Conquer Club

Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony at the January 6th inquest has been described as a "bombshell" by most commentators.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/28/january-6-hearings-cassidy-hutchinson-key-moments-video-analysis-00042914

Most commentators are using words like "shocked" and "disgusted" to hear about Trump's childish tantrums, throwing food at the wall when Bill Barr told the truth about the "steal" theories being nonsense, or welcoming armed thugs into the putsch despite understanding that it raised the chances of people getting hurt.

Personally, I actually feel slightly more positive about Trump after the testimony. I'm not shocked about the food throwing stories -- we already knew he was a spoiled, egotistical little rich bitch. I'm not shocked that he welcomed armed thugs into the insurrection -- that was a given from the start. Until now, what we saw was Trump telling his minions "I'll be right there with you" and then not showing up, which made him not only the leader of an attempted putsch but also a coward who let other people do his fighting for him. Now, it is very clear that he wanted, like Mussolini, to be right at the head of the insurrection during the assault on the Capitol, made a good-faith effort to get there, and was blocked by cooler heads on his staff.

In the revised narrative, Trump is still a liar and a scumbag, but at least he's no longer a coward. I'll never be a fan, but my opinion of him has risen slightly.

Great analysis.

I give it an A-.

Most (or nearly ALL) of C. Hutchinson's testimony is Hearsay; she HEARD others say things or others tell her that President Trump did so and so or say so and so. She was not there for much of what she said happened or was said. Or she quoted one of Trump's lawyers say something that MAY be important.

And much of what she said (Trump grabbed steering wheel while driven by the Secret Service) or that so and so said such and such has been contradicted and THUS makes her credibility a LOT Less. ALSO: I watched a synopsis on "legacy" media who described it as "bombshell" and told my wife it is ALL HEARSAY. I did not need legal or a journalist to tell me THAT.

At one point, Hutchinson claims Trump strangled his Secret Service agent with a noose while screaming "THIS IS MAGA COUNTRY!" and trying to crash the presidential state car into the Capitol front doors to make an entry for his supporters.

Aside from how patently absurd that sounds:

- Hutchinson claims this attack took place in "The Beast" which is the common name for the presidential state car. However, multiple witnesses - backed by video - say that Trump was being driven in an SUV and not "The Beast" on January 6.

- During the hour this supposedly occurred, Trump was being almost continuously photographed by press attending the rally yet there are no photos or video of the supposed incident.

- NBC News' White House correspondent Peter Alexander reports that "A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

- Hutchinson was invited to testify, and her testimony has been promoted, by kangaroo court Vice-Chair Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick Cheney and a former senior defense official under George Bush who helped promote the Iraq WMD lie. In other words, Hutchinson is cooperating with, and being prepared by, a woman known for concocting gigantic lies.

An incredible claim requires incredible evidence. This is an incredible claim with no evidence and at least two points of contradiction. The people who believe it are the people who, in 2019, were nodding solemnly at Jussie Smollett. Now Jussie is in jail but his dim-witted believers live on.

This ridiculous story - that will be totally discredited within days - coincidentally broke the same day the Biden voicemail leaked, pushing it out of the news. In the voicemail, Biden calls crackhead son Hunter and tells him "you're in the clear!" after a New York Times article questioning allegations of corrupt business links to the Chinese government (allegations that have since been proved true). Biden previously lied and said he had never discussed Hunter's business with him and knew nothing about it.

My opinion of DoD has risen slightly because his opinion of Trump has risen slightly.

On to more world shaking news.....

jusplay4fun wrote:Most (or nearly ALL) of C. Hutchinson's testimony is Hearsay; she HEARD others say things or others tell her that President Trump did so and so or say so and so. She was not there for much of what she said happened or was said. Or she quoted one of Trump's lawyers say something that MAY be important.

And much of what she said (Trump grabbed steering wheel while driven by the Secret Service) or that so and so said such and such has been contradicted and THUS makes her credibility a LOT Less. ALSO: I watched a synopsis on "legacy" media who described it as "bombshell" and told my wife it is ALL HEARSAY. I did not need legal or a journalist to tell me THAT.

You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

That said, her testimony contradicts other testimony, and she has no reason to make this shit up and every reason to lie and protect her former employers. Her testimony opens the door to other questions and gives the Committee a stronger position to demand sworn testimony from others who have been resisting the Committee.

No one person’s words can open the door to the truth….but her testimony was significant because it helps shed more light on actual illegal activities that may have occurred at the highest levels of the prior administration.

Hearsay is lot legal in a court of law, but it is valid information that provides investigators with leads… the Committee is NOT a court of law, it’s an investigation. Her testimony is basically a televised investigation… like watching Law & Order, and we’re still in the part where the detectives are talking to people on the street. The only difference is this info in being provided under oath.

Go get a fuckin brain.

jimboston wrote:You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet.

... coming from someone who almost certainly found Jussie Smollet riveting and now is getting ready to drink from the same cup of Kool Aid ...

jimboston wrote:she has no reason to make this shit up

In two months she'll get the same deal Miles Taylor got: MSNBC contributorship, book contract, and paid seat on the Lincoln Project board.

Goes the same way each time and each time jim gets fooled just as easily because, no matter how ridiculous the conspiracy theories get, they play back what he's hearing in his Brookline Democrat echo chamber.

These trials by politician are so lame. Having an independent judiciary* is supposedly fundamental to how the US is governed, until it doesn't prosecute someone that senators want it to at which point they just put that person on blast in an open kangaroo court. If this sort of spectacle went down in an African country Americans would be queueing up to lol at the tinpot backwards dictatorship.


