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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby waauw on Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:53 am

mrswdk wrote:
waauw wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I have to admit generally I've always maintained just enough of an army to deter people while playing the cultural diplomatic game.

Huayna just rolled up on me with 8 galleons and I had like one ship to try and stop him with, now I'm getting rolled over like a mother.

Civ-game strategies don't count towards great naval victories.


Even my successful amphibious invasion of Ireland that I launched from south east China?

Hmmm, maybe. That is impressive.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby mrswdk on Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:02 am

Thanks buddy.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:23 am

The U.S. Coast Guard, which doesn't have the benefit of fighting in flotilla and squadron formations, has undoubtedly fought some of the most ferocious single ship naval battles of the United States -

1. Ingahm Incident of 1835 - Though outsized and outgunned, the United States Coast Guard cutter USRC Ingahm repels a surprise attack by the Mexcan Navy sloop-of-war ARM Montezuma in an hours-long gunnery duel in the Carribean, ultimately running the Montezuma aground. The incident inspires part of the lyrics of the Coast Guard marching song ("From Aztec shore ..." and "Semper Paratus is our guide, our fame and glory too").

2. Long Island Encounter of 1814 - Coast Guard cuttter USRC Eagle is attacked and sank by the Royal Navy frigates HMS Despatch and HMS Narcissus off Long Island. The crew salvage the Eagle's cannons and row them to shore and continue the battle from the shore. After they run out of shells, they start collecting Royal Navy cannonballs from the beach that have been fired at them and start firing them back. Eagle's name is preserved on the contemporary Coast Guard barque USCGC Eagle, a war trophy taken from Germany after WWII.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby mrswdk on Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:35 am

saxitoxin wrote:2. Long Island Encounter of 1814 - Coast Guard cuttter USRC Eagle is attacked and sank by the Royal Navy frigates HMS Despatch and HMS Narcissus off Long Island. The crew salvage the Eagle's cannons and row them to shore and continue the battle from the shore. After they run out of shells, they start collecting Royal Navy cannonballs from the beach that have been fired at them and start firing them back. Eagle's name is preserved on the contemporary Coast Guard barque USCGC Eagle, a war trophy taken from Germany after WWII.


This thread is for real stories.

Why not tell us about your greatest water polo victory?
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby saxitoxin on Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:38 am

mrswdk wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:2. Long Island Encounter of 1814 - Coast Guard cuttter USRC Eagle is attacked and sank by the Royal Navy frigates HMS Despatch and HMS Narcissus off Long Island. The crew salvage the Eagle's cannons and row them to shore and continue the battle from the shore. After they run out of shells, they start collecting Royal Navy cannonballs from the beach that have been fired at them and start firing them back. Eagle's name is preserved on the contemporary Coast Guard barque USCGC Eagle, a war trophy taken from Germany after WWII.


This thread is for real stories.

Why not tell us about your greatest water polo victory?


1. F yourself, it is real
2. too many to count; and, also, F yourself again
3. when you're done F'ing yourself, SUCK IT
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby mrswdk on Thu Nov 30, 2017 9:42 am

1 - wikipedia says the Eagle was sold off in 1798 so there
2 - lol good point is there such a thing as a great water polo victory?
3 - say it in Czech, Mr Jetsetter
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby tzor on Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:43 am

mrswdk wrote:1 - wikipedia says the Eagle was sold off in 1798 so there

Wrong Eagle. The Wikipedia article is on the Schooner Eagle, this was the Cutter Eagle.

Here is an article on the story from the Riverhead News Review
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby mrswdk on Thu Nov 30, 2017 11:20 am

You meant the cutter Eagle built for America by the Nazis in 1936?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Eagle_(WIX-327)
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby armati on Fri Dec 01, 2017 8:14 pm

You guys might like the "Kings and Generals" series on u tube.
About 10 minute videos of historical battles that changed the course of history.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:51 pm

Got to be the defeat of the Spanish Armada, surely.

Or maybe Trafalgar?

Few naval encounters really become legendary- a part of a nation's own myth. I'd say that those two are pretty keyed in to the British psyche. Whether it's the might of Britain's navy; the idea of being the underdog vs an arrogant opponent; Protestantism vs Catholicism; technology vs tradition...

