Frigidus wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:For you to convince me that there is some reason NOT to bomb Syria, you would have to show me that there is some ethical basis behind Nationalism. As far as I'm concerned, nation states don't have a right to self-govern. Nationalism is the bastard child of racism and imperialism, so you can't in one post say that racism is bad, in another that American oil imperialism is bad and then in another say that Syrian people have the right to be ruled by whoever they want. These are self-defeating arguments.
OK, I'm lost here. Help me follow your train of thought:
1. Nationalism is an extension of racism and imperialism
2. Group X dislikes racism and imperialism
3. Group X feels that Syria should be able to choose their rulers
4. Therefore Group X are hypocrites
The problem here is that I'm not seeing how the third point puts Group X in favor of nationalism. Are you saying that just by existing as a nationstate Syria is an embodiment of racism and imperialism and we should be opposed to them? I also fail to see how we should go from point 4 to bombing Syria.
Point 3 is almost a definition of pro-nationalism. I am not saying we should be opposed to them, just that if you are opposed to racism and imperialism, you must also be opposed to nationalism.
Point 4 doesn't lead to bombing Syria, it just defeats the main anti-bombing argument from this thread.
The reasons we should bomb Syria:
1) Defeat USSR interests
2) more oil money
3) they don't play very many card games, 41 and trex are the only ones that are somewhat common. this is a sign of cultural depravity, and we should show them true culture... the exploding phallic kind.