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Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:44 pm
by TeeGee
Quite simply
Forum Games to be made its own forum (currently a sub-forum of OT)
Mafia games to be made a sub-forum of the new Games forum



Can I please have your thoughts on this

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:51 pm
by 2dimes
It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

I hope you guys set up a great new thing.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:16 pm
by TeeGee
2dimes wrote:It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

I hope you guys set up a great new thing.


That's why we are having the polls, 1 here in OT and an identical one in the mafia forum.

If the majority are against it then I won't go to admin to make the change, but as it stands both sections are struggling and we need to do something

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 11:48 pm
by Dukasaur
2dimes wrote:It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

There are four people using the Games forum and four people using the Mafia forum.

My Stats teachers taught me that any sample size less that 30 is inherently suspect.

Polling the 8 people concerned, therefore, is useless...:)

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:05 am
by TeeGee
Dukasaur wrote:
2dimes wrote:It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

There are four people using the Games forum and four people using the Mafia forum.

My Stats teachers taught me that any sample size less that 30 is inherently suspect.

Polling the 8 people concerned, therefore, is useless...:)


Does a Canadian education count? :P :P Probably more than a Merry can one actually.

My thoughts are by moving games out of OT it may just be visible to 1 or 2 more people

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 12:08 am
by Dukasaur
TeeGee wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
2dimes wrote:It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

There are four people using the Games forum and four people using the Mafia forum.

My Stats teachers taught me that any sample size less that 30 is inherently suspect.

Polling the 8 people concerned, therefore, is useless...:)


Does a Canadian education count? :P :P Probably more than a Merry can one actually.

My thoughts are by moving games out of OT it may just be visible to 1 or 2 more people


It's worth a try...:)

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2019 4:29 am
by 2dimes
Dukasaur wrote:
2dimes wrote:It's not that I don't care. I'm interested in what happens.
I just think I should leave it up to those that use them.

There are four people using the Games forum and four people using the Mafia forum.

My Stats teachers taught me that any sample size less that 30 is inherently suspect.

Polling the 8 people concerned, therefore, is useless...:)


Not really. No objections one abstained or didn't care. I'd say it's unanimous.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 2:30 am
by Symmetry
Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 6:50 am
by Dukasaur
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 3:52 pm
by DoomYoshi
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:24 pm
by Dukasaur
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Yeah. I don't know if I should take 27 more stats courses. Seems like a long grind.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 7:29 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Yeah. I don't know if I should take 27 more stats courses. Seems like a long grind.


I dunno mate, you're having to guess at having three so far.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:26 pm
by Dukasaur
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Yeah. I don't know if I should take 27 more stats courses. Seems like a long grind.


I dunno mate, you're having to guess at having three so far.


I guess the guess requires an explanation.

In university I had two stats courses, two different years, two different profs. That's an unequivocal two.

The first, however, in high school, leads to the counting problem. The stats I took in high school was not explicitly a stats course. It was called Advanced Algebra and the first half of the course was devoted to Probability and Statistics, while the second half of the course was devoted to Vectors and Matrix Theory. So since only the first half of the course was devoted to Probs and Stats, should I count that only as half a course? In that case, my answer should be that I had 2.5 stats teachers.

But wait! It gets better! Compounding the counting problem is the fact that we had a staffing change during the course.

We had two advanced math teachers. Both of their names escape me now, but one was a fiery redheaded Hungarian (yes, there are redheaded Hungarians, though they are not common. Those damned Vikings fucked their way up and down the Danube just like every other river in Europe and those genes can be found almost everywhere.) He used to jump around the classroom in a highly animated fashion that was halfway between math and circus acrobatics, scribbling his formulas on any available blackboard (sometimes in a non-contiguous fashion) and making huge bold pronouncements with grand flourishes and waves of his arms. He was half Nikola Tesla, half P. T. Barnum, and 100% nuts.