Any way that you look at those battles, you see that it's not just a matter of tactics and strategy. A great battle echoes down the ages.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:36 am

Battle of Trafalgar
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The Battle of Trafalgar (21 October 1805) was a naval engagement fought by the British Royal Navy against the combined fleets of the French and Spanish Navies, during the War of the Third Coalition (August–December 1805) of the Napoleonic Wars(1796–1815).[3]
Twenty-seven British ships of the line led by Admiral Lord Nelson aboard HMS Victory defeated thirty-three French and Spanish ships of the line under the French Admiral Villeneuve in the Atlantic Ocean off the southwest coast of Spain, just west of Cape Trafalgar, near the town of Los Caños de Meca. The Franco-Spanish fleet lost twenty-two ships, without a single British vessel being lost. It was the most decisive naval battle of the war.
The British victory spectacularly confirmed the naval supremacy that Britain had established during the eighteenth century and was achieved in part through Nelson's departure from the prevailing naval tactical orthodoxy.[4] Conventional practice, at the time, was to engage an enemy fleet in a single line of battle parallel to the enemy, to facilitate signalling in battle and disengagement, and to maximise fields of fire and target areas. Nelson instead divided his smaller force into two columns directed perpendicularly against the enemy fleet, with decisive results.
During the battle, Nelson was shot by a French musketeer; he died shortly thereafter, becoming one of Britain's greatest war heroes. Villeneuve was captured along with his ship Bucentaure. Admiral Federico Gravina, the senior Spanish flag officer, escaped with the remnant of the fleet and succumbed months later to wounds sustained during the battle. Villeneuve attended Nelson's funeral while a captive on parole in Britain.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby waauw on Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:37 am

I once punctured a hole into a rubber duck and filled it with water. It sank. Does this count as a naval victory?
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:03 pm

waauw wrote:I once punctured a hole into a rubber duck and filled it with water. It sank. Does this count as a naval victory?



Puncturing a rubber duck in a twisting sex act does not count as a naval victory.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby jusplay4fun on Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:09 pm

I have to agree with Symmetry on these two as Nominations:

#1 Battle of Trafalgar, and

#2
(I did not know about the Counter-Armada of 1589)

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Spanish Armada
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The Spanish Armada (Spanish: Grande y Felicísima Armada, literally "Great and Most Fortunate Navy") was a Spanish fleet of 130 ships that sailed from La Coruña in August 1588, under the command of the Duke of Medina Sidonia with the purpose of escorting an army from Flanders to invade England. The strategic aim was to overthrow Queen Elizabeth I and her establishment of Protestantism in England, with the expectation that this would put a stop to English interference in the Spanish Netherlands and to the harm caused to Spanish interests by English and Dutch privateering.

The Armada chose not to attack the English fleet at Plymouth, then failed to establish a temporary anchorage in the Solent, after one Spanish ship had been captured by Francis Drake in the English Channel. The Armada finally dropped anchor off Calais.[24] While awaiting communications from the Duke of Parma's army, the Armada was scattered by an English fireship attack. In the ensuing Battle of Gravelines the Spanish fleet was damaged and forced to abandon its rendezvous with Parma's army, who were blockaded in harbour by Dutch flyboats. The Armada managed to regroup and, driven by southwest winds, withdrew north, with the English fleet harrying it up the east coast of England. The commander ordered a return to Spain, but the Armada was disrupted during severe storms in the North Atlantic and a large number of the vessels were wrecked on the coasts of Scotland and Ireland. Of the initial 130 ships over a third failed to return.[25] As Martin and Parker explain, "Philip II attempted to invade England, but his plans miscarried, partly because of his own mismanagement, unfortunate weather, and partly because the opportunistic defensive naval efforts of the English and their Dutch allies (the use of ships set afire and sailed into the anchored Armada to create panic) prevailed."[26]

The expedition was the largest engagement of the undeclared Anglo-Spanish War (1585–1604). The following year, England organised a similar large-scale campaign against Spain, the Drake–Norris Expedition or "counter-Armada of 1589", which was unsuccessful and resulted in serious economic consequences and the loss of many English lives and ships.

