Conquer Club

-------------With Pandemics, Drugs...Along with Battlefield filled streets...As I even kept score 7 or 8 years ago...When America had reached a 1,000 mass shootings, I stopped counting... America has reached 1,000 horrible shootings the past 5 years....Crime, drugs, etc... People ask Why? GOD ? Why???...I have been thinking......

-----------The reason some go and some stay...
-----------It's always been an ALL OUT WAR ... The War of LIFE...
----------- Now there's no doubt about it...
------- We ask ourselves the question...Why it is that some of us are taken? While others remain?
------- The only answer is our FAITH in wisdom of The LORD GOD ALMIGHTY...If GOD has chosen us to live...There must be a reason...I have tried to figure out why...
------- Maybe GOD has saved us , because we are needed as witness to remind each other , are family, friends and people everywhere...That The War of LIFE is full of HONOR for MANKIND...Let us never forget that some of what we went, go through and our losses came, come because our Country's Spirit was, is weak...
------- America is part of the world...The world is part of us...If any part suffers, all suffer...If any part loses freedom, all will lose it...We the Survivors of The War of LIFE, "AMERICA, GOD'S PEOPLE"/COUNTRY...
------- Here by swear , that if any of us struggle, We will not forget what we endure, what we suffer, We must keep our Country Strong... Courageous, wise in SPIRIT and be unafraid in the Knowledge that we are on GOD'S SIDE...We must... Sacrifice, endure, fight, and do our utmost...To Shine GOD'S Wisdom upon the World... GOD BLESS AMERICA ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

God is life.

I am life! The life of the world would not be without me. The life of each human depends on me the source of all life. Regardless of belief or disbelief I am life itself.

I have heard opinions that one reason for the large # of mass shootings is that there are no institutions trusted to act as a means to limit bad behaviors. Religion is not trusted by many. There is no institution to replace the way religion acts to curb bad behaviors, bad attitudes, and the ego-centric "me first" nature of many.

I see Mass Shootings NOT as the ONLY threat, but the "Tip of the Iceberg." There are other bad behaviors that do not get the attention from the Mass Media. Teen suicide, depression rates of teens, self-inflicted wounds ("cutting" oneself) are ALL UP and UP lots. There is a crises of a lack of values and morality. There is no respect (a significant decline, at least) of respect for: teachers, police, political leaders, doctors, ministers, and many institutions. To me, a key point is to not place trust in any one person or group of person, but in the values of love of Country, Love of God, and love of Family. I fear that there is certain, among many young people, even a lack of love OF SELF. That lack of Love of self means low self-esteem, that is often the reason teens and young people have issues of anger and anger management. Many young people (and older ones, too) lack the moral underpinning to deal with the set backs in life.

The 18 year old killer in Texas, did not even love his family, not really. AND HE first SHOT his GRANDMOTHER, before going to the school to shoot all those innocent children and kill two teachers, along with those 19 students. He was certainly a troubled young man, barely an adult (he turned 18 only DAYS before buying his gun(s) and ammo to kill his victims.

All the reforms in gun laws that have been proposed likely WOULD NOT have stopped this last mass killing. Background checks do not stop killers. They may SLOW them down, and may make them wait. That may save lives, but I am not sure that the delay is significant.

As I have said before, there are too many Guns (and Ammo) in the USA, too many crazies in the USA, and TOO MANY crazies with too many guns. And then there are the guns in the possession of criminals, who are not necessarily crazy, at least NOT to that extent.

There is also the theory that these mass KILLERS are PURE Evil Incarnate. If anything, these individuals who commit such crimes are weak-minded and lack a love of family and lack a moral grounding and foundation. Weakmindedness allows these persons to be influenced by evil folks. They will often use racism or anti-Semitism as a basis for their hate and to justify their anger and eventually their actions and evil deeds.

Bill Bennett, former Secretary of Education, tried to develop a sense of values and love for fellow humans outside of main stream religion. He did, of sorts, but LOST lots of credibility when it was determined that much of the profits from his book(s) espousing these New Morality values were gambled away in his person vice.