The other one was a meek, soft-spoken, mousy little Englishman with a faint little moustache. He spoke so quietly you had to strain to hear him. He reminded me of Donald Pleasance's character in The Great Escape. (If you've never seen The Great Escape, you really should. It has its flaws, but overall its still one of the great masterworks of cinema.) So anyway, about three weeks into the year, our school had a sudden staff reshuffling. So the Hungarian and the Englishman traded places. Previously, the Hungarian had taught Advanced Algebra and the Englishman had taught Functions and Calculus, but they swapped, so that the Hungarian now taught Functions and Calculus and the Englishman now taught Advanced Algebra. (I was in both classes, so I continued to have both of them.)

So you see my conundrum. By a full counting, I should count both of them, in which case I have had four stats teachers. However, it seems unfair to count someone who only taught the first three weeks of a thirty-week course. It seems especially malodorous since only the first half of that course was devoted to Stats, and by that counting I've only had 2.5. So, I compromised between 2.5 and 4 and decided to call it 3. It's not an entirely satisfactory solution, but it seemed like a decent compromise.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:39 pm
by Symmetry
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Yeah. I don't know if I should take 27 more stats courses. Seems like a long grind.


I dunno mate, you're having to guess at having three so far.


I guess the guess requires an explanation.

In university I had two stats courses, two different years, two different profs. That's an unequivocal two.

The first, however, in high school, leads to the counting problem. The stats I took in high school was not explicitly a stats course. It was called Advanced Algebra and the first half of the course was devoted to Probability and Statistics, while the second half of the course was devoted to Vectors and Matrix Theory. So since only the first half of the course was devoted to Probs and Stats, should I count that only as half a course? In that case, my answer should be that I had 2.5 stats teachers.

But wait! It gets better! Compounding the counting problem is the fact that we had a staffing change during the course.

We had two advanced math teachers. Both of their names escape me now, but one was a fiery redheaded Hungarian (yes, there are redheaded Hungarians, though they are not common. Those damned Vikings fucked their way up and down the Danube just like every other river in Europe and those genes can be found almost everywhere.) He used to jump around the classroom in a highly animated fashion that was halfway between math and circus acrobatics, scribbling his formulas on any available blackboard (sometimes in a non-contiguous fashion) and making huge bold pronouncements with grand flourishes and waves of his arms. He was half Nikola Tesla, half P. T. Barnum, and 100% nuts.

The other one was a meek, soft-spoken, mousy little Englishman with a faint little moustache. He spoke so quietly you had to strain to hear him. He reminded me of Donald Pleasance's character in The Great Escape. (If you've never seen The Great Escape, you really should. It has its flaws, but overall its still one of the great masterworks of cinema.) So anyway, about three weeks into the year, our school had a sudden staff reshuffling. So the Hungarian and the Englishman traded places. Previously, the Hungarian had taught Advanced Algebra and the Englishman had taught Functions and Calculus, but they swapped, so that the Hungarian now taught Functions and Calculus and the Englishman now taught Advanced Algebra. (I was in both classes, so I continued to have both of them.)

So you see my conundrum. By a full counting, I should count both of them, in which case I have had four stats teachers. However, it seems unfair to count someone who only taught the first three weeks of a thirty-week course. It seems especially malodorous since only the first half of that course was devoted to Stats, and by that counting I've only had 2.5. So, I compromised between 2.5 and 4 and decided to call it 3. It's not an entirely satisfactory solution, but it seemed like a decent compromise.


Hmm, I count a lie, a damn lie and a statistic. I think your little story may have left you worse off than where you started.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2019 8:42 pm
by Dukasaur
One day I'll learn to stop throwing pearls before swine.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Tue Jan 29, 2019 9:47 am
by tzor
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Three isn't a stat number ... it's a trinary computation checker. Normally you would expect all three computers, I mean stats teachers to give the same ANSWERS ... When one fails, you fire that one.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 2:13 pm
by DoomYoshi
tzor hails from the time when computer was an occupation...

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:52 pm
by tzor
DoomYoshi wrote:tzor hails from the time when computer was an occupation...


