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Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:50 am
by Funkyterrance
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Human shit is the worst.

I've had male cats that would put you to shame, my friend.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 12:52 am
by kentington
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
kentington wrote:
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Is a crayfish like a crawdad? Why would you pay money for that? Go find a creek and grab one.

-TG


Yeah they are the same thing. I had the same though. Why purchase half of these pets? Just grab a wolf or a fox and boom! Canine Companion.


I saw something on reddit a couple of days ago where a guy had a pet fox. I'll admit it was pretty damn cute. Apparently you can buy them for like 8 grand.

-TG


In America?
I think there are limited places. It is hard for me to relate. California doesn't allow you to keep ferrets or gerbils, let alone something like a fox.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 2:45 am
by muy_thaiguy
krusher wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Name: Niki (short for Nikita)
Description: Purebread Yorkie, but nicknamed "Teakettle" Yorkie, weighing about 10lbs but not obese or anything. About 2x the size (length and height) of a regular Yorkie overall. Will be 4 in April.
Misceleaneous: When she gets excited, she starts doing a "charge" all around the house. And aside from dinking water and tolerating baths, she avoids water. Going so far as to jump over a small puddle of water that would barely get her feet wet. Thinks everyone that comes around is there to see her (very friendly to people and animals).


never heard of teakettle yorkies. My yorkie totally hates baths but isin't afraid to get his paws wet in the lake to chase ducks. I heard their needyness come from the breed, they are toally dependent on their handlers and want us around all the time. When I leave him alone in the house he spends the entire time literally crying... and like you said super friendly always wants to greet people at the door and get his head rubbed.

Just a nickname for Yorkies that are larger than the "breed standard" of 7lbs and what not. But Niki has never had a problem being left alone. She goes into her kennel wih a milkbone, eats it, and sleeps for however long I'm gone. She's a very laid back dog. Though, when she gets really excited, she tends to pee, generally when seeing someone she hasn't seen for awhile or someone new.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:03 pm
by 2dimes
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:I saw something on reddit a couple of days ago where a guy had a pet fox. I'll admit it was pretty damn cute. Apparently you can buy them for like 8 grand.

-TG


I worked briefly in Norman Wells once. They warned us to keep your lunch locked in a building or something because of the artic foxes. They're about the size of a cat and super cute.

We were on lunch break eating in a building when a pick up truck stopped at the building beside us. He left his window open while he went in. I watched a fox jump through the window grab his lunch bag and jump back out then scamper off like it had just picked up it's bagged lunch. Which it had really, pretty funny to see.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:23 pm
by Lootifer
Funkyterrance wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Urgh. Anyone who is proud of their dog being a fighting machine is, er, not someone I think should own a dog...

Well, EXCUUUUUSEEE MEEEEEE.
She got ganged up on and wasted them, what's your problem man? I don't allow her to attack people

Yeh but for every 10 dog owners like yourself theres 1 idiot who owns a similar dog but is less responsible in their ownership, and for every 10 of those idiots some small kid somewhere gets their face ripped off by a violent dog. Thats how I view the situation.

So while you and your dog are not in anyway directly responsible for any harm, you are contributing to the social acceptance of violent dogs (even if your influence in the scheme of things is tiny). I think violent animals should be highly discouraged at every turn.

Yes its a case of a few bad eggs ruining it for everyone, but too bad. Childrens wellbeing > freedom of choice.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Thu Jan 31, 2013 6:35 pm
by DoomYoshi
Funky's dog attacked me. Now I look like AoG :(

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:44 am
by Funkyterrance
Lootifer wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:
Lootifer wrote:Urgh. Anyone who is proud of their dog being a fighting machine is, er, not someone I think should own a dog...

Well, EXCUUUUUSEEE MEEEEEE.
She got ganged up on and wasted them, what's your problem man? I don't allow her to attack people

Yeh but for every 10 dog owners like yourself theres 1 idiot who owns a similar dog but is less responsible in their ownership, and for every 10 of those idiots some small kid somewhere gets their face ripped off by a violent dog. Thats how I view the situation.

So while you and your dog are not in anyway directly responsible for any harm, you are contributing to the social acceptance of violent dogs (even if your influence in the scheme of things is tiny). I think violent animals should be highly discouraged at every turn.

Yes its a case of a few bad eggs ruining it for everyone, but too bad. Childrens wellbeing > freedom of choice.

