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Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby Symmetry on Sun Jun 03, 2018 5:20 am

So, I like making chilli con carne. These are the things that I have learned:

Good advice:

Adding a bit of cinnamon
Adding some squares of dark chocolate
Adding a splash of red wine vinegar

Bad advice:

Adding coffee, especially instant coffee
Listening to Texans on making "real" chilli
Underestimating the power of a chilli pepper based on its size

Anyone else have any tips on making a good chilli?
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Postby KoolBak on Sun Jun 03, 2018 10:36 am

I only use my homemade tomato/veggie sauce that has a bit of a kick as the base. Been perfecting the recipe for 20+ years ;o) Want me to send ya some? :D

I like to use high end ground beef (wagyu, etc...wife gets it cheap at work) and jimmy dean sausage with a nice mix of various beans.

Know several people that have elaborate recipes that include all kinds of meat, seafood and bizarre shit. Gets overpowered IMHO.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Jun 03, 2018 11:35 am

KoolBak wrote:I only use my homemade tomato/veggie sauce that has a bit of a kick as the base. Been perfecting the recipe for 20+ years ;o) Want me to send ya some? :D

I like to use high end ground beef (wagyu, etc...wife gets it cheap at work) and jimmy dean sausage with a nice mix of various beans.

Know several people that have elaborate recipes that include all kinds of meat, seafood and bizarre shit. Gets overpowered IMHO.

Adding sausage to the beef is delicious. I prefer kidney beans, but adding other beans is a good choice. I grow my own tomatoes and it's a must in any good chili.

Please, no sea critters in chili.
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Postby jonesthecurl on Sun Jun 03, 2018 12:15 pm

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KoolBak wrote:I only use my homemade tomato/veggie sauce that has a bit of a kick as the base. Been perfecting the recipe for 20+ years ;o) Want me to send ya some? :D

I like to use high end ground beef (wagyu, etc...wife gets it cheap at work) and jimmy dean sausage with a nice mix of various beans.

Know several people that have elaborate recipes that include all kinds of meat, seafood and bizarre shit. Gets overpowered IMHO.

Adding sausage to the beef is delicious. I prefer kidney beans, but adding other beans is a good choice. I grow my own tomatoes and it's a must in any good chili.

Please, no sea critters in chili.


Actually, adding a couple of anchovies isn't a terrible idea. They dissolve completely, and add a nice bit of salt. NOTE: make sure nobody who's eating it is allergic to seafood...
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby KoolBak on Sun Jun 03, 2018 1:31 pm

Silly Brits....

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Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:18 pm

I guess I'm a Brit now...

damn.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby Maxleod on Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:00 pm

I rarely eat chili con carne, but when I do it's with rice. Is it a crime?
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Postby Dukasaur on Sun Jun 03, 2018 7:02 pm

Maxleod wrote:I rarely eat chili con carne, but when I do it's with rice. Is it a crime?


It's only a crime if you cook the rice in the chili. (Makes the rice soggy).

As long as you cook the rice separately (so it remains al dente) and pour the chili over top, that's normal.
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Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:28 am

Dukasaur wrote:
Maxleod wrote:I rarely eat chili con carne, but when I do it's with rice. Is it a crime?


It's only a crime if you cook the rice in the chili. (Makes the rice soggy).

As long as you cook the rice separately (so it remains al dente) and pour the chili over top, that's normal.

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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby jonesthecurl on Mon Jun 04, 2018 2:29 am

KoolBak wrote:Silly Brits....

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Try it.
Not a Brit thing. It was suggested to me by a Mexican.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby KoolBak on Mon Jun 04, 2018 9:48 am

A canook bro is the one that puts scallops and all kind shoit in his :lol: Old dog, well, you get it.

Big dish for locals in hawaii is Chili-mac....chili mixed with mac n cheese. I'm all over that...hell, even the Chef likes it!!

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....like the rice idea too.
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Postby Symmetry on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:02 pm

I'm also in favour of adding other beans to a chili- I find white canellini work best in addition to kidney beans.

Rice or jacket potato for me with chili though. Sym's recipe for perfect jacket potatoes:

1) Poke some holes in the potato with a fork and microwave them wrapped in paper towels for 4 minutes or so. After two minutes, turn them over.
2) Rub them with olive oil and heavily salt them, plus whatever else you like on crispy potato skins- I usually add pepper and smoked paprika
3) Put a metal skewer through them (it seems to help conduct heat to the centre of the potato)
4) Put in oven.