No, not that old. However my Grandmother worked in The Metropolitan Life North Building and I worked in it as well, although that was after the days when the building consisted of clerks that rotated in shifts 24 hours a day processing insurance forms and claims.

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But I did hail from a time when a "computer" would occupy an entire basement; when the printers had to be in their own rooms because of all the noise and the dust from the mechanical moving of the paper through the use of a perforations that could be torn off. I am old enough to have watched the original Battlestar Galactica in High School (and I am not talking about reruns). The original IBM PC was released while I was in College.

So, I'm old, not that old, but still old.
I even taught COBOL once in college.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:22 pm
by jonesthecurl
I used to teach programmers. We used PL/1.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 7:25 pm
by Dukasaur
I took courses in Fortran and Cobol. Didn't finish either course.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 8:28 pm
by TeeGee
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Dukasaur wrote:
Symmetry wrote:Hmm, how many stats teachers did you have, Duk?


I guess three overall.


That is an inherently suspect sample size.


Yeah. I don't know if I should take 27 more stats courses. Seems like a long grind.


I dunno mate, you're having to guess at having three so far.


I guess the guess requires an explanation.

In university I had two stats courses, two different years, two different profs. That's an unequivocal two.

The first, however, in high school, leads to the counting problem. The stats I took in high school was not explicitly a stats course. It was called Advanced Algebra and the first half of the course was devoted to Probability and Statistics, while the second half of the course was devoted to Vectors and Matrix Theory. So since only the first half of the course was devoted to Probs and Stats, should I count that only as half a course? In that case, my answer should be that I had 2.5 stats teachers.

But wait! It gets better! Compounding the counting problem is the fact that we had a staffing change during the course.

We had two advanced math teachers. Both of their names escape me now, but one was a fiery redheaded Hungarian (yes, there are redheaded Hungarians, though they are not common. Those damned Vikings fucked their way up and down the Danube just like every other river in Europe and those genes can be found almost everywhere.) He used to jump around the classroom in a highly animated fashion that was halfway between math and circus acrobatics, scribbling his formulas on any available blackboard (sometimes in a non-contiguous fashion) and making huge bold pronouncements with grand flourishes and waves of his arms. He was half Nikola Tesla, half P. T. Barnum, and 100% nuts.

The other one was a meek, soft-spoken, mousy little Englishman with a faint little moustache. He spoke so quietly you had to strain to hear him. He reminded me of Donald Pleasance's character in The Great Escape. (If you've never seen The Great Escape, you really should. It has its flaws, but overall its still one of the great masterworks of cinema.) So anyway, about three weeks into the year, our school had a sudden staff reshuffling. So the Hungarian and the Englishman traded places. Previously, the Hungarian had taught Advanced Algebra and the Englishman had taught Functions and Calculus, but they swapped, so that the Hungarian now taught Functions and Calculus and the Englishman now taught Advanced Algebra. (I was in both classes, so I continued to have both of them.)

So you see my conundrum. By a full counting, I should count both of them, in which case I have had four stats teachers. However, it seems unfair to count someone who only taught the first three weeks of a thirty-week course. It seems especially malodorous since only the first half of that course was devoted to Stats, and by that counting I've only had 2.5. So, I compromised between 2.5 and 4 and decided to call it 3. It's not an entirely satisfactory solution, but it seemed like a decent compromise.


I calculate it as 3.14 teachers.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:47 pm
by 2dimes
What's the hold up, I s this caught up in red tape?

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 7:47 pm
by TeeGee
2dimes wrote:What's the hold up, I s this caught up in red tape?


viewtopic.php?f=213&t=21590&start=100#p5083430

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Sat Feb 09, 2019 8:10 pm
by 2dimes
Red script.

Re: Proposal: Games forum reshuffle

PostPosted: Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:08 am
by tzor
Dukasaur wrote:I took courses in Fortran and Cobol. Didn't finish either course.

Fortran was fun.
Cobol was a little to "formal" for my tastes. (It's still used by Social Security with 60 million lines of code running.)