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Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 6:06 am
by mrswdk
You are allowed to pick one human right for your country to enshrine the protection of in its legislature. Gogogo.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:47 am
by tkr4lf
I mean, I guess if I have to pick one, then its "The right to economic and physical security."

But ideally, both would be protected.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:49 am
by KoolBak
Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:06 am
by Dukasaur
The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:00 am
by mrswdk
KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


No, the first one is a government that provides everyone with economic and physical security.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:35 pm
by Thorthoth
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 4:58 pm
by waauw
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


Only in developed nations. The two options seem more like two pieces of a step-by-step plan to prosperity.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:00 pm
by waauw
KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a strong healthy jobs market.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:08 pm
by riskllama
Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.


So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.[/quote

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now... ;)

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 5:48 pm
by notyou2
The options are:

A. China

B. Not China

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:12 pm
by Thorthoth
riskllama wrote:
Thorthoth wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:The whole thing is a false dichotomy. You won't keep one very long without a reasonable quantity of the other. Nor can either be absolute. A reasonable balance with a good quantity of both protections is my goal.

So Duk, basically you want economic & physical security, AND personal freedom of speech and behavior, ...but only for your chosen few, just like on CC, right?
That is called oligarchy.

careful there, skip - it's them very same oligarchs that are standing between you and the permaban hammer right now... ;)

''Oh NO?!?" :lol: :lol: Hey, look bud, they might kill me but they won't turn me into a kow-towing mod whore like you.
I mean seriously llam, you should just get 'asskisser' tattooed on your forehead.

P.S. I fixed that quote box you screwed up too.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:18 pm
by armati
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2018 7:21 pm
by Thorthoth
armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E

Almost, the one truly inalienable right is the Right to Be Dissatisfied. Everything else is either a privilege or a crime, depending on P.O.V.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Tue Mar 13, 2018 12:31 am
by DoomYoshi
I'd be happy with the right to implement suggestions

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2018 1:11 am
by TA1LGUNN3R
armati wrote:YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS - George Carlin
https://youtu.be/hWiBt-pqp0E


Amen

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 9:35 pm
by gendotte
That is a Hobson's Choice. They are both vital.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 8:39 am
by theblackjesus
Why not both?

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 9:05 am
by mrswdk
theblackjesus wrote:Why not both?


Finally, the black Jesus has arrived on CC!

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:48 am
by riskllama
I suspect he's been here before, mrs... :-k

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 10:58 am
by mrswdk
You think it's the spirit of someone who died for our sins?

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 1:33 pm
by Neoteny
I am legit shocked that username was available.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2018 3:22 pm
by DirtyDishSoap
Neoteny wrote:I am legit shocked that username was available.

You'd think owen would have jumped on that name just so no one can have it.

I hope it's Bogan. Please be Bogan.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 2:47 pm
by gendotte
You can't have one without the other.

Re: Rights

PostPosted: Sun Apr 08, 2018 8:35 pm
by warmonger1981
waauw wrote:
KoolBak wrote:Wouldnt the first one be communism / socialism? Just wanna clarify....


Depends on how you interpret it. Basic economic security can also be accomplished through a MILITARY.





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