China: throw as many Hitler salutes as you please, revel in huge freedom Germany: throw a Hitler salute, get jailed, fined and expelled from the country
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:22 am
by Thorthoth
To know what is powerful, look for what is forbidden.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:33 am
by Bernie Sanders
mrswdk wrote:
GoranZ wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Germany more like Big Brother-y amirite?
Chinese tourists arrested for Hitler salute in Germany
Two Chinese tourists were arrested in Berlin for making Hitler salutes outside the German parliament on Saturday.
Criminal proceedings have been started against the middle-aged men for using symbols from a banned organisation.
Japan was a fascist regime. China was brutalized by Japan's fascists aka NAZIS.
Why don't you immigrate to the Great Chinese People's Republic and enjoy the freedom that this country provides.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 9:40 am
by mrswdk
Bernie Sanders wrote:Japan was a fascist regime correct. China was brutalized by Japan's fascists correct aka NAZIS incorrect.
Why don't you immigrate incorrect to the Great Chinese People's Republic correct and enjoy the freedom that this country provides.
Fact check 1/3
Terminology and grammar check 1/2
Final rating: 10%
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:04 am
by Bernie Sanders
The cartoon caricature speaks.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:13 am
by waauw
This just shows that Chinese people don't know how to respect local cultures. Even after years in London mrswdk still hasn't caught on to western morals.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:28 am
by mrswdk
waauw wrote:This just shows that Chinese people don't know how to respect local cultures. Even after years in London mrswdk still hasn't caught on to western morals.
You are wrong there. I have great and deep experience of the Western refusal to abide or even respect China's different approaches to government, society and general existence.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:34 am
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:This just shows that Chinese people don't know how to respect local cultures. Even after years in London mrswdk still hasn't caught on to western morals.
You are wrong there. I have great and deep experience of the Western refusal to abide or even respect China's different approaches to government, society and general existence.
Just because the Chinese have abandoned hope and accept being oppressed by their evil government doesn't make it special or worth respecting in any way. Here in the West, we still have a shred of backbone and we like to tell our governments what foul assholes they are. Sadly, we rarely go any further than that, but at least it's some remnant of the original free nomadic human. After 5,000 years of dictatorship, the Chinese have had their spine beaten out of them.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:41 am
by Bernie Sanders
This is how the Chinese government think about religious freedom.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 10:43 am
by Bernie Sanders
Brave Chinese troops with AK47 aimed at a dangerous woman.
Notice how the other two Chinese soldiers are ducking out of the way, before the execution happens.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 11:38 am
by degaston
I happen to be in China right now. This was in our hotel room. Yea! Free speech!
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 12:01 pm
by TA1LGUNN3R
mrswdk wrote:Germany more like Big Brother-y amirite?
Chinese tourists arrested for Hitler salute in Germany
Two Chinese tourists were arrested in Berlin for making Hitler salutes outside the German parliament on Saturday.
Criminal proceedings have been started against the middle-aged men for using symbols from a banned organisation.
Says the guy who has nothing further to say about free speech in China, and apparently doesn't know that T-Mobile roaming data traffic is proxied through servers in the US, thus avoiding the Great Wall of Censorship.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:27 pm
by mrswdk
I could start by pointing out that the English in the photo you posted is a poor translation of the Chinese. The Chinese says that guests have no means of accessing sites such as facebook (wufa shiyong/无法使用), not that doing so would be illegal (which would be feifa shiyong / 非法使用). The part that is against the law is using un-registered VPN services.
I could also point out that the government's primary motivation for blocking Facebook, YouTube and Google (not that the government has ever published its reasons anywhere) is more likely in order to enable equivalent Chinese sites like Renren, Youku and Baidu to grow in place of American competition. Thus enabling a) Chinese industry to grow in place of American and b) Chinese data to remain with Chinese companies rather than with American ones, on America servers. It's a matter of domestic economic development and national security, not an attempt to stop Chinese surfers from accessing American cat videos.
Sorry that your current difficulty accessing Facebook isn't part of some Nazi conspiracy. Sorry to burst your little 'China is fascist' high horse bubble. Sorry if your little butt got hurt.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:32 pm
by Bernie Sanders
Still like to have sex with your avatar.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 2:38 pm
by mrswdk
Bernie Sanders wrote:Still like to have sex with your avatar.
