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Symmetry wrote:I'm sort of glad that you're coming around to the "they should choose" argument too dude.
saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:I'm sort of glad that you're coming around to the "they should choose" argument too dude.
Anyone can choose anything they want. I could choose to go move into the garage of my neighbor. That doesn't mean he's not entitled to kick me out when he finds me there.
Symmetry wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:I'm sort of glad that you're coming around to the "they should choose" argument too dude.
Anyone can choose anything they want. I could choose to go move into the garage of my neighbor. That doesn't mean he's not entitled to kick me out when he finds me there.
That's pretty weak Saxi.
saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Symmetry wrote:I'm sort of glad that you're coming around to the "they should choose" argument too dude.
Anyone can choose anything they want. I could choose to go move into the garage of my neighbor. That doesn't mean he's not entitled to kick me out when he finds me there.
That's pretty weak Saxi.
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saxitoxin wrote:Example -
United Kingdom to France: We would like to build an underwater tunnel crossing La Manche to connect Britain and France.
France to United Kingdom: The UK Prime Minister will have to negotiate all that with Jacques, the intern over at the Calais town road department. Young Jacques has no authority to make any decision one way or the other, however. But that's the guy we want you to speak with - and you must send your PM - and at least 2 viscounts and 5 earls - to talk to him. Good luck!
BigBallinStalin wrote:saxitoxin wrote:Example -
United Kingdom to France: We would like to build an underwater tunnel crossing La Manche to connect Britain and France.
France to United Kingdom: The UK Prime Minister will have to negotiate all that with Jacques, the intern over at the Calais town road department. Young Jacques has no authority to make any decision one way or the other, however. But that's the guy we want you to speak with - and you must send your PM - and at least 2 viscounts and 5 earls - to talk to him. Good luck!
Do the Falkland Islanders/kelpers have any discretion over the issue of ceding British territory to Argentina?
If not, then why insist that Argentina must negotiate with them or include them in the negotiations?
BigBallinStalin wrote:If the UK actually wanted the Falkanders to become part of the negotiation, then why not grant that political entity its own Full sovereignty?
If national security (e.g. ARG invades) is an issue, then the two sovereign nations can sign a military alliance, thus giving UK casus belli if ARG invades.
Then, the Falklanders would have the discretion to resolve this issue. But that doesn't happen. Why? Because the UK ultimately does not wish to relinquish its full control over that island?
BigBallinStalin wrote:If the UK actually wanted the Falkanders to become part of the negotiation, then why not grant that political entity its own Full sovereignty?
If national security (e.g. ARG invasion) is an issue, then the two sovereign nations of UK and Kelper Kingdom can sign a military alliance, thus giving UK casus belli if ARG invades.
Then, the Falklanders would have the discretion to resolve this issue. But that doesn't happen. Why? Because the UK ultimately does not wish to relinquish its full control over that island?
It seems that the UK is not at all interested in negotiating with anybody (neither ARG nor Kelper Kingdom). If anyone believes otherwise, then how would they explain all the above problems in this post and my previous one?
Symmetry wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:If the UK actually wanted the Falkanders to become part of the negotiation, then why not grant that political entity its own Full sovereignty?
If national security (e.g. ARG invasion) is an issue, then the two sovereign nations of UK and Kelper Kingdom can sign a military alliance, thus giving UK casus belli if ARG invades.
Then, the Falklanders would have the discretion to resolve this issue. But that doesn't happen. Why? Because the UK ultimately does not wish to relinquish its full control over that island?
It seems that the UK is not at all interested in negotiating with anybody (neither ARG nor Kelper Kingdom). If anyone believes otherwise, then how would they explain all the above problems in this post and my previous one?
That's a decision for the people who live there to make.
Dukasaur wrote:The Argentinian claim to the Falklands is entirely based on the Spanish claim to the Falklands, and the Spanish claim to the Falklands is purely bogus. The Spanish established a colony. Pathetically mismanaged, it soon fell apart. The English came and started a colony. Intelligently managed, it has thrived for hundreds of years.
To have some inkling of the absolutely colossal incompetence of the Spanish colonial administration, consider this: After stealing the Aztec and Inca gold hoards, Spain had 60% of the world's known gold reserve. This was at a time when the gold standard was still nearly universal, so in effect they had 60% of the world's money. More money than all the other countries on the planet combined! Yet, in less than a century they were bankrupt and begging for money. Less than a century to squander more than half of the money on the entire fucking planet!
I hope Philips III and IV have a very special place in Hell, condemned to an eternity of being kicked in the balls by Samuel Bronfman, who could teach them a thing or two about spending money wisely.
If Macaulay's essays were mandatory reading in school instead of fluff like the Catcher in the Rye, this would all be commone knowledge.
Of course, we now have the hilarious spectacle of organisations like the European Parliament "recognising" the Argentine (Spanish colonial) claim. Keep in mind that this is a Parliament composed mainly of welfare statists, who love rewarding failure. Of course colonial Spain, poster child for catastrophic incompetence, would be a beloved darling to them. These are the same people who love bailing out failed banks instead of letting them fall into the sewer where they belong.
Aside from the failed Spanish colony and the laughable legal technicalities arising from it, the Argentines have nothing. Neither geologically, nor ethnically, nor economically, have the Falklands ever been attached to Argentina. It's a bogus claim, only kept alive by the the sinister forces underlying the modern state -- a desire to punish success and reward failure.
Symmetry wrote:Rabid nationalism is kinda harsh for a suggestion that Argentina talk to the people.
BigBallinStalin wrote:ITT.
BigBallinStalin wrote:Symmetry wrote:Rabid nationalism is kinda harsh for a suggestion that Argentina talk to the people.
Your willful ignorance of other relevant factors in this event prevent you from being taken seriously ITT.
2dimes wrote:BigBallinStalin wrote:ITT.
Just in this one?
2dimes wrote:Australia is a much better commonwealth in that there were meat pies available in the airports a and at fast food kiosks. It was pretty awesome.
Do they have pie stands like that in the Falklands?
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