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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Apr 05, 2019 7:51 pm

Correct, Duk; this new process of certification of airplanes by the FAA started in 2009.


Dukasaur wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
waauw wrote:So let me get this straight: An Indonesian flight crashes because of a software issue. Boeing implements a solution. Everybody believes all is solved because of america's reputation. Another plane crashes. They make claims that it was the "untrained pilots" fault. Again some people believe them because of their reputation, and yet again they are wrong...

Bye bye Boeing/F.A.A. rep. Can't trust these americans.


Blame Trump and the Republicans! They believe in less oversight and regulations.


This one you can't pin on them. The certification of the 737MAX and the lax regulation that allowed it to happen mostly transpired on Obama's watch.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby waauw on Tue Apr 09, 2019 9:21 am

LMAO, Boeing is going through a rough patch and now the US is considering imposing extra tariffs on Airbus. Looks like america's golden boy isn't doing so well anymore and daddy needs to come help.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mrswdk on Tue Apr 09, 2019 10:25 am

Exactly. You can pretty much map out exactly which American products are becoming increasingly substandard by mapping out the foreign products America is putting tariffs on.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Tue Apr 09, 2019 4:41 pm

I dont know for how long those sanctions will help... US is declining at alarming speed :shock:
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Bernie Sanders on Wed Apr 10, 2019 4:29 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Correct, Duk; this new process of certification of airplanes by the FAA started in 2009.


Dukasaur wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:
waauw wrote:So let me get this straight: An Indonesian flight crashes because of a software issue. Boeing implements a solution. Everybody believes all is solved because of america's reputation. Another plane crashes. They make claims that it was the "untrained pilots" fault. Again some people believe them because of their reputation, and yet again they are wrong...

Bye bye Boeing/F.A.A. rep. Can't trust these americans.


Blame Trump and the Republicans! They believe in less oversight and regulations.


This one you can't pin on them. The certification of the 737MAX and the lax regulation that allowed it to happen mostly transpired on Obama's watch.



My dearest illegitimate son, I mentioned near the beginning that it was a software issue to which you poo-poo that idea.

You should just copy/paste like you usually do to make it seem like you are some intellectual. Now let the adults talk and go look for some articles to copy/paste

Now gentlemen, America is thee best manufacturer of passenger jet aircraft. The issue is the lax behaviour of enforcement and punishment of large corporations and banks by our American politicians. How American CEOs can commit crimes, but are protected by their Corporate Seal.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Symmetry on Wed Apr 10, 2019 9:54 pm

I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:37 pm

waauw wrote:LMAO, Boeing is going through a rough patch and now the US is considering imposing extra tariffs on Airbus. Looks like america's golden boy isn't doing so well anymore and daddy needs to come help.

Boeing needs more then help... there are no new orders from 737 model, reduced production, issue hasn't been fixed(if it can be fixed at all).
On top of everything it looks like that EU will not sit idle and it is preparing to respond for the additional tariffs towards Airbus, with its own $21.5 billion tariffs to US products.
EU to slap €19bn worth of fresh tariffs on US goods as aircraft subsidies row escalates
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:13 pm

Of course I "poo-poo" the fake burnie's ideas; that is because fake burnie is FULL of Poo-Poo.

At least I read and can express ideas like an adult, fake burn; you jus spout CRAP, nearly continuously in all your forum posts. :lol:

QED #31

it was a software issue to which you poo-poo that idea.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun Apr 14, 2019 6:57 am

Yes, you're confused. You over-simplified the analysis of the problem, and you are still confused.


Symmetry wrote:I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Bernie Sanders on Sun Apr 14, 2019 9:43 am

jusplay4fun wrote:Yes, you're confused. You over-simplified the analysis of the problem, and you are still confused.


Symmetry wrote:I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.


