Metsfanmax wrote: Yet the current law mandates that the private financial institutions must report "suspicious" activity, which is not in line with our intuitive understanding of how the government should be obtaining information about you. Instead of trying to fight which agency of the government has access to this information, we should fight the law that makes the financial industry become the government's stool pigeon.
That started with TARP, don't ya know? There are provisions in the TARP bill that effectively deputized financial institutions. The institutions have little choice, if they don't comply then their assets are subject to seizure by the government.
The unfortunate problem you have, Mets, is that everything is now in place. That ship has sailed and it can't be changed through the two party system, relying on either Dems or Reps. They are the ones who put all this in place after all. All that is needed now is the catalyst. Then you'll see how cowtowing and giving the government even an inch becomes a serious problem to your liberty. Could be a natural disaster, a terrorist attack, civil unrest, collapsing economy, collapsing currency, war or any number of things and what we once took for granted as Constitutional protections, common courtesy, privacy, fairness and even due process all are things of the past.
And still there will be people who are- "Well, we gotta do it..."
Normalcy bias, it's a hell of thing. Can't imagine the Black Swans and thus never see 'em coming. Even though it's all right there in front of your eyes but just refused to see.
It used to be, pre Patriot Act, if the cops suspected you of something and they wanted a look at your finances, they'd have to get a court order first. They'd take that court order to your financial institution. Your financial institution would tell them- "We'll comply with your order in <X amount of hours/days> and then immediately contact you. Your financial institution would inform you of the court order and when they will have to comply with said order, giving you time to get a lawyer and even attempt to stop the order from being executed.
Today, law enforcement doesn't even have to bother with any of that. They contact your financial institution and by law the institution must grant immediate access and are barred from contacting you. If the government finds something, then
they get the court order. If they find nothing, then nothing happens and the financial institution is barred, by law, from informing you that it even happened. Sneak and Peek as it's affectionately termed.
Fight these laws? There were many who were telling everyone of the consequences of these laws before they were even enacted, and yet the laws were enacted.
Collectivism, destroying individual liberty and freedom in the name of the "Greater Good" since be beginning of human society. After all, these laws were enacted so that we could stop terrorists from acting and "protect us all". That's how it was sold and we bought it hook, line and sinker.
If you were to want to fight these laws, Mets, then that would mean that you are for the terrorists. Are you pro-terrorist Mets?*
*It's ridiculous, of course, but that's the line used against those who spoke out against types of laws from the get go, and other ways of discrediting the objections, and all those tactics worked. Obviously.