My number one rule about dogs is that they show zero aggression towards children so I can understand your concern. I've actually gotten into arguments in real life concerning this issue when people say "well, you should leave a dog alone when it's eating, blah blah blah". I don't think a dog should EVER growl at a kid.
When I say she is a killing machine, that's just a matter of fact really. She's all muscle and both breeds of which she is mixed are relentless fighters. It did make me proud when she wasted that group of dogs because I admire her strength/bravery and I suppose it appealed to my personal twisted sense of justice. ;)

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 5:57 am
by KoolBak
I had a similar situation at a neighborhood dog park.....long story short, I conclude the majority of the people that hang at these parks are fucking idiots. I sacrificed my body to save MY dog from killing about 12 others that attacked HIM when we were playing ball (I guess he didnt fit in to their established clique....much like me ;o). He bloodied a few of them before I picked him up, myself being bitten and attacked by the swirling mass of "nice" dogs, and ran him to my truck. He did manage to sneak a few more bites from my arms, but I swear to god, every one of those fucking mutts would have been DEAD and I am sure I'd have had a bloody mess of an ALIVE doberman on my hands too.

Every one of thos dog owners simply stood there, mouths agape, watching this go down. EVERY fucking one.....UNbelievable. Went back and had a cathartic screaming fit at those dumbasses for 5 minutes or so....very cleansing....made quite an impression with my (favorite) torn, bloody jeans and tripled blood pressure....lol..I think CC dice were bad that morning..... Anyhow, no more dog parks for me; he can play with my friends dogs from now on ;o(

Oh yeah....my dobies have all LOVED kids....wonderful dogs if they are raised properly ;o)

My son has a 4 foot Ball Python; I had an 8 foot Boa for many years....any other reptile owners here?

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:01 am
by Funkyterrance
DoomYoshi wrote:Funky's dog attacked me. Now I look like AoG :(

You have no idea how sorry I am yoshi. :(

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:15 am
by Funkyterrance
KoolBak wrote:Every one of thos dog owners simply stood there, mouths agape, watching this go down. EVERY fucking one.....UNbelievable. Went back and had a cathartic screaming fit at those dumbasses for 5 minutes or so....very cleansing....made quite an impression with my (favorite) torn, bloody jeans and tripled blood pressure....lol..I think CC dice were bad that morning..... Anyhow, no more dog parks for me; he can play with my friends dogs from now on ;o(

It is a little unfair how the "nice" breeds as you put it are allowed to get away with bloody murder while if my dog so much as curls it's lips at another dog people go white as a sheet. If you take temperament into consideration my dog is a million times less likely to start a brawl. I suppose I've just learned to accept it as a cost to owning a more powerful breed/mix (she's a mutt I'll admit).
I've never taken my dog to a dog park as they don't exist around here lol but I can imagine that the regulars there(dogs) would tend to form little "packs" and might gang up on a newbie.
One thing that's interesting though is I have brought my dog over to my parents house a number of times and they have a very ordinary looking and acting black lab female. One day the two of them got into it over who knows what and while my dog probably would have come out ahead in the long run it wasn't because my parent's dog was giving up. Suzie(my dog) had her by the neck but I could just tell by the few moments that went by before I broke it up that my parents dog was in it for the long run. It just goes to show that those "nice" breeds have it in them too.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:09 am
by KoolBak
Yeah, there was a golden, a couple little pocket dogs and a lab in on this. All started by a Boxer that had to be alpha.....stupid. My dog (not fixed, doberman brain) will NOT be beta....as long as no one tries to pull rank on him (or f*ck with his "people"), he's a silly, happy, goofy puppy.

And oh boy, when the Jehovah Witnesses come to the door, I get him wound going "WHO' S THAT?!?!" and acting all worried.....he FREAKS....hold his collar and open the door and announce He's coming outside to potty in 30 seconds...I'd be gone if I were you.....

:lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:04 pm
by 2dimes
You sure are proud of his nipples.

Staffordshire Terrier Funky, when people ask you can say, "She's a Terrier... Staffordshire Terrier."