Microwaving is less a tip, but it reduces the time in the oven. Make sure you're using a decent floury potato though- Maris piper or King Edward in the UK work well.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby mookiemcgee on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:22 pm

Roast some of the peppers before adding to enhance the natural flavor, but add some raw too for enhanced spice as roasting will tone down the spice level.

Depending on what peppers are available to you, sweeter types like new mexico 'green chillis', anahiem chillis, and pablanos are great for roasting. Then add jalapenos or spider peppers raw for the spice kick.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby Symmetry on Mon Jun 04, 2018 10:30 pm

mookiemcgee wrote:Roast some of the peppers before adding to enhance the natural flavor, but add some raw too for enhanced spice as roasting will tone down the spice level.

Depending on what peppers are available to you, sweeter types like new mexico 'green chillis', anahiem chillis, and pablanos are great for roasting. Then add jalapenos or spider peppers raw for the spice kick.


That sounds excellent. I usually add some chipotle flakes, but that sounds much better.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby KoolBak on Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:44 am

My veggie sauce I mentioned always has some varieties of peppers from our garden. Planted over 20 this year with several new types.

Sym, I make baked potatos all the time just to have as well as eat fresh baked, as they make excellent base for hashbrowns, cubed, waffles, whatever. I do not micro; just rub with a combo of garlic and basil or rosemary olive oils (son manages this store while he's waiting to graduate from his school https://www.oilerie.com/beaverton.html?Affiliate=beaverton - I've turned into a total olive oil snob....lmao) and rub with a combo of spices, bake at 400 til right. Skin is the best damn part.
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Postby Symmetry on Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:53 am

KoolBak wrote:My veggie sauce I mentioned always has some varieties of peppers from our garden. Planted over 20 this year with several new types.

Sym, I make baked potatos all the time just to have as well as eat fresh baked, as they make excellent base for hashbrowns, cubed, waffles, whatever. I do not micro; just rub with a combo of garlic and basil or rosemary olive oils (son manages this store while he's waiting to graduate from his school https://www.oilerie.com/beaverton.html?Affiliate=beaverton - I've turned into a total olive oil snob....lmao) and rub with a combo of spices, bake at 400 til right. Skin is the best damn part.


Just to be clear- you bake them and then make hashbrowns and other stuff out of them?

I'm with you on the oil- other oils are better for other things, but you want olive oil to burn off and stick the coating.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby KoolBak on Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:16 am

Yes, I will bake about 10...eat x number hot with fam and refrigerate the rest. Then, shred them for hashbrowns, cube them to fry with say polish sausage, smash then up to use in waffle iron, slice to bake as chips, etc :D
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby tzor on Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:19 am

jonesthecurl wrote:Actually, adding a couple of anchovies isn't a terrible idea. They dissolve completely, and add a nice bit of salt. NOTE: make sure nobody who's eating it is allergic to seafood...


Or you could just Worcestershire sauce. Never thought of it in chili as it tends to take the spice in a different direction.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby jonesthecurl on Tue Jun 05, 2018 12:54 pm

tzor wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Actually, adding a couple of anchovies isn't a terrible idea. They dissolve completely, and add a nice bit of salt. NOTE: make sure nobody who's eating it is allergic to seafood...


Or you could just Worcestershire sauce. Never thought of it in chili as it tends to take the spice in a different direction.


Yes, that's good too. Just a few drops.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby tzor on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:06 am

I think the most important thing in the chili con carne is the "carne" ... the meat.

Now if I was still an active hunter, I would suggest venison (although if that doe keeps knocking the seed out of my bird feeder I might just hunt her down with my bare hands).

But since I have a farm nearby, Bison is a good alternative. The bison restaurant has a great bison chili.
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:23 am

Does the Bison restaurant have a website?
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Postby tzor on Thu Jun 07, 2018 11:28 am

2dimes wrote:Does the Bison restaurant have a website?


But of course ... Tweeds Restaurant and Buffalo Bar
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Re: Making a good chilli con carne- the thread

Postby Bernie Sanders on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:10 pm

Bison steak is excellent!
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Postby 2dimes on Thu Jun 07, 2018 12:54 pm

That place looks incredible, I'm guessing I can't afford to go there.
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