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ConfederateSS wrote:----3 American Heros born a week apart through time in January...----
-----------In January, America and The SOUTH celebrates the birthdays of 3 of it's beloved sons. 1)Dr.Martin Luther King(Jan.15,1929),2)General Robert E. Lee(Jan.19,1807),and 3)General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson(Jan. 21,1824). It is nice to see these 3 names honored together in our politically correct society.
-----In fact, since Dr.King has achieved almost a righteous realm, while statues ,historical markers and historical references honoring the 2 Generals are desecrated and destroyed across The SOUTH. One wonders what Dr.King, who dreamed of a day when men would be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character, would say about such behavior.
-----Dr.King taught us to love, not hate those with who we disagree with. He showed us through peaceful protests and ultimately his death. That "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL",he deserves our HONOR.
-----Similary, decades after the cannons of The War Between the States fell silent. Men and women across The SOUTH(and America)still HONOR the memories of the 2 Generals as well. Today, many leftists denounce those HONORS, through juvenile name calling.
-----It is helpful to consider the character of these 2 Generals. Not through politically correct glasses that labels them as unrepentant racists, much as the left currently labels our President Donald J. Trump. It is the exact opposite. Lee and Jackson endeared themselves to Southerners(and Americans),because they were men of unquestionable character.
Bernie Sanders wrote:ConfederateSS wrote:----3 American Heros born a week apart through time in January...----
-----------In January, America and The SOUTH celebrates the birthdays of 3 of it's beloved sons. 1)Dr.Martin Luther King(Jan.15,1929),2)General Robert E. Lee(Jan.19,1807),and 3)General Thomas "Stonewall" Jackson(Jan. 21,1824). It is nice to see these 3 names honored together in our politically correct society.
-----In fact, since Dr.King has achieved almost a righteous realm, while statues ,historical markers and historical references honoring the 2 Generals are desecrated and destroyed across The SOUTH. One wonders what Dr.King, who dreamed of a day when men would be judged not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character, would say about such behavior.
-----Dr.King taught us to love, not hate those with who we disagree with. He showed us through peaceful protests and ultimately his death. That "ALL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL",he deserves our HONOR.
-----Similary, decades after the cannons of The War Between the States fell silent. Men and women across The SOUTH(and America)still HONOR the memories of the 2 Generals as well. Today, many leftists denounce those HONORS, through juvenile name calling.
-----It is helpful to consider the character of these 2 Generals. Not through politically correct glasses that labels them as unrepentant racists, much as the left currently labels our President Donald J. Trump. It is the exact opposite. Lee and Jackson endeared themselves to Southerners(and Americans),because they were men of unquestionable character.
How dare you compare Dr. King with 2 traitors who fought and murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans to maintain slavery.
...you may proceed...Now you joked in the other thread...Stonewall was shot by his own men...I think it was an oopsy at night,like Jackson himself as he forgave the soldier...But since, some did not like his Sunday school...One can now think...He gave his life as a martyr for more than people think...Was assassinated like Dr.King...The assassins used War and night time to get away with it...OOH!..something historians can think about....ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...Bernie Sanders wrote:You're not finished typing? I didn't see any signs on your first post that said under construction.
Bernie Sanders wrote:
How dare you compare Dr. King with 2 traitors who fought and murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans to maintain slavery.
patches70 wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:
How dare you compare Dr. King with 2 traitors who fought and murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans to maintain slavery.
They weren't traitor's, Bern. The South never tried to overthrow the US government, they simply wanted to secede. If you think that's traitorous then you have to condemn the California attempts at secession, for instance.
Early on it was always assumed that States had the right of secession. It wasn't until 1869 that the SCOTUS ever ruled anything about secession. Before that it was always assumed that States could leave the Union. Even in Texas vs White the SCOTUS though it ruled that States could not unilaterally secede, it did admit that secession was still possible consent of the States and/or through revolution.
Had the South won the Civil war it's secession would have therefor become legal through right of Revolution. The right of revolution is also argued as a natural law. Therefor, to simply claim "they were traitors" when all they were doing was exercising their own natural rights is basically a a cop out at best, disingenuous and most likely, in your case, just simple ignorance.
Bern, You are an ignorant POS. Basically.
