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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:23 pm

1984 (George Orwell)
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27%

Alice's Adventures in Wonderland (Lewis Carroll)
1
4%

Brave New World (Aldous Huxley)
1
4%

Brideshead Revisited (Evelyn Waugh)
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Clockwork Orange, A (Anthony Burgess)
2
8%

Frankenstein (Mary Shelley)
2
8%

Great Expectations (Charles Dickens)
2
8%

Gulliver's Travels (Jonathan Swift)
1
4%

Jane Eyre (Charlotte Brontë)
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Kidnapped (Robert Louis Stevenson)
0
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Kim (Rudyard Kipling)
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Lord of the Flies (William Golding)
3
12%

Middlemarch (George Eliot)
0
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Rainbow, The (D.H. Lawrence)
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Robinson Crusoe (Daniel Defoe)
3
12%

Sign of Four, The (Arthur Conan Doyle)
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Other (write-in)
4
15%
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby saxitoxin on Wed Dec 30, 2015 12:23 pm

everything with less than 2 votes has been eliminated - vote again
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Wed Dec 30, 2015 2:57 pm

Too late to add Hitchhikers Guide then?
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby jonesthecurl on Thu Dec 31, 2015 12:25 am

No Chaucer? No Wodehouse? No Wyndam? No Austen? No Fielding? etc etc etc
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Thu Dec 31, 2015 7:20 am

jonesthecurl wrote:No Chaucer? No Wodehouse? No Wyndam? No Austen? No Fielding? etc etc etc

Chaucer was not a novel, and was not written in English.. not as we know it. ;) Wan the Avril.....

Per the rest.. There were at least 2 nominations for Tolkien that were ignored, so not surprising othe.
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby Dukasaur on Thu Dec 31, 2015 10:06 pm

PLAYER57832 wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:No Chaucer? No Wodehouse? No Wyndam? No Austen? No Fielding? etc etc etc

Chaucer was not a novel, and was not written in English.. not as we know it. ;) Wan the Avril.....

Per the rest.. There were at least 2 nominations for Tolkien that were ignored, so not surprising othe.

I disagree.

First, about not being a novel: Canterbury Tales would qualify as a novel by the modern definition. (an extended fictional work in prose; usually in the form of a story). It's a frame-tale, which perhaps would not satisfy the stricter 19th century definition of a novel, which is all one plot, but the looser modern definition allows multiple plots.

Second, about being English. Well, Chaucer used Middle English, not Modern English, that is technically true. Still, it was a relatively late form of Middle English, and much closer to Modern English than to Old English. We did read part of the Canterbury Tales in high school (in the original) and it is possible (albeit difficult) for a speaker of Modern English to read.

Overall, it's a fun group of stories.
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jan 01, 2016 12:45 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:No Chaucer? No Wodehouse? No Wyndam? No Austen? No Fielding? etc etc etc

Chaucer was not a novel, and was not written in English.. not as we know it. ;) Wan the Avril.....

Per the rest.. There were at least 2 nominations for Tolkien that were ignored, so not surprising othe.

I disagree.

First, about not being a novel: Canterbury Tales would qualify as a novel by the modern definition. (an extended fictional work in prose; usually in the form of a story). It's a frame-tale, which perhaps would not satisfy the stricter 19th century definition of a novel, which is all one plot, but the looser modern definition allows multiple plots.

Second, about being English. Well, Chaucer used Middle English, not Modern English, that is technically true. Still, it was a relatively late form of Middle English, and much closer to Modern English than to Old English. We did read part of the Canterbury Tales in high school (in the original) and it is possible (albeit difficult) for a speaker of Modern English to read.

Overall, it's a fun group of stories.


I understand what you're getting at with this, but the Canterbury Tales are not in prose, they're poetry.
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Fri Jan 01, 2016 1:50 pm

Is that also why no Shakespear appears?
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby Symmetry on Fri Jan 01, 2016 3:52 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Is that also why no Shakespear appears?


By any spelling of his name, yes, though part of his work in his dramas is in prose. Not novels though.

It's difficult to pick out what defines a novel though, which I think is what Duk was going for. It being in prose, rather than poetry is key though. It's what distinguishes the form from some of its predecessors.

Picking out the first proper novel gets tough though. I've heard 'Le princesse du Cleve"( if I got the French right) ,"Don't Quixote", and "Tristram Shandy" all given first novel shouts, but it really depends on what you mean vs what went before.

I like "Beware the Cat", but I'm odd.
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Re: Greatest Work of British Literature (novel)

Postby PLAYER57832 on Fri Jan 01, 2016 4:00 pm

Dukasaur wrote: We did read part of the Canterbury Tales in high school (in the original) and it is possible (albeit difficult) for a speaker of Modern English to read.
I not only read it, we had to memorize part of it (though it has long since fled my brain, other than that first bit). Anyway, I would not say it is understandable, at all.

Wan the avril.. not exactly modern English.

Also, Canterbury tales is poetry.
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