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 12:41 pm
by KoolBak
Next time you're here, Dimey.....you go 'head and make fun of him....he dunna like being laughed at :lol:

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:15 pm
by krusher
I can't relate to any of you as I never had any of those breeds. But my opinion is that large and (potentialy) agressive dogs should be discouraged especially in a urban areas. I can see you having one in some type of rural farm house but in the city its just not appropriate not for you or for them. urban houses tend to have less space and more people this increases the potential for hostility as dogs are territorial after all. No matter how docile you think your pit or doberman is they have the potential to tear a kid to shreds in a couple of seconds or as you guys mentioned kill smaller dogs even if its in self defense. I don't think thats a good thing, dogs of today are are meant to be companion and there are dozens of better breeds that make for a better companion. Doberman and Pits are really good at what they do and that is fighting and serving as guard dogs. The agression is in their breed and it can come out for the most unexpected things that you might not notice and at that point it can be too late. So like I stated i see no merit for keeping them as pets especially in a urban environment. in my county pitts are banned and for good reason, not only are most of them used for fighting, pit attacks against humans used to be high.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:36 pm
by 2dimes
I don't know krusher. My uncle's doberman was goofier than koolbak's. I suppose there's a chance of a dog snapping or something but the thing is you allways hear about a bad dog. Then when you hear about Funky's dog being well trained you don't even believe him. The reason a dog turns bad is allmost always a bad owner.

I have a hard time being against some of the pitbull bans because there are so many idiots that get them and train them to be mean. Unfourtunately not enough of them have the dog turn on them.

Did you see the video creeper's wiener posted with that lady who let her dog go crazy and bite a guy at the dog park almost in the nuts? I guess it's less dangerous but any breed can be a bad dog. I've seen more aggresive small dogs because people laugh and say, "Oh he's just little." yeah, a little jerk.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:53 pm
by KoolBak
Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:00 pm
by krusher
2dimes wrote:I don't know krusher. My uncle's doberman was goofier than koolbak's. I suppose there's a chance of a dog snapping or something but the thing is you allways hear about a bad dog. Then when you hear about Funky's dog being well trained you don't even believe him. The reason a dog turns bad is allmost always a bad owner.

I have a hard time being against some of the pitbull bans because there are so many idiots that get them and train them to be mean. Unfourtunately not enough of them have the dog turn on them.

Did you see the video creeper's wiener posted with that lady who let her dog go crazy and bite a guy at the dog park almost in the nuts? I guess it's less dangerous but any breed can be a bad dog. I've seen more aggresive small dogs because people laugh and say, "Oh he's just little." yeah, a little jerk.


I would say smaller dogs are more aggressive perhaps because of some type of confidence issue? I like to compare them to short people especially short man they tend to over compensate for their heights by you know being more agressive. If you ever been to a bar or club you know the biggest arrogant pricks are short man. It just seems they have too much hormones for their short body making them have a temper and always think they gotta fight or pick a fight to proof something. I know this is off topic but i think that the same can be said for small dogs as well, especially when they are around a bigger dog they tend to immidietly bark in a attempt to intimidate them so they wont get messed with. My dog is guilty of barking at pretty much any animal that he sees, he is not a jerk though he loves people and is super friendly, and even if he was to snap one day and attack you or a child there is no chance that he can do any real damage, since he is the size of a large rabbit. I think that animals should never posse a legitimate threat to humans and if they do they def shouldn't be in a populated place.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:04 pm
by BigBallinStalin
KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:12 pm
by krusher
KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


I am just stating my opinion...this is not an attack on you or your doberman. HOWEVER you can't deny he has the potential to do some decent damage on a human and kill a child easily. I'd say any breed is capable of barking and alarming you of a potential threat so this is not unique to doberman, my yorkie does this just fine. As far as backing up that warning goes... seriously if you think a criminal set on possing a real threat to you is going to stop because of a any dog, you are wrong. This is the 21st century get a home security set up for your house, this is a lot more effective than a dog. With proper training any dog will be effectionate, obedient and loyal. You can google doberman/pit attacks and you will find cases to support it. It is really an issue of what does your dog do better than any other dog breed which is attack... As an owner you should know you are legally liable for any damages caused by your dog. I would not want to be respomssible for a living thing with its own habits that i may not fully understand with the capacity to kill something or someone.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:13 pm
by 2dimes
I don't know if I would have ran too quick into that dog fight or stood back mouth opened waiting for koolbak to come back and tell me I should have.
Wonder if there was there a noticable odour when he went back?

It's difficult to not be afraid of dogs if you're not around them enough and/or you don't know the dog. There's a german shepard across the alley from my parents. Da poleece came by early one morning, called out to a domestic dispute. The nice officer lady opened the gate and then instead of going back out of the yard shot half the poor thing's nose off.
Dog was ok, sort of but... maybe think of looking into the yard before you open a gate?

