Conquer Club

patches70 wrote:

HitRed wrote:The batman comic was funny!

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

Symmetry wrote:Oh no- a second rate dictionary definition post!

Seriously though, even your Webster Americanisms reconcile democracies and republics.

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

thegreekdog wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Oh no- a second rate dictionary definition post!

Seriously though, even your Webster Americanisms reconcile democracies and republics.

Yes, that's what I posted it.

TA1LGUNN3R wrote:

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

"...and to the republic, for which it stands..."

Symmetry wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

Symmetry wrote:Oh no- a second rate dictionary definition post!

Seriously though, even your Webster Americanisms reconcile democracies and republics.

Yes, that's what I posted it.

Of course, TGD. Glad we're agreed.

Neoteny wrote:"in a modern context, the term “democratic socialism” really only exists to imply that there is a socialism that is democratic (good) & a socialism that abhors democracy (bad) to further the notion that those who desire seizure of the means of production (ie radicals) hate freedom. one of the biggest draws of socialism is its promotion of truly participatory, deliberative democracy as opposed to the oligarchical nature of bourgeois representative democracy, and claiming the former is actually anti-democratic serves only to preserve the latter."

Get your shit together Bernie.

Neoteny wrote:That first paragraph is a mess. Why anyone would look to Forbes for a reasonable discussion of socialism is beyond me. It's like seeing James Comey giving election advice to Democrats. It's not in good faith, and, even if it were, he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about.

Neoteny wrote:That first paragraph is a mess. Why anyone would look to Forbes for a reasonable discussion of socialism is beyond me. It's like seeing James Comey giving election advice to Democrats. It's not in good faith, and, even if it were, he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about.

Dukasaur wrote:

Neoteny wrote:That first paragraph is a mess. Why anyone would look to Forbes for a reasonable discussion of socialism is beyond me. It's like seeing James Comey giving election advice to Democrats. It's not in good faith, and, even if it were, he clearly doesn't have a fucking clue what he's talking about.

Forbes is a good, even-handed site. But yeah, this particular article is terrible. All the same old lies conflating socialism with communism.

Neoteny wrote:Even-handed is a stretch. They're, like, mid-right with an interest in maintaining the neoliberal status quo. They aren't Breitbart, but they aren't even-handed.

thegreekdog wrote:I think center-right is probably even-handed given alternatives.

Neoteny wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:I think center-right is probably even-handed given alternatives.

What a weird perspective.

thegreekdog wrote:

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government
b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government
c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit the French Fourth Republic

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

a : government by the people; especially : rule of the majority
b : a government in which the supreme power is vested in the people and exercised by them directly or indirectly through a system of representation usually involving periodically held free elections

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/democracy

a (1) : a government having a chief of state who is not a monarch and who in modern times is usually a president (2) : a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government
b (1) : a government in which supreme power resides in a body of citizens entitled to vote and is exercised by elected officers and representatives responsible to them and governing according to law (2) : a political unit (such as a nation) having such a form of government
c : a usually specified republican government of a political unit the French Fourth Republic

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/republic

Rome was a republic, and you got elected by being filthy rich and/or having connections.

On second thought, that does sound like the USA. Carry on.

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

HitRed wrote:

Symmetry wrote:If only Batman could do that to right wing idiots who argue that the US "isn't a democracy, it's a republic" too...

Tonight San Antonio is having our bat festival Bat Loco where I'll be found sitting in a reproduction Batmobile.