Well of course you would. The Chinese womans are one of the most graceful and desirable entities to occupy this planet (^0^)
大哥，我等你啦，快过来哦 ^3^
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:02 pm
by Dukasaur
mrswdk wrote:I could start by pointing out that the English in the photo you posted is a poor translation of the Chinese. The Chinese says that guests have no means of accessing sites such as facebook (wufa shiyong/无法使用), not that doing so would be illegal (which would be feifa shiyong / 非法使用). The part that is against the law is using un-registered VPN services.
I could also point out that the government's primary motivation for blocking Facebook, YouTube and Google (not that the government has ever published its reasons anywhere) is more likely in order to enable equivalent Chinese sites like Renren, Youku and Baidu to grow in place of American competition. Thus enabling a) Chinese industry to grow in place of American and b) Chinese data to remain with Chinese companies rather than with American ones, on America servers. It's a matter of domestic economic development and national security, not an attempt to stop Chinese surfers from accessing American cat videos.
Sorry that your current difficulty accessing Facebook isn't part of some Nazi conspiracy. Sorry to burst your little 'China is fascist' high horse bubble. Sorry if your little butt got hurt.
That's a whole lot of sorrow in one paragraph!
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 3:14 pm
by waauw
TA1LGUNN3R wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Germany more like Big Brother-y amirite?
Chinese tourists arrested for Hitler salute in Germany
Two Chinese tourists were arrested in Berlin for making Hitler salutes outside the German parliament on Saturday.
Criminal proceedings have been started against the middle-aged men for using symbols from a banned organisation.
Europe isn't far off from the USA. Racism, hate propaganda and holocaust denials are the only thing we restrict more than the USA. In this the USA is about the only exception in the world, with countries like Canada and Australia following the european example. No country is as free with it as America, but that doesn't mean the rest of the world is against free speech. It's a spectrum, with the USA on one side and countries like North-Korea and China on the other.
Re: Germany crushes Chinese free speech
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 4:00 pm
by mrswdk
waauw wrote:Racism, hate propaganda and holocaust denials are the only thing we restrict more than the USA.
Police have arrested a 19-year-old man over an “offensive” tweet about the Glasgow bin lorry crash that has killed six people.
The tweet, which has since been deleted along with the account that posted it, joked about the tragedy, in which the driver lost control of the vehicle and drove on the pavement, hitting Christmas shoppers “like pinballs”.
The tweet said: “So a bin lorry has apparently driven in 100 people in Glasgow eh, probably the most trash it’s picked up in one day”.
A man in the UK has been arrested on charges of inciting racial hatred on social media, after he tweeted about asking a Muslim woman to "explain" the terror attacks in Brussels.
A 16-year-old high school student was taken into police custody on Thursday and indicted for “defending terrorism,” national broadcaster France 3 reports.
His alleged crime? He posted on Facebook a cartoon “representing a person holding the magazine Charlie Hebdo, being hit by bullets, and accompanied by an ‘ironic’ comment,” France 3 states.
waauw wrote:Racism, hate propaganda and holocaust denials are the only thing we restrict more than the USA.
Police have arrested a 19-year-old man over an “offensive” tweet about the Glasgow bin lorry crash that has killed six people.
The tweet, which has since been deleted along with the account that posted it, joked about the tragedy, in which the driver lost control of the vehicle and drove on the pavement, hitting Christmas shoppers “like pinballs”.
The tweet said: “So a bin lorry has apparently driven in 100 people in Glasgow eh, probably the most trash it’s picked up in one day”.
A man in the UK has been arrested on charges of inciting racial hatred on social media, after he tweeted about asking a Muslim woman to "explain" the terror attacks in Brussels.
A 16-year-old high school student was taken into police custody on Thursday and indicted for “defending terrorism,” national broadcaster France 3 reports.
His alleged crime? He posted on Facebook a cartoon “representing a person holding the magazine Charlie Hebdo, being hit by bullets, and accompanied by an ‘ironic’ comment,” France 3 states.
Means nothing. People get wrongfully arrested all the time. Happens everywhere. It's court convictions that matter. Besides your first one handed himself in:
The arrested man, believed to be Ross Loraine, from Sunderland, handed himself in to Northumbria Police.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 6:27 am