Controversies
Gambling
In 2003, it became publicly known that Bennett - who had spent years preaching about family values and personal responsibility - was a high-stakes gambler who lost millions of dollars in Las Vegas.[21] Criticism increased in the wake of Bennett's publication, The Book of Virtues, a compilation of moral stories about courage, responsibility, friendship and other examples of virtue. Joshua Green of the Washington Monthly said that Bennett failed to denounce gambling because of his own tendency to gamble. Also, Bennett and Empower America, the organization he co-founded and headed at the time, opposed an extension of casino gambling in the United States.[22]

Bennett said that his habit had not put himself or his family in any financial jeopardy. After Bennett's gambling problem became public, he said he did not believe his habit set a good example, that he had "done too much gambling" over the years, and his "gambling days are over". "We are financially solvent," his wife Elayne told USA Today. "All our bills are paid." She added that his gambling days are over. "He's never going again," she said.[23]

Several months later, Bennett qualified his position, saying "So, in this case, the excessive gambling is over." He explained "Since there will be people doing the micrometer on me, I just want to be clear: I do want to be able to bet the Buffalo Bills in the Super Bowl."[24]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Bennett

-----------One thing is, it is not guns , The state of mind....The Christmas Parade Massacre , which the Fake Left media stays away from... Because it doesn't attack the 2nd Amendment...All the Killings in Chicago, New York City...with Strong Guns laws....People are pushing people in front of subway trains....People will find away to kill if they really want to...
----------- As in Buffalo, The Texas killer kid...was in police watch, as in Buffalo, he wrote 4 years ago he was going to shoot up a school in 2022 A.D., arrested, talked to by police, even forced to see professional help...Yet he passed a back round check, because the check was for when he became an adult, he was only an adult for 2 days, his child record Is wiped away, just like The Buffalo killer slipped past his background check...When they bought their weapons...
------------Not a cop, President, Governor, etc...I thought bullet proof vests were illegal for regular people...I guess not... Shouldn't they be...The 2nd Amendment doesn't give one the right at body armor...Maybe Congress can pass a law banning body armor, making it illegal for regular people... Let's see how brave this assholes are...When they try mass shootings...When the Law has body armor, they don't...Or like in Buffalo...The Store security guard didn't have body armor...But his hand gun...Would have stopped the shooter dead in his tracks...The first wave of cops in Texas would have stopped the Texas shooter if he wasn't wearing body armor....
------------- A Middle Eastern Man lived across the street from me when I was little....He said one thing about crime...LOCKS ARE TO KEEP HONEST PEOPLE OUT...If someone wants to steal , break in etc...They will find away....
------------- The same could be said for killing...For Man is an animal, but no one thinks or wants to hear that, the truth...Killing is in Man's nature....No matter how one ignores that fact...
------------- As the Radical Left, tries to attack and break up the Traditional Family....Bust up one's Faith in America...
------------- Just think if there where as many BIBLES or other books of Faith...As Guns...So Americans could be raised on the right path...If guns cross one's path...One would know the responsibility of handling and owning one...

------------- One more problem with today's kids is... Social Media...As they are brainwashed, with all kinds of crap...Along with Video Games, like Call to Duty.... Because they play such games...Become less horrified by death and blood etc...But one more thing....In a video game, there is a reset button...They use a Real Gun on someone, Real Death hits them in the face...When they realize...There is no reset button in real life...Death is final!!!!... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

---------The Worst School attack in U.S. History...95 years ago...Not by a gun....On May 18, 1927 A.D...In Bath, Michigan...A man who lost an election , who's farm was going to be forclosed ... Blew up the town school...Killing 45 and wounded 58...Only the North side of the school went up...The South half never went off...The searchers after the explosion...Found 500 pounds of explosives under the South part of the school...The man was hired by the town to do electrical work on the school a few months earlier, when he set the explosives...If someone wants to kill, they will find away...Gun or no Gun...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

ConfederateSS wrote:-----------
----------- As in Buffalo, The Texas killer kid...was in police watch, as in Buffalo, he wrote 4 years ago he was going to shoot up a school in 2022 A.D., arrested, talked to by police, even forced to see professional help

This is the first I have heard of this. Can you provide a link?

