French President on Verge of Being Violently Overthrown

[DoomYoshi]

It's the cup Jesus drank from at the last supper. In America we call it the Holy Grail.

[armati]

waauw

I am not kidding myself that it is a civil war.

I dont think you got what was said.

"numerous SATIRICAL and parody Twitter accounts mimiking MSM-style approaches to cover what they call “the French Civil War”.

They are laughing at the way western msm covers issues.
Nobody actually believes there is a civil war happening in France.

Some people did believe there was a civil war in Syria tho. Thus the satire.

[The ram]

Why are you explaining yourself to him? The average 10 year old would have understood that headline and not thought you actually thought there was a civil war in France.

The truth in a nutshell is that the left don't really like it when they have to pay for the lefts policies. His version of events that it's the extreme left and extreme right working together to protest the election result is just msm globalist dog dirt. The election was 20 months ago, that means they've had 2 summers to organise a big protest but strangely enough they waited until the winter after Macron had introduced fuel price rises.

Of course I'm not going to deny that there would have been some extremists amongst the crowds but this is basically the working class protesting about the standard of living, and it's spreading across western Europe.

The guy you're talking to is either extremely rich or very easily manipulated.

[waauw]

Why are you explaining yourself to him? The average 10 year old would have understood that headline and not thought you actually thought there was a civil war in France.

The truth in a nutshell is that the left don't really like it when they have to pay for the lefts policies. His version of events that it's the extreme left and extreme right working together to protest the election result is just msm globalist dog dirt. The election was 20 months ago, that means they've had 2 summers to organise a big protest but strangely enough they waited until the winter after Macron had introduced fuel price rises.

Of course I'm not going to deny that there would have been some extremists amongst the crowds but this is basically the working class protesting about the standard of living, and it's spreading across western Europe.

The guy you're talking to is either extremely rich or very easily manipulated.

They did organize large protests against Macron from the beginning. The Gilets Jaunes weren't the first ones. Past protests were usually the left wing protesting against his right wing economic policies. This time however, the Gilets Jaunes are mostly just the far left and far right.

Also, I'm a right wing voter myself and I simply have a very hard time with things like sarcasm and exagerated absurdities. I barely get them in real life, I don't get them at all online. That has absolutely nothing to do with left wing-right wing.

You know maybe that stomme belg is on to something. Yeah it could be the extreme left and extreme right working together to protest the election result. I mean the election was only 20 months ago, and I think you'll find that the left leaning voters were told to vote for Macron. Or am I wrong?

The left wing were told to vote for Macron, as center was the better option over far-right Le Pen. However, Mélenchon the communist did not endorse Macron. Many of his voters either didn't show up or voted blank. Overall the feeling in France since Macron's election has been that Macron actually betrayed the left with right wing economic policies such as prepping the privatization of public transport, lowering taxes on businesses and weakening the power of the unions. Hence the many left wing protests against him from the start.

The Gilets Jaunes, as I mentioned before, are the exception. These are mostly far-right and far-left people. Taxes on fuel are an idea the center-left supported during Hollande's presidency. You have to realize these protests aren't even anti-Macron specific, though he is getting the burn for being the sitting president. The protests are anti-establishment. Many of the policies being protested against weren't even implemented by Macron, but by his predessors.

The stomme belg refers to the left coming out in force because Belgium made a coalition government with the Flemish nationalists, again a show that these Soros sponsored mongoloids can't accept democracy.

Soros has absolutely nothing to do with Belgium. This isn't Hungary. And the protests weren't anti-NVA specific. We just had the first government in over two decades without any socialist participation. That's what they protested against. The unions got used to getting their way. They didn't get it this time.

[tzor]

The rejection of the Catholic church? That was a good thing.

That was a good thing? Please tell me how the Cult of Reason was a good thing.

In the spring of 1794, the Cult of Reason was faced with official repudiation when Robespierre, nearing complete dictatorial power during the Reign of Terror, announced his own establishment of a new, deistic religion for the Republic, the Cult of the Supreme Being.

The Cult of the Supreme Being and its festival may have contributed to the Thermidorian Reaction and the downfall of Robespierre. With his death at the guillotine on 28 July 1794, the cult lost all official sanction and disappeared from public view. It was officially banned by Napoleon Bonaparte on 8 April 1802 with his Law on Cults of 18 Germinal, Year X.

[DoomYoshi]

The French clergy at the time were possibly the most corrupt in the history of the church. They were responsible for running the hospitals and schools*, so of course every hospital and school was closed while the non-resident bishops partied away at their villas in South Italy with prostitutes. Corruption needs to be squashed. Jean the local parish priest supported church reform, but the bishops unanimously (technically 130 out of 134 but who's counting?) voted to keep the gravy train rolling, so the ones stupid enough to hang out in France (and not in the villas) lost their heads. It was a good thing for the First Estate to be crushed. Even from a Catholic perspective, it was a good thing to get rid of the rampant Gallicanism in France, a country with 25 million people. Now France is all full of the ultramontanists. At the time, the Pope was really a pawn of the French king. The French revolution stopped that, and also led to the eventual separation of church and state in the Vatican/Italy.

