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notyou2 wrote:This thread is about occupations of great grandfathers, not for blossoming bromances.
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
The ram wrote:My great grandad was a hard drinking seaman from Tyneside. My other great grandad was a navvi from the Wirral. Good working class northern stock!
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
nietzsche wrote:unless.. unless one of your great grandparent is in both sides of the family?
think about it.. karel.. rings a bell?
Symmetry wrote:The ram wrote:Symmetry wrote:notyou2 wrote:What did your great great grandfather do?
Weird that you asked this in the singular...
Wasn't your great grandad Emily pankhurst?
I wish! However, I am one of the many people who have more than one great great grandad (and indeed great grandads). I am also one of the many people who don't have Emily Pankhurst as a great grandfather.
The Ram- how do you feel about kids having two granddads? How about two dads?
notyou2 wrote:What did your great great grandfather do?
thegreekdog wrote:Speaking of rules of this thread, it's maybe worth mentioning how great grandparents work...
(1) There's you
(2) There's your mother and father
(3a) There's your mother's mother and father (your maternal grandmother and maternal grandfather)
(3b) There's your father's mother and father (your paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather)
Let's pause here - each of you had two grandmothers and two grandfathers.
(4a) There's your maternal grandmother's mother and father (your maternal great grandmother and maternal great grandfather)
(4b) There's your maternal grandfather's mother and father (your maternal great grandmother and maternal great grandfather)
(4c) There's your paternal grandmother's mother and father (your paternal great grandmother and paternal great grandfather)
(4d) There's your paternal grandfather's mother and father (your paternal great grandmother and paternal great grandfather)
So we all have four great grandfathers.
saxitoxin wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Speaking of rules of this thread, it's maybe worth mentioning how great grandparents work...
(1) There's you
(2) There's your mother and father
(3a) There's your mother's mother and father (your maternal grandmother and maternal grandfather)
(3b) There's your father's mother and father (your paternal grandmother and paternal grandfather)
Let's pause here - each of you had two grandmothers and two grandfathers.
(4a) There's your maternal grandmother's mother and father (your maternal great grandmother and maternal great grandfather)
(4b) There's your maternal grandfather's mother and father (your maternal great grandmother and maternal great grandfather)
(4c) There's your paternal grandmother's mother and father (your paternal great grandmother and paternal great grandfather)
(4d) There's your paternal grandfather's mother and father (your paternal great grandmother and paternal great grandfather)
So we all have four great grandfathers.
But we have eight great great grandfathers.
demonfork wrote:Symmetry wrote:The ram wrote:Symmetry wrote:notyou2 wrote:What did your great great grandfather do?
Weird that you asked this in the singular...
Wasn't your great grandad Emily pankhurst?
I wish! However, I am one of the many people who have more than one great great grandad (and indeed great grandads). I am also one of the many people who don't have Emily Pankhurst as a great grandfather.
The Ram- how do you feel about kids having two granddads? How about two dads?
Having 2 dads in better than being an orphan.... Like this gay couple.... What an incredible thing that they did for these children...
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/el ... cda917f9a5
That said, there is no substitute for having a Mom & a Dad.
P & M > P & P
thegreekdog wrote:I think there is some evidence that having two parents (regardless of gender) is better than having one (and certainly none). Anecdotally, my kids are always better behaved and adjusted when both my wife and I are around and involved than when one of us is not.
riskllama wrote:Koolbak wins this thread.
KoolBak wrote:Oot of curiosity, EL, how do YOU pronounce Missouri, phonetically? Ending with "eeee" or "uh"?
Having never been there or having exposure to anyone from there, I see and say "eeee". When I get a customer call from there, they always say "uh", which I assume is correct for natives. Much like people pronouncing Oregon "Or-eee'-GONE" which pisses us off
(sorry....not meaning to derail....just curious)
elfish_lad wrote:thegreekdog wrote:I think there is some evidence that having two parents (regardless of gender) is better than having one (and certainly none). Anecdotally, my kids are always better behaved and adjusted when both my wife and I are around and involved than when one of us is not.
I could not agree more. I was a headmaster of a private school in the Greater Vancouver Area for 7 years. We worked with a wide variety of families. Without a doubt, two-parent families are ideal and balanced, unless there is abuse, then all bets are off. I’ll also add, more towards the spirit of this thread, that solid adult support from grandparents, especially within families who were new to the country or where there was recent trauma, was amazing.
Both of my great, great grandfathers were immigrant farmers. One new to the states from Germany who worked on a farm in Nebraska, and the other from Switzerland who was on a farm in Missouri.
thegreekdog wrote:I don't think anyone was suggesting that orphans or one-parent children couldn't succeed and I don't think anyone was suggesting anything about privilege (although I suppose two parent families could be considered privileged relative to orphans or one-parent families).
elfish_lad wrote:Wow. You totally misrepresented my intent.
It wasn’t a selective private school. It was a government funded international school that worked primarily with immigrant familys with an expanded mandate to work with... wait for it... wait for it... troubled and broken families. And if you think for one single minute educators should pretend a child’s family doesn’t have an impact on their education and that an educator should ignore that? Then you would never teach on my staff.
Two (or a number greater than 1) is clearly, proven as the ideal. For the parent as well as child. Single parents, with zero help, are amazing. And get tired. And worn down. And have no one to bounce things of off. The child? Also, clearly better off with greater support. Clearly. Not my opinion.
And I was actually challenging a bit that the only healthy family for a child is a two parent family.
Take yourself important glasses off and patricapate in a conversation with others for a change. Sorry I even posted in this thread.
Done with you.
E.
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