Symmetry wrote:Got to be the defeat of the Spanish Armada, surely.

Or maybe Trafalgar?

Few naval encounters really become legendary- a part of a nation's own myth. I'd say that those two are pretty keyed in to the British psyche. Whether it's the might of Britain's navy; the idea of being the underdog vs an arrogant opponent; Protestantism vs Catholicism; technology vs tradition...

Any way that you look at those battles, you see that it's not just a matter of tactics and strategy. A great battle echoes down the ages.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:00 am


Battle of Midway

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"The Battle of Midway was a decisive naval battle in the Pacific Theater of World War II which occurred between 4 and 7 June 1942, only six months after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor and one month after the Battle of the Coral Sea.[6][7][8] The United States Navy under Admirals Chester Nimitz, Frank Jack Fletcher, and Raymond A. Spruance defeated an attacking fleet of the Imperial Japanese Navy under Admirals Isoroku Yamamoto, Chuichi Nagumo, and Nobutake Kondo near Midway Atoll, inflicting devastating damage on the Japanese fleet that proved irreparable. Military historian John Keegan called it "the most stunning and decisive blow in the history of naval warfare."[9]
The Japanese operation, like the earlier attack on Pearl Harbor, sought to eliminate the United States as a strategic power in the Pacific, thereby giving Japan a free hand in establishing its Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere. The Japanese hoped another demoralizing defeat would force the U.S. to capitulate in the Pacific War and thus ensure Japanese dominance in the Pacific. Luring the American aircraft carriers into a trap and occupying Midway was part of an overall "barrier" strategy to extend Japan's defensive perimeter, in response to the Doolittle air raid on Tokyo. This operation was also considered preparatory for further attacks against Fiji, Samoa, and Hawaii itself.
The plan was handicapped by faulty Japanese assumptions of the American reaction and poor initial dispositions. Most significantly, American cryptographers were able to determine the date and location of the planned attack, enabling the forewarned U.S. Navy to prepare its own ambush. There were seven aircraft carriers involved in the battle and all four of Japan's large aircraft carriers—Akagi, Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu, part of the six-carrier force that had attacked Pearl Harbor six months earlier—and a heavy cruiser were sunk, while the U.S. lost only the carrier Yorktown and a destroyer.
After Midway and the exhausting attrition of the Solomon Islands campaign, Japan's capacity to replace its losses in materiel(particularly aircraft carriers) and men (especially well-trained pilots and maintenance crewmen) rapidly became insufficient to cope with mounting casualties, while the United States' massive industrial and training capabilities made losses far easier to replace. The Battle of Midway, along with the Guadalcanal Campaign, is widely considered a turning point in the Pacific War."
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As an American, I have to add this one battle. It also provides the foundation of much of American Naval presence in much of the Pacific to this day. And YES, Perry visit to Japan and the Spanish American War are signficant events in this area, as far as American Naval Power is concerned.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby waauw on Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:11 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
waauw wrote:I once punctured a hole into a rubber duck and filled it with water. It sank. Does this count as a naval victory?



Puncturing a rubber duck in a twisting sex act does not count as a naval victory.

But what if it feels really good?
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Dec 17, 2017 10:57 am

waauw wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
waauw wrote:I once punctured a hole into a rubber duck and filled it with water. It sank. Does this count as a naval victory?



Puncturing a rubber duck in a twisting sex act does not count as a naval victory.

But what if it feels really good?


Then we'll call it a half-nelson.
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Lord Arioch on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:02 am

Salamis
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby ConfederateSS on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:11 am

Lord Arioch wrote:Salamis

ConfederateSS wrote:--------The saving of THE WEST FROM THE EAST.........In 2 battles...out numbered 6 to 1 in ships, all the ships were the same so no one should have had an advantage in that manner...THEMISTOCLES DESTROYING THE PERSIANS IN THE SAME ATTACK FORCE AT ARTEMISIUM AND SALAMIS.....IT ALL CAME DOWN TO WHO WAS FASTER...A BATTLE OF SPEED VS SPEED ,AS THEY RAMMED EACH OTHER'S SHIPS... =D> =D> =D> But credit for the battle will always be given to the land part of the attack...THE 300... :( ...Oh,well...it's all GREEK to me... ;) :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D

