Phatscotty wrote:Just when I was about to say where the heck are all the Americans in this thread!
When I see the words "honest conversation" in the "Babble-On Five" forum I generally either skip over it or just don't bother to reply. This just isn't the place for an "honest discussion."
I've been reading the book "Liberty, the God that Failed," by Christopher A. Ferrara. While it has nothing to do directly with "race" it does talk about the general deception of the various writers of the Age of Enlightenment which include many of the United State's Founding Fathers. So it is easy to take a lot of the writings of the Founding Fathers with a grain of salt.
And now for a joke: Two racists walk into a bar and accuse the bartender of racism.
The whole topic is so filled with smoke and mirrors that it's hard not to talk about the smoke and mirrors and not the actual topic. The people who are calling "racist" are typically the ones who themselves are racist and who depend on racism in order for those people to make an extremely comfortable living. The Democratic Party was the party of the KKK. Many of its highest members in Congress were former important members of the Klan.
This becomes important, because as I will point out, racism is only a minor problem compared to the real problem of the Liberal Progressive policies of the Democratic Party.
Let's not forget that the Democratic Party was the original party of Southern Slavery. In the north, the party dedicated its power towards bribing newly arriving immigrants to become loyal members of the Party (in New York this was especially true through an organization known as "Tammany Hall"). Combined with the notions of progressivism, the notion of the forced dependency of groups in order to get perpetual assured votes is a common tactic of the Democratic Party in urban centers. For a number of reasons, including racist motives, the Democratic Party set up these arrangements in a number of urban centers in the Black communities of those urban centers.
Knowing that the policies of the liberal progressives never work, those same people needed a way to keep the failing communities from revolting. To do this, one needs a common enemy. One also needs a "religious" angle as well. Thus the development of "Liberation Theology" and the painting of those outside the community as the ones causing the problems. For the black community, the outsiders were "racists." (While those Black Americans who escaped the trap of liberal progressive policies were considered "traitors" to the race.) Poverty leads to crime and as a result, black on black violence has reached near epic proportions. However, since the mainstream media is liberal progressive and thus this is against their narrative, this is generally unreported.
Since we can't address the cause of the violence (POVERTY caused by liberal progressive urban policies) the only solution is more smoke and mirrors. Instead of getting the youth to respect the law and law enforcement, they are taught to fear the law and the law enforcement. For many black youth, the local police are viewed in the same light as Jews in WWII would have treated the German Secret Police (or SS). Many people make a lot of money promoting this stereotype. Given this atmosphere, in a situation where violence (black on black) is common and an attitude that the cops racists out to get them, is it any wonder why violent confrontations between those who do not respect the law and despise those who have to enforce it and officers of the law?
A man was killed during an arrest in New York. This had nothing to do with race, although the man was black (as the arresting officer's supervisor who was at the scene the whole time was not only black but female). It does have a lot to do with the liberal progressive (and let's face it Communist because that was who he had actively supported throughout his whole life, both in Cuba and Nicaragua) mayor who decided that avoiding the cigarette taxes was so offensive that those who sold even individual cigarettes should be arrested. This man suffered a heart attack during the take down maneuver. (The progressive media jumped on his statement "I can't breathe" ... but this was not a choke hold and it should be pointed out that so many people fake this complaint during take down maneuvers that those who do stop the take down maneuver often find the situation reversed and the officer in a position where the assailant could do serious injury to the officer.)
Immediately the race profiteers sprung into action, whipping up the community once again in a highly predictable manner. (One of them apparently burns both ends of the candle as he organized a protest against the corporation who gives him a lot of money to host a show on their own network, literally stomping on the hand that feeds him.) In addition the mayor (who is known to violate almost every law that he strictly enforces on everyone else ... especially traffic laws) threw his own police under the bus. As a result, of the race profiteers, two officers were assassinated.
So can we have an "honest conversation?" Not if the racist race baiters have their way and that is what is happening. Bashing, (while a staple of this forum) isn't an "honest conversation."
