In prison, they gave us the flu shot each year, i then watched as whole cellblocks got the flu. These were mainly healthy young men.
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:No influenza virus has 99% virulence.
Hilarious. He says 1.2% percent contracted the flu, then he later says that same 1.2% didn't. Which is it?
The article never stated what you are claiming above. The article was speaking of two groups and both groups had the flu.
only 1.2% did not catch the flu.
1.18% in the treatment group who got the flu.
#1_stunna wrote:People I know, who have the flu got a flu shot, and their spouses, who have not had the shot; do not have the flu.
saxitoxin wrote:Serbia is a RUDE DUDE
may not be a PRUDE, but he's gotta 'TUDE
might not be LEWD, but he's gonna get BOOED
RUDE
El Capitan X wrote:The people in flame wars just seem to get dimmer and dimmer. Seriously though, I love your style, always a good read.
Serbia wrote:Viruses don't kill people; people kill people.
Oh wait, wrong thread.
nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Did either of them get sick with the flu though? Or did they just get sick?
nietzsche wrote:Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Did either of them get sick with the flu though? Or did they just get sick?
Does it have to be the flu??
Sorry, I forger than getting sick is more often used for stomachache. She got the flu.
Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Did either of them get sick with the flu though? Or did they just get sick?
Does it have to be the flu??
Sorry, I forger than getting sick is more often used for stomachache. She got the flu.
It's kind of important if you're saying that that there's causation, and important info if they got a cold, say, but not the flu.
But hey, it's your story.
nietzsche wrote:Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Did either of them get sick with the flu though? Or did they just get sick?
Does it have to be the flu??
Sorry, I forger than getting sick is more often used for stomachache. She got the flu.
It's kind of important if you're saying that that there's causation, and important info if they got a cold, say, but not the flu.
But hey, it's your story.
I was kidding
Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:Symmetry wrote:nietzsche wrote:I've NEVER had a flu shot in my life.
I'm alive.
It's been 3 years that I haven't had the flu or a cold. I will not tell you what I do for this because if BBS, Tailgunner and others already think I'm a quack, they will now for sure now.
Couple of years ago my aunt was on vacation in phoenix or tucson i dont remember, she saw that they were applying the flu shot at walgreens and got one, got sick, next year her daughter that is an md send her flu shots and she got one and got sick. She's not your poster adult for a flu shot. This year she hasn't got the flu shot that I know. If she gets a flu shot this year i will not want to say im related to her anymore.
Did either of them get sick with the flu though? Or did they just get sick?
Does it have to be the flu??
Sorry, I forger than getting sick is more often used for stomachache. She got the flu.
It's kind of important if you're saying that that there's causation, and important info if they got a cold, say, but not the flu.
But hey, it's your story.
thegreekdog wrote:I've never had a flu shot. I did not get the flu until I became a father and I've gotten in the last two years. I will be getting a flu shot next year.
In fact, I have the flu right now.
If you read this post, you've contracted the flu... unless you've received a flu shot.
Bruceswar » Tue Aug 28, 2012 8:59 pm wrote:We all had tons of men..
kentington wrote:thegreekdog wrote:I've never had a flu shot. I did not get the flu until I became a father and I've gotten in the last two years. I will be getting a flu shot next year.
In fact, I have the flu right now.
If you read this post, you've contracted the flu... unless you've received a flu shot.
I don't get the flu shot. Never have.
I have been a father for six years and I may have gotten the flu once. It only lasted 24hours, so it may have been something else. A couple of times I thought I had the flu, turns out kidney stones can really mess you up.
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