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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Lord Arioch on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:14 am

Bah i get a headache trying to read ur posts :)

Cape Ecnomus
Red Cliffs
Battle of the masts
or why dont u lot just read it for ur self:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_n ... in_history
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby ConfederateSS on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:37 am

Lord Arioch wrote:Bah i get a headache trying to read ur posts :)

Cape Ecnomus
Red Cliffs
Battle of the masts
or why dont u lot just read it for ur self:)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Largest_n ... in_history

----You should't get all your info...from wiki.......BECAUSE THE BATTLE STARTED BETWEEN THE 2 NAVIES AT ARTEMISIUM AND WAS FINISHED AT SALAMIS....EVEN THOUGH THE PERSIANS SACKED ATHENS...WHEN THEIR NAVY WAS DEFEATED...THEY KNEW THEY HAD TO RETURN TO PERSIA,THEY COULDN'T SUPPLY THEIR ARMY...WHICH MARCHED HOME ON LAND...THEMISTOCLES HURRIED TO ATHENS TO EVACUATE ALL THAT WANTED TO FLEE,BEFORE THE PERSIAN ARMY GOT THERE...THOSE THAT STAYED,STAYED BECAUSE THE ORACLE TOLD THEM THAT THEY WOULD BE SAVED BY A WOODEN WALL...IT TURNED OUT THOSE WHO WOULD BE SAVED,WERE SAVED BY THE WOODEN SHIPS OF THE GREEK NAVY...Not the great wooden wall around the city of Athens...AS THE PERSIANS KILLED ALL THOSE WHO DIDN'T FLEE...THE PERSIAN NAVY CHASED ,THE GREEK NAVY TO SALAMIS ,WHERE THE PEOPLE HAD BEEN EVACUATED...ALL IN ONE BIG CONTINUOUS BATTLE ,AS MILITARY HISTORIANS VIEW IT...DID WIKI TELL YOU THAT?... :lol: .... 8-) ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... 8-)
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Lord Arioch on Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:52 am

No but my degree in history did ... it also tells me to take Wiki with a fistfull of salt concerning how accurate it is :)
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby ConfederateSS on Fri Dec 22, 2017 2:14 am

------The Battle of Nahr-al-Kalek...Tigris river WWI...2-26-1917......I wonder why?... ;) :D ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... :D
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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Dec 22, 2017 8:42 am

Yes, I see how important this RIVER battle was......NOT:

"The Battle of Nahr-al-Kalek was fought in the immediate aftermath of the British recapture of Kut in February 1917 by Sir Frederick Maude, and largely destroyed the effectiveness of Turkish river forces on the Tigris River.

Having inadvertently outrun their own ground forces on 26 February 1917, the Royal Navy gunboats Mantis, Moth and Tarantula found themselves under fire some 30km north of Kut by four Turkish vessels at Nahr-al-Kalek while pursuing the retreating Turkish force from Kut."

This MUST be why I never NEVER of this battle, before now.

And I did NOT use Wikipedia for the above quote. http://www.firstworldwar.com/battles/nahralkalek.htm

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Re: Greatest naval victories in history

Postby Dukasaur on Fri Dec 22, 2017 9:16 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Yes, I see how important this RIVER battle was......NOT:

"The Battle of Nahr-al-Kalek was fought in the immediate aftermath of the British recapture of Kut in February 1917 by Sir Frederick Maude, and largely destroyed the effectiveness of Turkish river forces on the Tigris River.

Having inadvertently outrun their own ground forces on 26 February 1917, the Royal Navy gunboats Mantis, Moth and Tarantula found themselves under fire some 30km north of Kut by four Turkish vessels at Nahr-al-Kalek while pursuing the retreating Turkish force from Kut."

This MUST be why I never NEVER of this battle, before now.

Wrong answer.

The reason that you've never heard of it is that you haven't been paying attention to the Great War series, in which Nahr-al-Kalek is an upcoming tournament...:)

https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=207817&start=575#p4981521
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