Don't let your partisan loyalties get confused with what political party would better regulate companies that could endanger the health and welfare of the working class.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Sun Apr 14, 2019 1:48 pm

Poor Boeing... Boeing's problems are mounting and things are going to get worse before they get better, if they get better at all :shock:

It turns out that greed is very expensive.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Tue Apr 16, 2019 5:57 pm

Trump Gives Advice on Boeing Re-Branding, Suggests Boeing 737 Max Name Change
Trump's proposal explains how US is doing things theses days... Take the same old shit that dint work, rebrand it and sell it as new. But for how long will this work?

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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Symmetry on Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:08 pm

jusplay4fun wrote:Yes, you're confused. You over-simplified the analysis of the problem, and you are still confused.


Symmetry wrote:I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.


That's quite an accusation- how have I over-simplified the issue? Are you in favour of greater levels of regulation?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby GoranZ on Mon Apr 22, 2019 5:07 pm

Seems like Boeing 737 Max is gone for good. Workarounds can be costly sometimes :shock:

So Boeing produced a dynamically unstable airframe, the 737 Max. That is big strike No. 1. Boeing then tried to mask the 737’s dynamic instability with a software system. Big strike No. 2. Finally, the software relied on systems known for their propensity to fail (angle-of-attack indicators) and did not appear to include even rudimentary provisions to cross-check the outputs of the angle-of-attack sensor against other sensors, or even the other angle-of-attack sensor. Big strike No. 3.

None of the above should have passed muster. None of the above should have passed the “OK” pencil of the most junior engineering staff, much less a DER.

That’s not a big strike. That’s a political, social, economic, and technical sin.

How the Boeing 737 Max Disaster Looks to a Software Developer
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Bernie Sanders on Tue Apr 23, 2019 5:06 am

Symmetry wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Yes, you're confused. You over-simplified the analysis of the problem, and you are still confused.


Symmetry wrote:I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.


That's quite an accusation- how have I over-simplified the issue? Are you in favour of greater levels of regulation?



Stop picking on the special needs kid.

Put it in black and white ok?

Tell him do you support the Republican efforts in making passenger planes safer with less regulations and higher profit margins for Boeing.

Or do you support the Democratic push for burdensome red tape, more tax money going down the drain going to the FAA and less profit going to the fine CEOs and stockholders who work and toil to make Boeing what it is today.

Now lets concentrate on building that Wall to keep those brown criminals from invading our country!
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mookiemcgee on Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:24 pm

Bernie Sanders wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
jusplay4fun wrote:Yes, you're confused. You over-simplified the analysis of the problem, and you are still confused.


Symmetry wrote:I'm confused- if Trump boosters think the problem is that Obama caused planes to crash, surely Trump supporters would be in favour of greater governmental regulation of industries like Boeing.

It seems like they're in favour of even less regulation, but aren't sure how to blame that policy on Democrats while doing so.


That's quite an accusation- how have I over-simplified the issue? Are you in favour of greater levels of regulation?




Now lets concentrate on building that Wall to keep those brown criminals from invading our country!


Maybe this was a trump plan the whole time to keep the brown folk from flying their way over the wall?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby mrswdk on Sat May 04, 2019 11:11 am

Yet another Clown Car Inc plane has crashed in humiliating fashion, injuring 21 and drowning several pets being carried in transit:

A passenger plane slid off a runway in the US state of Florida on Friday night, ending up in a river after landing during a thunderstorm.

Twenty-one people were taken to hospital with minor injuries, officials said.

The chartered Boeing 737, operated by Miami Air International, had flown from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba to a military base in the city of Jacksonville.

Passengers say it landed heavily in the storm, skidding into St John's River.


Previously the USG propaganda machine went into overdrive trying to frame a series of Boeing disasters as incidents confined only to one specific aircraft model. This latest calamity makes a mockery of that claim. Boeing is clearly infected with a significantly more widespread rot than first acknowledged. Have they finally run out of excuses?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jimboston on Sun May 05, 2019 9:05 am

mrswdk wrote:Yet another Clown Car Inc plane has crashed in humiliating fashion, injuring 21 and drowning several pets being carried in transit:

A passenger plane slid off a runway in the US state of Florida on Friday night, ending up in a river after landing during a thunderstorm.

