Basically none of that is accurate.
What I find frustrating about this groupd of people on CC, is how brazenly and confidently they talk as though they know all the angles of any given topic, while at the same time they don't know anything about the topic.
warmonger1981 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote :We control where our aid goes.
Funniest shit I heard in a long time.
We are literally transporting a few dozen Syrian fighters at a time to Libya, training & arming them, then sending them back to Syria. We're not arming the entire goddamn FSA with Apache helicopters. The Obama plan calls for only a few hundred trained & armed fighters, and we're not even doing all the training.
Right now, The United States and Saudi Arabia will be donating heavier weapons & heavy weapons training,
yeah,
but the US isn't giving out anything that can harm our own military jets or tanks. Those weapons that we are donating are useless against our own military assets. Even the Saudi weapons are useless.
And again, we are only training
FSA NON-SECULAR, PRO-DEMOCRACY, PRO-WESTERN fighters. These are the guys who are fighting Assad, al-Nusra, and Al-Qaeda. Syria has historically been a non-sectarian safe haven for anyone of any faith. The FSA is made up of Christians and Muslims of different sects. The only guys these people hate more than Assad is the extremists. They want a Democratic-Socialist-type of government.
warmonger1981 wrote:Now what about Israel attacking Russian arm depots inside Syria or Israel saying that if Russia delivers a missile defense system they will attack. Or hezbollah supplying the Syria regime with weapons and people. Or refugees flooding Jordan and Lebenon making the economy shakey. Do you think Russia will sit by while America carves up the middle east? Russia and China are the ones blocking the UN from invading while Europe sends weapons to rebels AKA al-qaeda or other people who want to kill us. Sound like the Afghan war all over again. Give them guns and money they kill us with that shit 10 years later
Russia and China have nothing to say about it.
They can block the UN Security council, and it's well and good that they should. They can even give weapons to Assad, whatever. But they cannot stop the combined support of Saudi Arabia and the United States. Right now we're about as limited on involvement as we can be, and that goes for the Saudi's as well. But Saudi Arabia has sole control over all of the word's oil prices, as they are not only the head of OPEC, but they also have an entire year's worth of GDP in cash reserves. That's trillions. No other OPEC nation has cash reserves like that. In the 90's, Saudi Arabia single-handedly destroyed Venezuela's economy for violating an OPEC decision. At that point, even the United States was powerless to help Venezuela, who violated the ruling to aid the US. The Saudi's can stop shipments of oil to any country, from any OPEC country, and it won't affect their own standard of living at all. If anyone goes against Saudi Arabia, they go against OPEC.
Israel as well, is a wild-card that Russia won't mess with. Israel is a small nation with a large security force that has proven in the past that it won't hesitate to pre-emptively attack any threat. All Russia can do is bark loudly. Because if Russia sends serious military aid, Israel will bomb the sh*t out of it, and Russia won't even be able to escalate the situation militarily, because Saudi Arabia will politically support the attack.
I don't believe that the EU has sent any weapons to any rebels yet, as the EU's arms embargo was allowed to expire August 1st 2013. The only European country to promise aid was France.
AND AGAIN I STRESS, we are arming the non-sectarian, PRO-DEMOCRACY, PRO-WESTERN FSA against President Assad and the Muslim Extremists. NO MATTER WHAT WE DO, Assad is going to be ousted. By aiding the FSA we are ensuring that the good guys will be the ones to replace him, and not the fundamentalist extremists.
IN AFGHANISTAN, we armed the extremists in their Holy War against the Soviets. Here, we are doing the opposite. The FSA leaders are largely Western-Educated, and have no interest in a Sharia-Law state. Just because the area is predominately Muslim does not in any way mean that it's exactly the same as Afghanistan.