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armati wrote:Just wondering, does anyone here know whats happening in Syria?
Havnt seen any mention of it.
Here’s why I’m a sceptic. First, Assad has won. Supported by Russian airpower and Iranian/Hezbollah military advisers and soldiers, his forces are mopping up pockets of opposition. Bombing would not change that basic fact. It might prevent him using chemical weapons for a period. But Assad will continue to kill his own people using different means, such as barrel bombs.
Second, the Douma attack was the 34th recorded use of chemical weapons in Syria. At least two dozen attacks have been blamed by the UN on the regime. All but one have gone unpunished, and that punishment changed little.
That doesn’t make the use of chemical weapons OK. They are despicable weapons designed to spread fear. To win a war, you need to control territory and govern. Chemical weapons on civilian targets cause mass panic, forcing populations to flee, “weaponising” displaced persons, if you like. But let us be honest with ourselves, we are in danger of being seen to act now because we are reacting to a tweet.
The time to have acted was in 2013. Assad was weaker. Syrian opposition moderates had more sway. The Russians weren’t in the country. Shamefully, Labour’s leader, Ed Miliband (remember him?), tried to play politics with disastrous results. Parliament voted no.
Third, we are on weak ground, legally and physically. US, UK and French forces in Syria are not there at the invitation of the Assad regime, but to defeat Isis, which has been largely done. Assad’s is the legally recognised government, however much we wish it wasn’t. Assad, backed by Russia and Iran, will order the US and its allies out. Pressure will grow. We will have to leave anyway. When we do, Russia will claim it threw us out.
Dukasaur wrote:armati wrote:Just wondering, does anyone here know whats happening in Syria?
Havnt seen any mention of it.
Assad has won.
Dukasaur wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/apr/12/tory-mp-soldier-bombing-syria-assad-russiaHere’s why I’m a sceptic. First, Assad has won. Supported by Russian airpower and Iranian/Hezbollah military advisers and soldiers, his forces are mopping up pockets of opposition. Bombing would not change that basic fact. It might prevent him using chemical weapons for a period. But Assad will continue to kill his own people using different means, such as barrel bombs.
Second, the Douma attack was the 34th recorded use of chemical weapons in Syria. At least two dozen attacks have been blamed by the UN on the regime. All but one have gone unpunished, and that punishment changed little.
That doesn’t make the use of chemical weapons OK. They are despicable weapons designed to spread fear. To win a war, you need to control territory and govern. Chemical weapons on civilian targets cause mass panic, forcing populations to flee, “weaponising” displaced persons, if you like. But let us be honest with ourselves, we are in danger of being seen to act now because we are reacting to a tweet.
The time to have acted was in 2013. Assad was weaker. Syrian opposition moderates had more sway. The Russians weren’t in the country. Shamefully, Labour’s leader, Ed Miliband (remember him?), tried to play politics with disastrous results. Parliament voted no.
Third, we are on weak ground, legally and physically. US, UK and French forces in Syria are not there at the invitation of the Assad regime, but to defeat Isis, which has been largely done. Assad’s is the legally recognised government, however much we wish it wasn’t. Assad, backed by Russia and Iran, will order the US and its allies out. Pressure will grow. We will have to leave anyway. When we do, Russia will claim it threw us out.
armati wrote:1st, I dont understand this reposting. Just me I guess.
The Guardian article,
smells like horse poop......sorry guardian.
Duk, neat youve been honust and said "Havnt seen any mention of it."
The reason I asked is because there are US warships off the coast of syria right now with more on the way, France decided to join them as well as Britain. More subs and battleships and carriers on the way.
Russian fighters have been armed with anti ship missles, s300 and 400s are in place as well as 11 Russian warships and submarines.
British troops have been captured in e. ghouta by the syrian army.
Obviously the "chemical weapons" bs is just that....bs.
It is simply the excuse being used to invade.....not that it matters.
As the Russians,Iranians,Hezzbolah and Syria have lined up to repell...... the americans have changed their tune....now they wait for evidence of a chemical weapons attack.
A wonderful change of direction from "we dont need evidence"
Russia has been warning the west this could lead to nuclear confontation, China backs Syria as well.
We have never been closer to the destruction of our entire species INCLUDING the cuban crisis than we are today.
and........"Havnt seen any mention of it."
The west is not informing their people. Russians have been told to prepare for nuclear war.
Things that make ya go hmmmmm.
If ya want to follow, u tube southfront for updates and southfront.org for more in depth coverage.
u tube "Israeli news live" being the anti semite I am and all. lol
Also u tube "brother nathanial" more anti semitism, they are both jews in Israel.
They are NOT zionist scumbags.
Also, "syriangirl" u tube, she is phenominal, she knows just about everything, which country pays which set of "rebels" etc
by the way, there are no rebels, they are ALL mercenaries
She has been reporting on their plans etc for years.
Eva Bartlett a canadian independent reporter is good too. Can be sparadic tho.
Best updates as they happen is southfront.
Might be more coverage but thats the ones I follow.
armati wrote:I can say right now, I like the tin foil hat we are actually living in a matrix ruled by the lizaed people from planet nibaru stuff.
Infinately superior to the national enquirer.
But those american ships off the coast of syria are real, just as those russian fighter jets armed with anti ship missles are real.
What else is real, you heard no mention of it.
Which is what Ive been saying for awhile, our gov doesnt inform us and the rest of the time its lies. lol
armati wrote:If you havnt heard of Trump threatening action because of chemical weapons, you havnt been watching tv.
Dont blame ya tv is mostly crap but his threats are real, the meaning of them? I dunno.
armati wrote:This stuff I posted for anyone interested to follow isnt paranoid stuff, its simply reporting on whats happening.
Southfront for example is crowd funded.
They get funding because of their unbiased informed and factual reporting.
armati wrote:Just because it was handy.
Head of Russian Military Gerasimov Predicted Fake Syria Gassing 1 Month Ago!
https://youtu.be/LuPSvHbX3Ug
Less than a month later, on April 7, General Gerasimov’s prediction came true in Douma, Eastern Ghouta. Opposition reports fed by the White Helmets of an alleged chemical attack by government forces were almost immediately picked up by Western media, prompting the US and its allies to begin preparations for a possible military response.
A month ago, propoganda?trolling?kgb? or factual?
What it should tell people, the Russians have known this was coming for a month, think they prepared a bit?
Just sayin....its all good.
armati wrote:Why would Assad do a chemical attack knowing full well the americans threatened action
armati wrote:Pentagon says Syria strikes are 'one time shot' to send strong message to Assad From RT
You could be right Duk, "He has to bomb something to show what a big alpha male he is, but after the dust settles Assad and Putin will go back to business as usual"
I sure hope so.
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