Conquer Club

HitRed wrote:Talking about the UPU isn't sexy but it is important so keep reading.

Most people have never heard of this group but I and most business owners viciously hate it.

Simply put if a box ships from (example) China to New York postage is $2.70. That same box going the opposite way from New York to China is $10.00. If I receive that same box from China in Texas and ship it to New York my postage cost is $7.00. Wow, is the world getting a deal!

Last year the USPS was 170 MILLION in the red. That loss is paid by the US tax payer year after year.

Our historic trade deal writers sucked eggs.

Please keep in mind China is the second largest economy in the world. Shouldn't it already be paying the same rate we do?

This isn't fair at all. Time for a rewrite.

HitRed wrote:Please keep in mind China is the second largest economy in the world. Shouldn't it already be paying the same rate we do?

HitRed wrote:Talking about the UPU isn't sexy but it is important so keep reading.

Most people have never heard of this group but I and most business owners viciously hate it.

Simply put if a box ships from (example) China to New York postage is $2.70. That same box going the opposite way from New York to China is $10.00. If I receive that same box from China in Texas and ship it to New York my postage cost is $7.00. Wow, is the world getting a deal!

Last year the USPS was 170 MILLION in the red. That loss is paid by the US tax payer year after year.

Our historic trade deal writers sucked eggs.

Please keep in mind China is the second largest economy in the world. Shouldn't it already be paying the same rate we do?

This isn't fair at all. Time for a rewrite.

The history of the UPU since 1969 has largely been a war of position over who wins and who loses on terminal dues. Ongoing postal liberalization since the 1980s has added another twist—because terminal dues rates were only available to designated national postal services, keeping them low became a way of excluding private couriers like FedEx and DHL from parts of the mail market, including parts where they could have offered big cost savings over national posts. Broadly, this has led to the USPS and its allies in low-cost and developing systems supporting unnaturally low terminal dues, while more internationally competitive and high-cost systems like Germany and Norway advocate a system that recognizes real costs. The low-cost side has generally been successful—sometimes too much so. One draft UPU agreement—known as REIMS—was officially deemed an attempt at price-fixing by the European Commission, and had to be re-drafted.

HitRed wrote:"Our historic trade deal writers sucked eggs."

It good to have more details. I did put the onus for the problem on the US.

HitRed

Dukasaur wrote:The ridiculously low prices charged to Pacific Rim nations were negotiated in 2011 at the insistence of the US.

HitRed wrote:"Our historic trade deal writers sucked eggs."

HitRed wrote:Duka, can you post a link about the 2011 postal agreement? I'll search all over about Obama and the Pacific Rim and couldn't locate it.

Pacific Rim nations were negotiated in 2011 at the insistence of the US.