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Re: Your Pets

Postby KoolBak on Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:53 pm

Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.
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Postby krusher on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:00 pm

2dimes wrote:I don't know krusher. My uncle's doberman was goofier than koolbak's. I suppose there's a chance of a dog snapping or something but the thing is you allways hear about a bad dog. Then when you hear about Funky's dog being well trained you don't even believe him. The reason a dog turns bad is allmost always a bad owner.

I have a hard time being against some of the pitbull bans because there are so many idiots that get them and train them to be mean. Unfourtunately not enough of them have the dog turn on them.

Did you see the video creeper's wiener posted with that lady who let her dog go crazy and bite a guy at the dog park almost in the nuts? I guess it's less dangerous but any breed can be a bad dog. I've seen more aggresive small dogs because people laugh and say, "Oh he's just little." yeah, a little jerk.


I would say smaller dogs are more aggressive perhaps because of some type of confidence issue? I like to compare them to short people especially short man they tend to over compensate for their heights by you know being more agressive. If you ever been to a bar or club you know the biggest arrogant pricks are short man. It just seems they have too much hormones for their short body making them have a temper and always think they gotta fight or pick a fight to proof something. I know this is off topic but i think that the same can be said for small dogs as well, especially when they are around a bigger dog they tend to immidietly bark in a attempt to intimidate them so they wont get messed with. My dog is guilty of barking at pretty much any animal that he sees, he is not a jerk though he loves people and is super friendly, and even if he was to snap one day and attack you or a child there is no chance that he can do any real damage, since he is the size of a large rabbit. I think that animals should never posse a legitimate threat to humans and if they do they def shouldn't be in a populated place.
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Re: Your Pets

Postby BigBallinStalin on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:04 pm

KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?
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Re: Your Pets

Postby krusher on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:12 pm

KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


I am just stating my opinion...this is not an attack on you or your doberman. HOWEVER you can't deny he has the potential to do some decent damage on a human and kill a child easily. I'd say any breed is capable of barking and alarming you of a potential threat so this is not unique to doberman, my yorkie does this just fine. As far as backing up that warning goes... seriously if you think a criminal set on possing a real threat to you is going to stop because of a any dog, you are wrong. This is the 21st century get a home security set up for your house, this is a lot more effective than a dog. With proper training any dog will be effectionate, obedient and loyal. You can google doberman/pit attacks and you will find cases to support it. It is really an issue of what does your dog do better than any other dog breed which is attack... As an owner you should know you are legally liable for any damages caused by your dog. I would not want to be respomssible for a living thing with its own habits that i may not fully understand with the capacity to kill something or someone.
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:13 pm

I don't know if I would have ran too quick into that dog fight or stood back mouth opened waiting for koolbak to come back and tell me I should have.
Wonder if there was there a noticable odour when he went back?

It's difficult to not be afraid of dogs if you're not around them enough and/or you don't know the dog. There's a german shepard across the alley from my parents. Da poleece came by early one morning, called out to a domestic dispute. The nice officer lady opened the gate and then instead of going back out of the yard shot half the poor thing's nose off.
Dog was ok, sort of but... maybe think of looking into the yard before you open a gate?

There was a pair of labs down the street here. Those are one of the easiest going breeds, everyone know that but they got out of the yard and rushed my kids one morning. Changed their mind when I yelled "No!" at them for it but I don't know how that might have went if I wasn't there. They're bigguns and my kids for some reason got all timid.

Both of my examples are probably nice enough dogs but one was protecting it's yard from moran cops and the other two were being a gang.
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:16 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?

I don't know if that is true or not. I know it kind of seems that way but I've met so many really pleasant pitbulls.
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Re: Your Pets

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:23 pm

BigBallinStalin wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Dont preach about what you are unedumucated on Krusher.

Dobies, PROPERLY RAISED, are one of the best family dogs you can have. From the AKC website:

The Doberman Pinscher is known to be energetic, watchful, fearless and obedient. He is ready to give prompt alarm (and back up that warning) but is also affectionate, obedient and loyal. The breed requires regular exercise, but needs only minimal grooming for his short coat.

We've had them for close to 30 years......your assumptions ain't gonna hold water in any RESPONSIBLE scenario. ANY dog can be a danger if raised improperly.


Can't a particular line of pitbulls be bred so that they are genetically more disposed toward fighting and being aggressive?

Since I answer "yes," then for some particularly cultivated/bred dogs---not the entire species, but a particular family line--would be aggressive, no matter how well they are trained. Don't you agree?

We used to have a Dobie and while they are intimidating they they really aren't what I would consider "agressive" and are actually pretty meak which is a great combination. Neither are any of the Pitbulls, eh Staffordshire Terriers naturally aggressive that I've known. To me aggressive implies more likelihood to attack/escalate but I can't say I've seen that as a breed trait in Pitbulls and I've fostered a few. What they are is unrelenting and powerful once committed which can of course be a problem if you don't have control over your dog.
One breed that I can say has aggresive tendencies from my experience is the Shar-Pei(wrinkle dog). My girl is half Shar-Pei and we had real issues with her as a pup as she was shortly owned by a clueless person before I owned her. I've known other Shar-Peis in the past and they had this trait as well. So basically I have had lots of experience with dogs and while some breeds have of course been bred towards protection and are more likely to bite/attack as breed I'm not sure that Pit Bulls qualify in general. If you raise a golden retriever or black lab to be aggressive it will be just as nasty as a Pit Bull, just less likely to actually kill someone/something due to it's "equipment".
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Re: Your Pets

Postby KoolBak on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:33 pm

Be jeebus Krusher......

