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Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby The ram on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:30 pm

The present problem with what is called the " windrush generation" is at present all over the news. The BBC and ITN keep repeating that these people were invited to England. That's a lie!
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:21 am

The ram wrote:The present problem with what is called the " windrush generation" is at present all over the news. The BBC and ITN keep repeating that these people were invited to England. That's a lie!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_African-Caribbean_people
There was plenty of work in post-war Britain and industries such as British Rail, the National Health Service and public transport recruited almost exclusively from Jamaica and Barbados.


https://web.archive.org/web/20061006210211/http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateContent?CONTENT_ITEM_ID=2392&CONTENT_ITEM_TYPE=0&MENU_ID=0
"The greatest number of immigrants is undoubtedly from Jamaica and there are several important reasons for this fact. In the first place the economic situation in Jamaica has created much unemployment especially amongst the youth of the country. It is estimated that 40% of the population is under 21. The standard of living in consequence is very low, and glowing tales of prosperity in the Midlands have attracted those people who are able to gather the necessary passage money to the UK."

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As a result of recruiting schemes that were being conducted in the West Indies and Asia by the English during the 1950s and 60s some of the immigrants arrived in England with the prior knowledge that they would be certainly employed. The recruitment included jobs in areas such as health, transport, engineering, and bakeries (Black in Birmingham 1987). The following is an oral account from "Black in Birmingham" of an immigrant from Barbados who was recruited to work on the railways:

" In 1960 I was in charge of the Barbados police canteen. British Rail were recruiting in the West Indies at the time, and my superintendent said it would be a good experience to spend two years overseas before returning to train as an officer. So I went through the recruitment stages at the Barbados Labour Office, you had to take a test, write an essay on why you wanted to go to England and what you intended to do. Then there was a medical, and they checked that you didn't have a criminal record. At the end I was given a contract as a guard on the trains. They gave you a loan. You had to repay your fare over a period of two years.

I came to Britain in November, 1960, and the same night caught a train to Birmingham. I arrived at old Snow Hill at 4 a.m. As I got off the train a guy on the platform said, 'You are from Barbados', and I said 'Yes', and he said, 'Well you've the same contract and he was pushed into being a porter at Snow Hill.

I think about a week after being sent to Leamington to do my training as a shunter it really sunk in. Shunting is dangerous, and if you are training to be a shunter and you make a mistake, then the train is going to run over. I felt I had let myself down. I just came from a cushy little number at home - my clothes had never been dirty, and I'd had all my freedom." ( Black in Birmingham 1987 p. 14).

The following is an oral account of how people were recruited from the Punjab to work in Birmingham cited in Black in Birmingham:

" I remember when I was ten or eleven, it would have been in the early 60's. This was in the Punjab. There were big notices and signs and boards up on the walls in prominent positions in the village asking people to come and work in England. You had to go and see the agent about it. They were advertising secure jobs. I remember one was from one of the foundries. The agents would be in the town and they would have a person like a sub-agent in the village.

A number of people went to England that way. The other way was if you had someone in your family who was already working in industry. They would be given vouchers by their company so they could sponsor people. It helped the personnel officers because they had a ready made market of people who would come over to fill the jobs." ( Black in Birmingham 1987 p. 13).

As the British industries continued to grow and the need for manual workers increased some Asian seamen chose to relinquish their jobs and seek employment in Birmingham's industries.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby mrswdk on Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:43 am

Don't forget, Duk. Wikipedia is owned by the same (((people))) as the BBC and ITN.
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Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:43 am

Under the law at the time, these people were British citizens.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby The ram on Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:19 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Under the law at the time, these people were British citizens.


Very true after the 1948 nationality act. They were never invited though. In fact Clement Attlee received a letter from 12 Labour MP's worried about social cohesion. And Attlee dismissed the migration as a one off.


Later some were invited by the racist Enoch Powell to work in the NHS. Very strange
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Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:03 pm

The ram wrote:They were never invited though.


Actually, there were recruitment posters all over the colonies asking people to come help rebuild Britain.
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Postby nietzsche on Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:11 pm

They were never invited though.
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Postby mrswdk on Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:17 pm

nietzsche wrote:They were never invited though.


Some were invited by the racist Enoch Powell to work in the NHS. Very strange.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby Neoteny on Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:20 pm

Very strange.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby Dukasaur on Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:25 pm

Penny Lane is in my ears and in my eyes...
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby The ram on Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:27 pm

Dukasaur wrote:
The ram wrote:They were never invited though.


Actually, there were recruitment posters all over the colonies asking people to come help rebuild Britain.


I'm sure there'll be a copy of said poster from 1948? British archives of correspondence between Clement Attlee and other MP's prove that there was no poster campaign. Would you like I prove it or are you going to leave your education to Wikipedia?
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby armati on Tue May 01, 2018 12:37 am

Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Conan O'Brien EXPOSES our PHONY FAKE NEWS SCRIPTED MAINSTREAM Media.
https://youtu.be/PLXQ0qbq6jY?list=RDALYGL4fnnPc

A Brief History of Government Control of the Mainstream Media (Evidence & Examples)
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby Dukasaur on Tue May 01, 2018 6:38 am

The ram wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
The ram wrote:They were never invited though.


