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Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:58 am**

I'm sad to hear of either the death or status of "Washed up" applied to Harold Ramus and Burt Ward.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:59 am**

kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.

Honestly dude, if you're pondering watching a Tarantino film, you shouldn't have a problem with nudity. There isn't any nudity to my knowledge in any of his movies, but your values might be skewed if you'd rather watch gratuitous violence and black humor than a female nipple.

That being said, Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs are best, in that order imo but opinions differ. Jackie Brown is good but a little slower.

Kill Bill 1 & 2 and Inglorious Basterds are good for one watch imo.

-TG

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:51 am**

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Honestly dude, if you're pondering watching a Tarantino film, you shouldn't have a problem with nudity. There isn't any nudity to my knowledge in any of his movies, but your values might be skewed if you'd rather watch gratuitous violence and black humor than a female nipple.

Aren't you jumping the gun though? Present company tends to have an affect on what one watches. Just because he's pondering watching black humor over nudity doesn't necessarily mean his value system is skewed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 2:57 am**

Violence is much worse than any nudity. Don't care who you are. If you have reservations about portrayals of acts or ideas in movies, then shooting people or ass-raping them (Zed and Maynard) is a hell of a lot worse than a titty or external genitalia shot.

Why I have a problem with American t.v. I find it ridiculously absurd that FCC censors skin (mind you, only areas that make up about 3% of total skin area) or even sexual acts but some guy getting blasted in the face with a gun? Cool.

-TG

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:37 am**

Agrred TG, and it started a long time ago now.

I wonder if bewbs would be as big a deal if they were not suppressed though?

I remember seeing Pulp Fiction in the theater on opening night. Quinten had not become mainstream yet. When Vincent's gun accidently went off I laughed with some of the other people watching, then paused and thought about how jaded we were.

A guy just got splattered and we were laughing.

I suspect if it came out today the theater would be full and nearly everyone would laugh.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:07 pm**

lmao....and here I thot Canooks were invariably polite / nice :lol:

I also went on opening night; I remember that was the one scene I've ever seen in a theater that literally made me jump out of my seat - surprised the HELL outta me....I recall gasping at the audacity and laughing at the actors' responses to the incident.....that was a shocker.....

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:19 pm**

Don't worry FunkyT. The unwashed masses worship Tarantino because he is the new Opium. Us Ivory Tower folk can go on living in peace.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 1:23 pm**

KoolBak wrote:lmao....and here I thot Canooks were invariably polite / nice

We/they used to be. It's too bad really to see it go away. Maybe it's because our city is too big but I think it's media. Everyone wants to be gangsters and bronies or what ever.

I watched Braveheart once with two guys I was working with. One of them cringed and turned away closing his eyes when the guy rode a horse in and hit someone with a mace. It was nice to see someone that was not desensitized to violent images.

Just think if no one could stomach being a jerk. "No, no, I insist, after you." "Why thank you, kind sir. Have a terrific day." Now days it catches me off guard when people are polite / nice.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:42 pm**

2dimes wrote:Just think if no one could stomach being a jerk. "No, no, I insist, after you." "Why thank you, kind sir. Have a terrific day." Now days it catches me off guard when people are polite / nice.

They should start a theme park where it's just ordinary things (stores, restaurants, professionals, etc..) but everyone is really polite and considerate. I might make a weekly tradition out of it if it existed.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 3:48 pm**

We have been to a few places where I noticed people saying excuse me in stores and that sort of thing. Made me miss when our city was like that.

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:15 pm**

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:Violence is much worse than any nudity. Don't care who you are. If you have reservations about portrayals of acts or ideas in movies, then shooting people or ass-raping them (Zed and Maynard) is a hell of a lot worse than a titty or external genitalia shot.

Why I have a problem with American t.v. I find it ridiculously absurd that FCC censors skin (mind you, only areas that make up about 3% of total skin area) or even sexual acts but some guy getting blasted in the face with a gun? Cool.

-TG

The worst is when they censor someone flipping off the camera. Everyone knows what the f*ck the person is doing, why bother censoring it?

Posted: **Tue Feb 19, 2013 10:47 pm**

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
kentington wrote:I don't think I have seen any of the movies mentioned. I may need to exit my bubble for a bit.
Are any of them clean? By that I mean no nudity?
Language doesn't bother, although I love the way French sounds.

Honestly dude, if you're pondering watching a Tarantino film, you shouldn't have a problem with nudity. There isn't any nudity to my knowledge in any of his movies, but your values might be skewed if you'd rather watch gratuitous violence and black humor than a female nipple.