Thankfully, Lincoln never viewed the South as traitors. Jefferson Davis was never charged with treason for example. No confederate officer or soldier or politician was ever executed for treason. In fact, the Union by law at the time did not jurisdiction to even charge confederates with treason, though there were a few attempts. Not many, though, and they pretty much went no where.
But what do you care about facts, right Bern?
So, in a nutshell, Lee, Jackson, they weren't traitors. You can try and label them as such, flying in the face of all facts and history, but it doesn't make your view any more true, Bern.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Bernie Sanders wrote:patches70 wrote:Bernie Sanders wrote:
How dare you compare Dr. King with 2 traitors who fought and murdered hundreds of thousands of Americans to maintain slavery.
They weren't traitor's, Bern. The South never tried to overthrow the US government, they simply wanted to secede. If you think that's traitorous then you have to condemn the California attempts at secession, for instance.
Early on it was always assumed that States had the right of secession. It wasn't until 1869 that the SCOTUS ever ruled anything about secession. Before that it was always assumed that States could leave the Union. Even in Texas vs White the SCOTUS though it ruled that States could not unilaterally secede, it did admit that secession was still possible consent of the States and/or through revolution.
Had the South won the Civil war it's secession would have therefor become legal through right of Revolution. The right of revolution is also argued as a natural law. Therefor, to simply claim "they were traitors" when all they were doing was exercising their own natural rights is basically a a cop out at best, disingenuous and most likely, in your case, just simple ignorance.
Bern, You are an ignorant POS. Basically.
Thankfully, Lincoln never viewed the South as traitors. Jefferson Davis was never charged with treason for example. No confederate officer or soldier or politician was ever executed for treason. In fact, the Union by law at the time did not jurisdiction to even charge confederates with treason, though there were a few attempts. Not many, though, and they pretty much went no where.
But what do you care about facts, right Bern?
So, in a nutshell, Lee, Jackson, they weren't traitors. You can try and label them as such, flying in the face of all facts and history, but it doesn't make your view any more true, Bern.
I view your views as not only treasonous and ignorant, but a dog whistle for segregationists.
Too bad Trump was not President back then! He would of hanged the entire Southern Aristocracy.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:Sherman should have brought more matches.
Neoteny wrote:Songs of dead children.
betiko wrote:Please spell heroes right in the title.
ConfederateSS wrote:Neoteny wrote:Sherman should have brought more matches.Neoteny wrote:Songs of dead children.
-------Lee or Jackson never attacked civilians or children........SHERMAN DID THOUGH...IN FACT HE MADE AN ART FORM OF DOING SO...A POINT TO DO SO...you might want to learn more. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Dukasaur wrote:saxitoxin wrote:taking medical advice from this creature; a morbidly obese man who is 100% convinced he willed himself into becoming a woman.
Your obsession with mrswdk is really sad.
ConfederateSS wrote:Just because people are idiots... Doesn't make them wrong.
betiko wrote:Please spell heroes right in the title.
DirtyDishSoap wrote:First, welcome back Neo.
2nd, don't bother arguing with our village idiot unless you're a masochist like me.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
Neoteny wrote:ConfederateSS wrote:Neoteny wrote:Sherman should have brought more matches.Neoteny wrote:Songs of dead children.
-------Lee or Jackson never attacked civilians or children........SHERMAN DID THOUGH...IN FACT HE MADE AN ART FORM OF DOING SO...A POINT TO DO SO...you might want to learn more. ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...
I'm talking about the soldiers; some being actual children but most barely being above eighteen. The poor go to fight the war, and the young are primarily sacrificed. All in the name of owning people. Same as it ever was.
It was a shitty thing and not to be glorified. Especially those in in gray who would destroy bodies and lives in the name of chattel.
Besides. Shermans tactics were a forefather of the American campaigns in Europe and Japan in the 1940s. We should be greatful for his wartime innovations. Right?
Right?
ConfederateSS wrote:-----WRONG...that is why he is not a man a Character like the ones I mentioned...That is what makes the Stars and Stripes the real flag of hate.
-----Mentioning Sherman...A person from Atlanta ,should know...The South still hasn't recovered from Sherman's march to the sea.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
armati wrote:Does anyone know of any army using a gray uniform that won a war?
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