You're saying a potential intruder would NOT be dissuaded by my dog barking on the other side of the door? And the signage proclaiming that this is a well armed household? Maybe things are different in Florida.

And please don't preach to me about legalities manchild......I have more goddamned experience in a court room than any man my age should.

Go back to arguing with your twenty-something peers if you want to impress someone 8-) I am tired of fun threads being turned into fooking arguments ;o(
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Re: Your Pets

Postby AAFitz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:34 pm

Coco: short for Chocobo from Final Fantasy.
Magoo: she started off having an eyesight problem, she pecked exactly 1/4 inch to the side of the target. She would just keep pecking things and moving them over. It was morbidly funny to watch.
Moxie. Wife liked the name.

This is Tommy, aka Tomasina. Found it at a jobsite one night, brought it home, and ended up keeping her.


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She turned into this little flock:
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She is the leader of the flock, because she is oldest, and takes no shit, but is also the friendliest to people, because we spent so much time with her as a semi-chick.

This is one of the new recruits we got this summer. Their main purpose was to shut up the second chicken we got Coco, short for Chocobo(as in Final Fantasy), who bawked insanely loud, when tommy was out of sight. It worked too.

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And here is the little chicken, that we werent sure was a chicken when I found her. We werent positive it was a chicken, or a turkey(which were nesting nearby) or a rooster, which would have meant giving her up for adoption.

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For scale, those bricks are exactly 6" x 6" x 2"

This little bird(Tommy) was bought by a neighbor, and the husband said f*ck no, so they just threw them outside to fend for themselves, which is impossible at that age, and probably any age. This is the last of whatever size flock they threw away. When we had it, you could hear the gravel grinding in her empty stomach. Id be surprised if she would have lasted another day.

She has given us no less than 3 scares of almost dying since, but pulls through with some TLC each time. Its a spanish chicken which isnt ideally suited for the NEast.

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We also have one cat. Our other Died just last month.
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:39 pm

Nice chickens AA are you just interbreeding them?

Is it possibly you've only had Terriers with a good pedigree? I know our first border collie was supposedly purebreed (even though I don't think they are a registered breed) must have had some whippet in her or something. Pointy nose like santa's little helper.

Our new one is a rescue mutt which is too bad because I would get another of whatever he is in a second. Most of their personalities are from the way we handled them. Part of the issue with the first one was she was dropped by her mother in a nasty snow storm when the farmer found them there was just her and a brother left alive, the brother died over night. She was deaf and even to the end we wondered if she was or not because she was so smart. But they are very different some of that must come down to genetics, I think.
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Postby AAFitz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:48 pm

2dimes wrote:Nice chickens AA are you just interbreeding them?


Nope, no roosters. Just four hens. They are more fun than you would guess for silly little birds, and have more personality, than Id have ever guessed. I had two of them sleeping on my leg about an hour ago, but only Tommy really likes being picked up.
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Postby 2dimes on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:50 pm

She laid 3 fertilized eggs, or did you buy the other ones? Are you eating fresh eggs?

Ok, I read the edited version. You keep finding them, strange I have only really ever found one beside the poultry plant. Didn't take it home.
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Re: Your Pets

Postby Funkyterrance on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:51 pm

AAFitz wrote:This is Tommy, aka Tomasina. Found it at a jobsite one night, brought it home, and ended up keeping her.


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She turned into this little flock:
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More to come...

We've got 6 or 8 chickens at my place and I'm pretty much addicted to fresh eggs. Chickens are easy keepers, useful and basically awesome! We've got a light in their coop so they keep on laying right through the winter.
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Postby AAFitz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:56 pm

2dimes wrote:She laid 3 fertilized eggs, or did you buy the other ones? Are you eating fresh eggs?

Ok, I read the edited version. You keep finding them, strange I have only really ever found one beside the poultry plant. Didn't take it home.


No no, we bought the other three as starter pullets, from an Agway type place. I used to eat the eggs but Im semi-vegetarian now, so I dont eat them anymore. One of my neighbor asks me for them all the time though. But I end up throwing away more than get eaten.
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Re: Your Pets

Postby AAFitz on Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:58 pm

KoolBak wrote:Name: Brabus

Fave Snack: Yorkies

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Actually little dogs like to play with him....race around his big lumbering ass like hornets around a schoolbus :lol:

Goofy 110 lb furcoated razorblade....unless you're trying to break in the house / car, or mess with my kids, the nicest, happiest, lickingest dog in the world....11 years old and acts like 2.

Also likes Canookx (gave Dimey a thorough licking and now has a taste for Great White Hosers)

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