That being said, Pulp Fiction and Resevoir Dogs are best, in that order imo but opinions differ. Jackie Brown is good but a little slower.

Kill Bill 1 & 2 and Inglorious Basterds are good for one watch imo.

-TG

Honestly, I don't enjoy overly violent movies. Some violence is okay. Fights and whatnot, some gunning but not like slicing necks and blowing someones face off or anything.
The reason I didn't think to ask about violence is because usually when people recommend a movie they tell you to watch out for the violence if it has a lot. One thing people don't warn about in my experience is sexuality.
But sexual violence is the worst. Even if it doesn't show any nudity. I can't stand anybody getting raped or anything.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 4:58 am**

kent wrote:I can't stand anybody getting raped or anything.

Don't watch Pulp Fiction.

Resevoir Dogs might be okay, but there is one scene in particular that you might not enjoy. However, it is the best scene in the movie.

-TG

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 5:42 am**

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
kent wrote:I can't stand anybody getting raped or anything.

Don't watch Pulp Fiction.

Resevoir Dogs might be okay, but there is one scene in particular that you might not enjoy. However, it is the best scene in the movie.

-TG

Yeah a lot of his stuff is gratuitously "shocking" and oh so very "90's". I honestly think he read too many comic books growing up(and beyond) and its permanently affected his mind to the point where he can't seem to outgrow these tendencies.
I know it sounds like I'm being really hard on Tarantino but I do think he has good qualities, he just keeps trying to overextend his reach.

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 8:55 am**

2dimes wrote:We have been to a few places where I noticed people saying excuse me in stores and that sort of thing. Made me miss when our city was like that.

Wow....my town is more canadian than yours! :lol:

Back to movie shit.......Canadian Bacon is one of my all time fun movies...LOVE the way they portray you hosers :lol:

10 minute clip, but funny as hell

Posted: **Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:04 am**

I could never get through it. Maybe I'll give it another run. Steve Wright is pretty awesome.

I would explain the aboot thing but you probably wouldn't believe me.

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 4:05 pm**

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
kent wrote:I can't stand anybody getting raped or anything.

Don't watch Pulp Fiction.

Resevoir Dogs might be okay, but there is one scene in particular that you might not enjoy. However, it is the best scene in the movie.

-TG

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:59 pm**

I don't think Violence is the theme on Tarantino's movies, I think it's Great Dialogue.

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 8:11 pm**

nietzsche wrote:I don't think Violence is the theme on Tarantino's movies, I think it's Great Dialogue.

Do you mean that as in: "the great conversation about the great ideas" that is the Western canon?

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2013 10:09 pm**

Imho Tarantino dialogue is like this: He's trying to figure out what would be the absolute coolest thing someone might say at that precise moment but the problem is he personally is the antithesis of cool so he has no possible chance of getting it right. I suppose it appeals to other people who are socially awkward and arguably it's a successful method since a good deal of people fall into this category but it's just not stuff you would ever want to regard as authentic in any way.
Overall effect of this combination of awkwardness and worship of larger than life personae(mostly borrowed from comic books) is cheesy/corny/embarrassing to watch dialogue. No.1 rule of writing: Stick with what you know from real life, else you come off as a jock-sniffer.

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:45 pm**

Funky, I know you don't understand "funny", so why would I put it past you to understand Tarantino dialogue?

Posted: **Fri Feb 22, 2013 11:53 pm**

Army of GOD wrote:Funky, I know you don't understand "funny", so why would I put it past you to understand Tarantino dialogue?

My statement was not specifically directed at "funny" dialogue, aog. It was in reference to the dialogue in general, which in my opinion is lacking. Does dialogue include "funny" dialogue? I suppose so, but this just equates to the "funny" dialogue being poor as well. It's not a matter of understanding it, it's a matter of taste and I find the flavor decidedly obvious to the point of embarrassing.
Speaking of your proposed authority on what's funny, why do you cling so heavily to humor as your defining characteristic, aog? Jokes are fine but when you attach too much of your identity to such a subjective trait it's bound to disappoint since as much as you would like think that your idea of funny holds more weight than that of someone else, it's simply not true. I mean, you're challenging my qualifications for funny as though these sorts of things were set in stone. Do you realize how irrational and petty that sounds?

Posted: **Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:03 am**

0/10

obvious troll is obvious

Posted: **Sat Feb 23, 2013 12:59 am**

Army of GOD wrote:0/10

obvious troll is obvious

Was it the Jock-Sniffer comment that set you off aog?

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