Actually, there were recruitment posters all over the colonies asking people to come help rebuild Britain.


I'm sure there'll be a copy of said poster from 1948? British archives of correspondence between Clement Attlee and other MP's prove that there was no poster campaign. Would you like I prove it or are you going to leave your education to Wikipedia?

https://www.ourmigrationstory.org.uk/oms/london-on-the-move-west-indian-transport-workers
The London Transport Establishment (Human Resources) Officer, Charles Gomm, set up a recruitment office in Bridgetown, the capital of Barbados. Information about the London Transport scheme appeared in local newspapers and poster campaigns and was advertised on the radio. Recruitment began to happen on a regular basis and it became common knowledge amongst the island's small population. Applicants from Barbados recall being interviewed and answering a long list of questions, after which they were required to pass a written test and a medical before being taken on.

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(Charles Gomm, Recruitment officer for London Transport, with some early applicants in Barbados, 1956. Courtesy of London Transport Museum, ref. 1998/83757)

The majority of those hired were male, but women were also taken on to become bus conductors, station staff and canteen workers. London Transportā€™s policy was to only employ single people, not couples or families. In reality, a number of Barbadian recruits were already parents and many children were left behind to be looked after by grandparents and other family members.

Single mothers described difficulties in bringing their children to join them in Britain, for reasons including financial difficulties, long hours and red tape. As with other similar recruitment schemes run by the National Health Service and British Rail, the Barbados government lent recruits the fare to travel. This was then paid back over two years.

London Transport's direct recruitment schemes from the Caribbean continued until 1970, by which time the Commonwealth Immigration Acts of 1962 and 1968 ā€“ which were designed to limit immigration to Britain ā€“ had reduced the numbers of Caribbean people arriving. Nevertheless, over 4,000 workers from the Caribbean were recruited onto the scheme.

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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby nietzsche on Tue May 01, 2018 9:26 am

Do you have witnesses? First hand witnesses.

Were you there?
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Postby mrswdk on Tue May 01, 2018 9:44 am

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The portraits are one highlight among a wide-ranging showcase of some of the earliest photographs in existence of black and Asian actors and musicians, diplomats and dancers, labourers and politicians living in Britain


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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby The ram on Tue May 01, 2018 10:35 am

Universities are a hotbed for socialism. The guardian I'd fully expect to lie.

You can go on YouTube and find some of the original people. You can also find the letter sent by 12 Labour MP's whilst empire windrush was still sailing towards Tilbury, and Attlee's response. I think you people are so strongly programmed that you wouldn't believe the truth if it was rammed down your throats.

This thread is not about race but I know you will have automatically jumped to that conclusion. It's about proving how the modern media moulds history to fit their socialist ideology. It's also to show you what socialism is all about.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby mrswdk on Tue May 01, 2018 10:50 am

When a British person starts railing against 'socialism', you know they spend way too much time reading up on American politics.
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Postby Neoteny on Tue May 01, 2018 11:51 am

Very strange.
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Postby armati on Tue May 01, 2018 12:00 pm

@ram
" It's about proving how the modern media moulds history to fit their socialist ideology. It's also to show you what socialism is all about."
Impressive ram, by saying that I know accusations of kgb conspiracy theory spying aliens etc might happen, but what the heck I'll chance it. lol

I just read some Martin Luther where he addresses the cause of our direction, Im not going to post it, we dont want anyone knowing he was a russian spy too.

This move to socialism has been going on now since the early 1900s, an interesting story.

Too bad it only works until you run out of other peoples money.
Capitalism doesnt seem to be any better, not if you take into account the destruction it creates.

We have to decide on democracy,dictatorship,republic etc as well. Which also dont seem to work.

I think we need a new system, Ive read the discussions of the different systems through out history and I think the system we need hasnt been thought of yet.

Somebody has got to come up with a workable alternative sooner or later.
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Postby mrswdk on Tue May 01, 2018 12:34 pm

Neoteny wrote:Very strange.


That's why they were never invited.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby The ram on Sun May 13, 2018 5:23 am

http://socialdemocracy21stcentury.blogs ... o.html?m=1

Decide for yourself if they were invited. I'll supply links to interviews with original windrush passengers if you want full clarification
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Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun May 13, 2018 6:09 am

I'm sending out invitations.
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Re: Mainstream media news lies ( you can prove)

Postby Donelladan on Sun May 13, 2018 7:22 am

The ram wrote:The present problem with what is called the " windrush generation" is at present all over the news. The BBC and ITN keep repeating that these people were invited to England. That's a lie!



Does is matter ?
Even if they weren't invited, you are speaking of people living in the UK since more than 50 years. After 50 years living in the country do you find it normal to kick them out for no reason ?

You claim they weren't "invited", why do you think they came to UK in the first place ? Better weather ?
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