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betiko wrote:What are your thoughts on that?
2dimes wrote:*engineering.
Gah!
betiko wrote:Therefore, the weird english spelling is due to some missleading old french word. Now you know why I spell it like that
saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:What are your thoughts on that?
2dimes wrote:betiko wrote:Therefore, the weird english spelling is due to some missleading old french word. Now you know why I spell it like that
I miss spell thing for lots of reasons. Partially because English spelling is goofy. Trough? Seriously?
mrswdk wrote:1) why not?
2) the sun, poo poo. NESW compass points didn’t exist back when the pyramids were built so if they were aligned to anything it wasn’t the compass
jonesthecurl wrote:5) No they don't. They're roughly in a straight line, so are the stars in the belt. This nonsense was poo-poohed some while ago.Including by the guy who made the claim in the first place.
betiko wrote:7) were the egyptians descendants of other mesopotamian civilizations? The amount of knowledge they had in astronomy, physics and ingeneering had to come from way back. There are some discoveries in eastern turkey of some megalitical sites from 11600BC that are quite astonishing. It is said that the sphynx could be as old as that.
Kimura first estimated that the monument must be at least 10,000 years old (8,000 BCE), dating it to a period when it would have been above water.[12] In a report given to the 21st Pacific Science Congress in 2007, he revised this estimate and dated it to 2,000 to 3,000 years ago because the sea level then was close to current levels. He suggests that after construction, tectonic activity caused it to be submerged below sea level.[3] Archaeologist Richard J. Pearson believes this to be unlikely.[9] Kimura believes he can identify a pyramid, castles, roads, monuments and a stadium. Kimura has also surmised that the site may be a remnant of the mythical lost continent of Mu.[3]
betiko wrote:1) what were they really meant for? Seems like a king's tomb is probably not the case
betiko wrote:2) how are they so well aligned with the true north/ and east west axis?
betiko wrote:6) what were the shafts for? It seems like they were perfectly aligned at the time with sirius and other stars. Since then, the axis of the earth has changed a bit.
betiko wrote:7) were the egyptians descendants of other mesopotamian civilizations? The amount of knowledge they had in astronomy, physics and ingeneering had to come from way back. There are some discoveries in eastern turkey of some megalitical sites from 11600BC that are quite astonishing. It is said that the sphynx could be as old as that.
betiko wrote:jonesthecurl wrote:5) No they don't. They're roughly in a straight line, so are the stars in the belt. This nonsense was poo-poohed some while ago.Including by the guy who made the claim in the first place.
The thing with the pyramids, is that there are a lot of nuthead theories out there. You might be right. What i heard is that the 3 pyramids are not in an exact straight line, and have sizes matching the intensity of the 3 stars of orion's belt. Maybe it's wrong.
I haven't measured it obviously... I'm just looking at some stuff, and not buying everything i hear, but still trying to keep an open mind about all this.
The fact that the earth has been changing its axis a slightly in over 5000 years is something that sounds pretty credible to me.
The thing is, that the pyramids rely on many sciences. I don't think we can trust an egyptologist alone, because he will lack of knowledge in certain fields.
I head the scientists that found the void on top of the king's chamber last week (aparently it's as huge as the main galery leading to the king's chamber) and the guys were saying that all they could tell was that they found that void. They didn't have the competence to bring some theories on the table, because it's not their field.
Well it feels like somethimes egyptologists speak too much out of their ass and are not open to discussion... As if this civilization had already revealed all its mysteries.
saxitoxin wrote:betiko wrote:What are your thoughts on that?
mrswdk wrote:2) like I said, north east south and west weren’t concepts at the time the pyramids were built. if the pyramids were deliberately aligned to anything it would have been sunrise. either that or they weren’t aligned to anything at all and their positioning is just coincidence
Thorthoth wrote:Yes, this was basically what ancient Egypt was really like.
tzor wrote:The first thing about the pyramids is you need to consider them all in context, and it's a complex set of context.
Way back around 2600 BC they started getting the idea of making step pyramids smooth. Step periods were common in the third dynasty but this is now the fourth dynasty.
Here is the Pyramid of Djoser around 2650 BC.
So anyway we get back to 2600 BC and the idea is a smashing ... oh crap ... it's not. Look you just can't scrap a pyramid half way through construction so they just cut the size short by changing the angle.
The Bent Pyramidaround 2600 BC. (Slope 43°22', top - 54°27'44, bottom)
Finally we get to 2550 BC and the Great Pyramid, the first in the Giza complex.
The great pyramid (Slope 51°52'±2')
So how were the pyramids built? Trial and error. Very expensive error.
Was there a grand design to the Giza pyramids? Probably and why not use the heavens as a guide? (It's probably as accurate a placement as the faces on Mt Rushmore ... yes one is placed oddly because it's proper place was unstable.)
Were they built as tombs? Of course not. They were public works projects. There are whole cities in China that are built but never occupied because they needed people doing things like building cities. The whole economy that went around the construction of one of these things was far greater than just the impact of having a final resting place. It was an entire community of workers, priests, and officials. It was an entire city of people and an entire city economy. In fact, a pyramid was the last place you wanted to be; to have a huge sign pointing down at you saying "HERE IS MY FINAL RESTING PLACE. DESECRATE MY CORPSE HERE!" Once the economic novelty of such buildings had passed and a number of the older one started to be robbed, people went back to the good old days of hiding your resting place where no one could possibly find you *but still they did).
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