Twenty-one people were taken to hospital with minor injuries, officials said.

The chartered Boeing 737, operated by Miami Air International, had flown from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba to a military base in the city of Jacksonville.

Passengers say it landed heavily in the storm, skidding into St John's River.


Previously the USG propaganda machine went into overdrive trying to frame a series of Boeing disasters as incidents confined only to one specific aircraft model. This latest calamity makes a mockery of that claim. Boeing is clearly infected with a significantly more widespread rot than first acknowledged. Have they finally run out of excuses?


Do you take pleasure in human tragedy?

It feels like you are happy about this accident because it somehow validates your disdain for the USA.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun May 05, 2019 10:19 am

Also, Shakespeare died long before Poe. So that makes him a necrophiliac. Unless of course there was a premature burial.
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jimboston on Sun May 05, 2019 4:09 pm

jonesthecurl wrote:Also, Shakespeare died long before Poe. So that makes him a necrophiliac. Unless of course there was a premature burial.


Wrong thread no?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jonesthecurl on Sun May 05, 2019 4:32 pm

jimboston wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:Also, Shakespeare died long before Poe. So that makes him a necrophiliac. Unless of course there was a premature burial.


Wrong thread no?

Yeah, don't know what happened there...
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun May 05, 2019 10:06 pm

The tale of two plane crashes:

'The flames were huge': At least 40 dead in fiery Moscow jet landing caught on video

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2019/05/05/deadly-fiery-moscow-jet-landing-caught-on-video/1112076001/


Flight data recorder recovered from plane that slid into Florida river with 143 people aboard, NTSB says

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/04/us/jacksonville-plane-skids-into-river/index.html


3 pets died in Boeing 737 plane that crash landed in Jacksonville, Florida

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/05/04/pets-still-not-found-plane-crashed-landed-jacksonville/1100509001/
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby jusplay4fun on Sun May 05, 2019 10:09 pm

Could the weather be a factor here? NO....!.....For it would ruin the story of superior China.

mrswdk wrote:Yet another Clown Car Inc plane has crashed in humiliating fashion, injuring 21 and drowning several pets being carried in transit:

A passenger plane slid off a runway in the US state of Florida on Friday night, ending up in a river after landing during a thunderstorm.

Twenty-one people were taken to hospital with minor injuries, officials said.

The chartered Boeing 737, operated by Miami Air International, had flown from Guantanamo Bay in Cuba to a military base in the city of Jacksonville.

Passengers say it landed heavily in the storm, skidding into St John's River.


Previously the USG propaganda machine went into overdrive trying to frame a series of Boeing disasters as incidents confined only to one specific aircraft model. This latest calamity makes a mockery of that claim. Boeing is clearly infected with a significantly more widespread rot than first acknowledged. Have they finally run out of excuses?
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Dukasaur on Mon May 06, 2019 5:17 am

Not to be left behind in the Crash Race, the Russians get into the act:
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/at-least-13-dead-after-aeroflot-plane-makes-a-fiery-crash-landing-in-moscow
At least 40 dead after Aeroflot plane makes emergency landing spewing fire
Safety concerns with the Sukhoi Superjet, Russia's first newly designed post-Soviet passenger plane, emerged soon after its introduction in 2008
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Re: Dangerous American aircraft blacklisted globally

Postby Bernie Sanders on Mon May 06, 2019 7:41 am

Fukn russian piece of sh!t passenger planes are not safe to fly at any speed.

Plus they have been shipping tainted oil to Europe which is corroding oil pipelines. I wouldn't even drink their vodka just incase that it is tainted to, just like their dictator Putin.

The only good russian is a dead russian.
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