ConfederateSS wrote:------------- As the Radical Left,

Isn't this part of the problem? When someone doesn't agree with others they get called the radical left or the radical right. I feel it isn't a discussion anymore when you start calling people names.

ConfederateSS wrote:------------- Just think if there where as many BIBLES or other books of Faith...As Guns...So Americans could be raised on the right path...If guns cross one's path...One would know the responsibility of handling and owning one...

So are you saying the gun rights advocates don't have enough bibles? Or should I say gun owners?

It’s interesting that you are trying to parse out some sense from his rambling.

I can’t get through the formatting myself. It’s like trying to have a discussion with someone who’s yelling at you.

I’ve tried… and when I’ve tried I’ve never found enough coherence in thought to justify the effort.

Evil Semp wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:-----------
----------- As in Buffalo, The Texas killer kid...was in police watch, as in Buffalo, he wrote 4 years ago he was going to shoot up a school in 2022 A.D., arrested, talked to by police, even forced to see professional help

This is the first I have heard of this. Can you provide a link?

You’ll never get a straight answer.

Evil Semp wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------------- As the Radical Left,

Isn't this part of the problem? When someone doesn't agree with others they get called the radical left or the radical right. I feel it isn't a discussion anymore when you start calling people names.

Yes… this part of the problem. Maybe more than part of the problem… maybe the root cause.

Evil Semp wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------------- Just think if there where as many BIBLES or other books of Faith...As Guns...So Americans could be raised on the right path...If guns cross one's path...One would know the responsibility of handling and owning one...

So are you saying the gun rights advocates don't have enough bibles? Or should I say gun owners?

I don’t know if it matters here what he’s suggesting. Bibles aren’t the solution.

Well maybe if everyone had a bible in their breast pocket, it could stop the bullet,

jonesthecurl wrote:Well maybe if everyone had a bible in their breast pocket, it could stop the bullet,

Very few bibles in Japan... Also very few mass shootings. The correlation seems pretty strong to me, more bibles = more mass shootings.

Number of Americans Killed in Active Shooter Attacks, 2020: 38
Number of Americans Killed in Dog Attacks, 2020: 39

Until we've euthanized all 89 million dogs in the US - including Labradors and Retrievers - I will not support any gun control.

KILL THIS DOG OR NO GUN CONTROL ↓

saxitoxin wrote:Number of Americans Killed in Active Shooter Attacks, 2020: 38
Number of Americans Killed in Dog Attacks, 2020: 39

Until we've euthanized all 89 million dogs in the US - including Labradors and Retrievers - I will not support any gun control.

KILL THIS DOG OR NO GUN CONTROL ↓

There were 45,222 gun deaths in 2020, the highest number of gun-related deaths ever recorded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
In Washington State, 864 people died by gun violence in 2020
124 individuals on average died from gun violence every day in 2020
Firearm homicides increased by nearly 5,000 deaths, or 35%, from 2019 to 2020
Gun violence was the leading cause of death among children, teens, and young adults under the age of 25, accounting for more deaths than COVID-19, car crashes, or cancers
In 2020, rural counties had the highest rate of firearm suicide — 2.1 times higher than the most urban counties, where the firearm suicide rate was lowest
Black males ages 15–34 were over 20x more likely to be a victim of gun homicide than their white counterparts
There was an unprecedented 47% increase in the firearm homicide rate among Black women from 2019 to 2020.

Just to repeat one bit of this,
Gun violence was the leading cause of death among children, teens, and young adults under the age of 25, accounting for more deaths than COVID-19, car crashes, or cancers

...but sure, shoot all the dogs and save 3.5 deaths a month.