Check out the concordat of 1516... papal bulls couldn't enter France without permission of the king, French subjects could be not be cited before a Roman tribunal, judicial decisions of the vatican didn't have any legal binding in French parishes, civil courts in France instead dealt with church affairs, etc.

*actually all civil services like registering births, deaths, weddings, etc. went through the church; they also were responsible for explaining new laws to people (somewhat like a bulletin board except done through homily); all other charitable services. They had ample resources for this - the church held anywhere from 10-20% of all French land at the time.

From the Church in the Age of Reason

The church occupied a highly favored position and resolutely refused to make concessions. On the eve of the revolution, when the situation was manifestly dangerous Cardinal Loménie de Brienne, then a first minister, suggested to his fellow churchmen a sum which he regarded as their rightful contribution to a crying need. In response, they offered a quarter of what he had asked for. This determination to retain privileges which could not justified only by the services they offered, and which, the church even doing so did not adequately perform aggravated the hostility with which it was regarded in many French quarters.

In short, an extinction-level event would be better than the Catholic church:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/opin ... hange.html

Check out this photograph of the problems faced by the common man in France:

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[The ram]

Soros has absolutely nothing to do with Belgium. This isn't Hungary. And the protests weren't anti-NVA specific. We just had the first government in over two decades without any socialist participation. That's what they protested against. The unions got used to getting their way. They didn't get it this time.

I appreciate your honesty in back tracking on the nonsense you originally wrote, that type of crap gets morons like 2dimes excited, his wife won't appreciate that!

Maybe you should check the address of Open Society's headquarters before saying Soros has nothing to do with Belgium. If you want to know anything else about your country I'd be glad to help.

[saxitoxin]

President Macron's spokesman had to flee his offices after protesters used heavy construction machinery to knock-down the front door and storm the building. Meanwhile, extra troops have been brought in to defend Elysee Palace where Macron and other members of the regime are sheltering.

https://wtvr.com/2019/01/05/thousands-p ... ss-france/

It is time Russia and Belarus declare a no-fly zone over Paris to protect pro-democracy protesters from the regime.

[2dimes]

Yawn, protester numbers in paris jumped from 800 to 3500. If they can double that again, maybe it can become like an unruly Tuesday night after a soccer game in Chichester.

[The ram]

Did anyone notice that the terror attack in Strasbourg seemed to take the momentum out of the yellow vests?

[The ram]

Video of yellow vests with forklift truck

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190106/video- ... lift-truck

[armati]

Protesting a declining standard of living.

People have dif opinions why and they debate the heck out of it, politicians promise and people are surprised when they were lying.

Some day, maybe some one will actually talk about why the standard of living deteriorates.
Once they do, maybe a plan of action can be developed that is equitable to all people instead of the "elites" simply taking everything.

Course, maybe there is a plan in place and the supposed reset happens.

Sure as heck wont be a jubilee.

[waauw]

Protesting a declining standard of living.

People have dif opinions why and they debate the heck out of it, politicians promise and people are surprised when they were lying.

Some day, maybe some one will actually talk about why the standard of living deteriorates.
Once they do, maybe a plan of action can be developed that is equitable to all people instead of the "elites" simply taking everything.

Course, maybe there is a plan in place and the supposed reset happens.

Sure as heck wont be a jubilee.

I saw this a while ago, found it very enlightening piece. You should watch this starting minute 9:00.

[armati]

I served in the forces, guess my iq is higher than 83.

[The ram]

I doubt anyone is naive enough to think that there won't be huge sacrifices needed to be made to remove the establishment. We removed the Nazis who had the same paymasters as today's progressives. Don't equate the stupidity in here with the views of the man on the ground.

[waauw]

I doubt anyone is naive enough to think that there won't be huge sacrifices needed to be made to remove the establishment. We removed the Nazis who had the same paymasters as today's progressives. Don't equate the stupidity in here with the views of the man on the ground.

What makes you think the views of the man on the ground are not stupid?

[The ram]

I doubt anyone is naive enough to think that there won't be huge sacrifices needed to be made to remove the establishment. We removed the Nazis who had the same paymasters as today's progressives. Don't equate the stupidity in here with the views of the man on the ground.

What makes you think the views of the man on the ground are not stupid?

Obviously no idea will be in accordance with everyone but any government should follow the needs of the majority.

[mrswdk]

The state crackdown has begun in earnest:

French Prime Minister Edouard Philippe has announced plans to punish people who hold unsanctioned protests after seven weeks of anti-government unrest.

Protesters smashed down the gates to a government office this weekend.

In other chaotic scenes in Paris, demonstrators fought riot police, and cars and motorbikes were burnt.

Philippe said 80,000 members of the security forces would be deployed for the next expected wave of protests.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-46788751

Once the regime begins clamping down this hard, that's how you know it's the beginning of the end.

[mrswdk]

Can we also just take a second to appreciate that France spent 2 years in a 'temporary' state of emergency during which the government granted itself totalitarian powers (arbitrary raiding of Muslims' homes, workplaces and places of worship, detention of suspects without evidence or trial etc.). In late 2017 the state of emergency was lifted and most of those powers were quietly passed into permanent laws. Barely a year on and the people of France have finally snapped and are busy burning the capital to the ground.

Seems like the French have lost all patience with the jackboot pressed against their necks. Vive la resistance!