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Wind Power: Negative Effect on Global Warming in the Short T

Postby tzor on Sat Oct 13, 2018 10:01 am

Note: It's Saturday and I'm bored. So I decided to check out the Canada Free Press ...

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However, a Harvard study raises questions about just how much wind should be part of a climate solution. Researchers report that a high amount of wind power could mean more climate warming at least regionally and in the immediate decades ahead. The paper raises serious questions about just how much the United States or other nations should look to wind power to clean up electricity systems.

Researcher report that the transition to wind or solar power in the US would require five to twenty times more land than previously thought, and if such large scale wind farms were built, would warm average surface temperatures over the continental US by 0.24 degrees C. 2

The temperature rise is due to the fact that wind turbines redistribute heat in the atmosphere. This could significantly exceed the reduction in US warming achieved by decarbonizing the nation’s electricity sector this century, which would be around 0.1 C. 1

At least 10 previous studies have observed local warming caused by US wind farms. 3

In previous research, David Keith and co-authors modeled the generating capacity of large scale wind farms and concluded that real world wind power generation had been overestimated because they had neglected to accurately account for the interactions between turbines and the atmosphere. 4


And because it's a quote with citations ...

  1. James Temple, “Wide scale US wind power could cause significant warming,” October 4, 2018
  2. Lee M. Miller and David W. Keith, “Climatic impacts of wind power,” October 4, 2018
  3. Nick Arne, “In the short term, wind power could hike global warming,” October 5, 2018
  4. Leah Burrows, “Harvard: wind power will create significant warming of 0.24 C plus eat up 5 to 20 times more land than thought,” October 4, 2018
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Re: Wind Power: Negative Effect on Global Warming in the Sho

Postby spurgistan on Tue Oct 16, 2018 2:52 pm

tzor wrote:Note: It's Saturday and I'm bored. So I decided to check out the Canada Free Press ...

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However, a Harvard study raises questions about just how much wind should be part of a climate solution. Researchers report that a high amount of wind power could mean more climate warming at least regionally and in the immediate decades ahead. The paper raises serious questions about just how much the United States or other nations should look to wind power to clean up electricity systems.

Researcher report that the transition to wind or solar power in the US would require five to twenty times more land than previously thought, and if such large scale wind farms were built, would warm average surface temperatures over the continental US by 0.24 degrees C. 2

The temperature rise is due to the fact that wind turbines redistribute heat in the atmosphere. This could significantly exceed the reduction in US warming achieved by decarbonizing the nation’s electricity sector this century, which would be around 0.1 C. 1

At least 10 previous studies have observed local warming caused by US wind farms. 3

In previous research, David Keith and co-authors modeled the generating capacity of large scale wind farms and concluded that real world wind power generation had been overestimated because they had neglected to accurately account for the interactions between turbines and the atmosphere. 4


And because it's a quote with citations ...

  1. James Temple, “Wide scale US wind power could cause significant warming,” October 4, 2018
  2. Lee M. Miller and David W. Keith, “Climatic impacts of wind power,” October 4, 2018
  3. Nick Arne, “In the short term, wind power could hike global warming,” October 5, 2018
  4. Leah Burrows, “Harvard: wind power will create significant warming of 0.24 C plus eat up 5 to 20 times more land than thought,” October 4, 2018


The last two citations don't seem to work. Kinda silly to include citation links if you cant make em clicky, no? To be clear I know that's the article not you.

in the article, which mostly argues that we should be focusing more on solar than on wind, which the market is pushing us towards anyways, they argue that the model in which you would see climate-scale temperature changes in the short term is at a level of wind power that is degrees more what is currently imaginable. Plus, assuming humans are going to be on Earth past 10 years, long-term impacts are rather important.
tldr, as the article points out solar is probably the best energy source, but wind's fine as long as you don't build enough together to have a short-term weather disruption.
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Re: Wind Power: Negative Effect on Global Warming in the Sho

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Oct 16, 2018 9:01 pm

Interesting article. What if we put giant A/C units on the propellers to cool the wind as it passes? :)
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