There was a pair of labs down the street here. Those are one of the easiest going breeds, everyone know that but they got out of the yard and rushed my kids one morning. Changed their mind when I yelled "No!" at them for it but I don't know how that might have went if I wasn't there. They're bigguns and my kids for some reason got all timid.

Both of my examples are probably nice enough dogs but one was protecting it's yard from moran cops and the other two were being a gang.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:16 pm
by 2dimes
BigBallinStalin wrote:Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?

I don't know if that is true or not. I know it kind of seems that way but I've met so many really pleasant pitbulls.

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:23 pm
by Funkyterrance
BigBallinStalin wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?

We used to have a Dobie and while they are intimidating they they really aren't what I would consider "agressive" and are actually pretty meak which is a great combination. Neither are any of the Pitbulls, eh Staffordshire Terriers naturally aggressive that I've known. To me aggressive implies more likelihood to attack/escalate but I can't say I've seen that as a breed trait in Pitbulls and I've fostered a few. What they are is unrelenting and powerful once committed which can of course be a problem if you don't have control over your dog.
One breed that I can say has aggresive tendencies from my experience is the Shar-Pei(wrinkle dog). My girl is half Shar-Pei and we had real issues with her as a pup as she was shortly owned by a clueless person before I owned her. I've known other Shar-Peis in the past and they had this trait as well. So basically I have had lots of experience with dogs and while some breeds have of course been bred towards protection and are more likely to bite/attack as breed I'm not sure that Pit Bulls qualify in general. If you raise a golden retriever or black lab to be aggressive it will be just as nasty as a Pit Bull, just less likely to actually kill someone/something due to it's "equipment".

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:33 pm
by KoolBak
Be jeebus Krusher......

You're saying a potential intruder would NOT be dissuaded by my dog barking on the other side of the door? And the signage proclaiming that this is a well armed household? Maybe things are different in Florida.

And please don't preach to me about legalities manchild......I have more goddamned experience in a court room than any man my age should.

Go back to arguing with your twenty-something peers if you want to impress someone 8-) I am tired of fun threads being turned into fooking arguments ;o(

Re: Your Pets

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:34 pm
by AAFitz
Coco: short for Chocobo from Final Fantasy.
Magoo: she started off having an eyesight problem, she pecked exactly 1/4 inch to the side of the target. She would just keep pecking things and moving them over. It was morbidly funny to watch.
Moxie. Wife liked the name.

This is Tommy, aka Tomasina. Found it at a jobsite one night, brought it home, and ended up keeping her.


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She turned into this little flock:
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She is the leader of the flock, because she is oldest, and takes no shit, but is also the friendliest to people, because we spent so much time with her as a semi-chick.

This is one of the new recruits we got this summer. Their main purpose was to shut up the second chicken we got Coco, short for Chocobo(as in Final Fantasy), who bawked insanely loud, when tommy was out of sight. It worked too.

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And here is the little chicken, that we werent sure was a chicken when I found her. We werent positive it was a chicken, or a turkey(which were nesting nearby) or a rooster, which would have meant giving her up for adoption.

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For scale, those bricks are exactly 6" x 6" x 2"

This little bird(Tommy) was bought by a neighbor, and the husband said f*ck no, so they just threw them outside to fend for themselves, which is impossible at that age, and probably any age. This is the last of whatever size flock they threw away. When we had it, you could hear the gravel grinding in her empty stomach. Id be surprised if she would have lasted another day.

She has given us no less than 3 scares of almost dying since, but pulls through with some TLC each time. Its a spanish chicken which isnt ideally suited for the NEast.

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We also have one cat. Our other Died just last month.

PostPosted: Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:39 pm
by 2dimes
Nice chickens AA are you just interbreeding them?

Is it possibly you've only had Terriers with a good pedigree? I know our first border collie was supposedly purebreed (even though I don't think they are a registered breed) must have had some whippet in her or something. Pointy nose like santa's little helper.

Our new one is a rescue mutt which is too bad because I would get another of whatever he is in a second. Most of their personalities are from the way we handled them. Part of the issue with the first one was she was dropped by her mother in a nasty snow storm when the farmer found them there was just her and a brother left alive, the brother died over night. She was deaf and even to the end we wondered if she was or not because she was so smart. But they are very different some of that must come down to genetics, I think.