That's assuming nobody gets killed by a dog owner while carrying out the task, and nobody commits suicide 'cos you shot their effing dog. And that no blind people get runover 'cos you took their guide dog away. And that no other dogs save any lives. https://iheartdogs.com/12-incredible-stories-about-dogs-saving-humans-lives/

jonesthecurl wrote:Black males ages 15–34 were over 20x more likely to be a victim of gun homicide than their white counterparts

So we should prohibit Black men from owning guns?

I'm not sure I agree with that.

jonesthecurl wrote:...but sure, shoot all the dogs and save 3.5 deaths a month.

That's assuming nobody gets killed by a dog owner while carrying out the task, and nobody commits suicide 'cos you shot their effing dog. And that no blind people get runover 'cos you took their guide dog away. And that no other dogs save any lives. https://iheartdogs.com/12-incredible-stories-about-dogs-saving-humans-lives/

... but sure, ban all guns and prevent 3.5 deaths from mass shootings a month.

That's assuming nobody gets killed by a gun owner while carrying out the task, and nobody gets killed by an armed criminal. And that no single women get raped to death because they have no way to defend themselves. And that no other guns save any lives.

The number of mass shooting incidents in the United States in 2021. When defined as four or more people shot, 2021's total is 13.4 percent higher than 2020. The shootings have claimed 702 lives and injured 2,844 people.

Where did your 30-odd come from?

People who support gun control are Pro-Murder. They're dystopians. The ideal they work towards is for all of America to be like Murder City, USA (AKA Chicago) or Killing Town, America (AKA Baltimore).

States with "A" Ratings (most restrictive gun laws) from Giffords vs Homicide Rate
- Illinois - 11.2 murders per 100K
- Maryland - 11.4 murders per 100K
- California - 6.1 murders per 100K

States with "F" Ratings (least restrictive gun laws) from Giffords vs Homicide Rate
- Vermont - 0 murders per 100K
- Maine - 0 murders per 100K
- Utah - 2.1 murders per 100K

European homicide rate
- 1.7 murders per 100K

jonesthecurl wrote:

The number of mass shooting incidents in the United States in 2021. When defined as four or more people shot, 2021's total is 13.4 percent higher than 2020. The shootings have claimed 702 lives and injured 2,844 people.

Where did your 30-odd come from?

The FBI: https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/act ... 1.pdf/view.

The copypaste schleck you posted is from a radical gun control organization whose CEO makes $700K per year selling fear porn and has been repeatedly caught fabricating statistics to drum-up donations from doe-eyed coastal do-gooders.

One life lost to a dog attack is one too many. Nobody's ever been killed by a cat or a goldfish. Domestic dogs were bred for a different era when they were needed to guard livestock and help hunters. You don't need a dog in the year 2022. If you must have an animal, get one of these -

Probably time for your last resort - lightning strikes.

jonesthecurl wrote:lightning strikes

Good point. More people are killed in lightning strikes each year (43, per the National Weather Service) than are killed in Active Shooter Incidents (38, per the FBI - link above).

Until we ban people from going outdoors there can be no discussion about gun control. One life lost to lightning is one too many. If you aren't willing to support a ban on going outside you aren't a good person. You don't care about other people.

And so we come full circle. You fooled me into reading your posts again, more fool me. You know, there was a time when your trolling was amusing. That time is long gone, farewell.

jonesthecurl wrote:And so we come full circle. You fooled me into reading your posts again, more fool me. You know, there was a time when your trolling was amusing. That time is long gone, farewell.

It's not intended to be amusing.

It's intended to force you to stare at the reflection of your own hypocrisy.

You want universal gun control to stop homicide. But the state with the tightest gun laws in America has the highest homicide rate while the state with the most lax gun laws has the lowest homicide rate.

You don't care about people. You care about looking good, not actually being good. You are okay with innocent women being raped to death with no recourse for protection, Chicago-style, as long as your self-esteem is polished. It's an uncomfortable truth, but that's who you are. My role here is to help you get to the point that you're able to own that aspect of your personality.