*ignoring the fact the most senior judges in the country are all political appointments chosen for their partisan ideological leanings

bigtoughralf wrote:These trials by politician are so lame. Having an independent judiciary* is supposedly fundamental to how the US is governed, until it doesn't prosecute someone that senators want it to at which point they just put that person on blast in an open kangaroo court. If this sort of spectacle went down in an African country Americans would be queueing up to lol at the tinpot backwards dictatorship.


*ignoring the fact the most senior judges in the country are all political appointments chosen for their partisan ideological leanings

Yup. In a normal congressional inquiry there would be a ranking representative from the opposition party entitled to cross examine each witness. But Pelosi, for the first time in history, refused to seat the Minority Leader's designees.

Ergo, Hutchinson can make all these insane and easily disprovable claims without anyone challenging her or requiring her to account for inconsistencies.

But it gives us cover to do the same thing to Hunter Biden in 5 months; force him to appear on national TV in front of a panel of 7 Republicans and make him describe - under penalty of prison - each piece of selfie porn recovered from his laptop in graphic detail right through 2024. We'll see how much suburban women like Biden after his son is forced to describe in detail his S&M habits and use of human trafficked hookers. And we'll throw some underage women in who will claim he fucked them too. Maybe even a Thai boy from Pfucket. And their claims will be unchallengeable because - like now - there will be no cross examination and they won't be available for post testimony interviews.

And that's not my wet dream. Darrell Issa has already said Party investigators are lining up the hearings order and a Biden family sex trafficking and bribery committee - which will exclude Democrats and include no cross examination - is in place and ready to launch after the November election.

First Son, Seventh Russian Hooker NSFW

jimboston wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:Most (or nearly ALL) of C. Hutchinson's testimony is Hearsay; she HEARD others say things or others tell her that President Trump did so and so or say so and so. She was not there for much of what she said happened or was said. Or she quoted one of Trump's lawyers say something that MAY be important.

And much of what she said (Trump grabbed steering wheel while driven by the Secret Service) or that so and so said such and such has been contradicted and THUS makes her credibility a LOT Less. ALSO: I watched a synopsis on "legacy" media who described it as "bombshell" and told my wife it is ALL HEARSAY. I did not need legal or a journalist to tell me THAT.

You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

That said, her testimony contradicts other testimony, and she has no reason to make this shit up and every reason to lie and protect her former employers. Her testimony opens the door to other questions and gives the Committee a stronger position to demand sworn testimony from others who have been resisting the Committee.

No one person’s words can open the door to the truth….but her testimony was significant because it helps shed more light on actual illegal activities that may have occurred at the highest levels of the prior administration.

Hearsay is lot legal in a court of law, but it is valid information that provides investigators with leads… the Committee is NOT a court of law, it’s an investigation. Her testimony is basically a televised investigation… like watching Law & Order, and we’re still in the part where the detectives are talking to people on the street. The only difference is this info in being provided under oath.

Go get a fuckin brain.

Wow, Jimmy-B: calm down a bit; take a deep breath, breathe it out slowly, and then go for a long quiet walk, BEFORE you return to CC. There is no need for a heart attack, NOT now, anyway.

and you TOTALLY contradict yourself. You agree with me (I must have SOME Brains, RIGHT?) but ONLY AFTER you go on a MAJOR ad hominem attack on me.

Smart jimmy-Boi, you're really SMART....NOT. Typical TROLL, full of emotion, hot air, and fury and not much else.

I got a brain; where's yours? on your tongue? and "fucking" must be about the only negative adjective you know. What a moron.

You said:

You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

saxitoxin wrote:And that's not my wet dream. Darrell Issa has already said Party investigators are lining up the hearings order and a Biden family sex trafficking and bribery committee - which will exclude Democrats and include no cross examination - is in place and ready to launch after the November election.

First Son, Seventh Russian Hooker NSFW

Yeah but no one cares, Hunter Biden didn't try to overthrow a legitimately elected US gov't with a violent coup. ONLY TRUMP DID THAT

mookiemcgee wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:And that's not my wet dream. Darrell Issa has already said Party investigators are lining up the hearings order and a Biden family sex trafficking and bribery committee - which will exclude Democrats and include no cross examination - is in place and ready to launch after the November election.

First Son, Seventh Russian Hooker NSFW

Yeah but no one cares, Hunter Biden didn't try to overthrow a legitimately elected US gov't with a violent coup. ONLY TRUMP DID THAT

But Joe Biden give large sums of money to a man under investigation by the DOJ for accepting multi-million dollar Chinese state bribes to facilitate access to top US politicians, which that man then used to pay to rape human trafficking victims.

bigtoughralf wrote:

mookiemcgee wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:And that's not my wet dream. Darrell Issa has already said Party investigators are lining up the hearings order and a Biden family sex trafficking and bribery committee - which will exclude Democrats and include no cross examination - is in place and ready to launch after the November election.

First Son, Seventh Russian Hooker NSFW

Yeah but no one cares, Hunter Biden didn't try to overthrow a legitimately elected US gov't with a violent coup. ONLY TRUMP DID THAT

But Joe Biden give large sums of money to a man under investigation by the DOJ for accepting multi-million dollar Chinese state bribes to facilitate access to top US politicians, which that man then used to pay to rape human trafficking victims.

Small potatoes

Imagine living in a country where your leader being caught funding sex trafficking is 'small potatoes'.

Liz Cheney's Big Lie Unraveling! NBC News Uncovers More Falsehoods in Hutchinson's Testimony

saxitoxin wrote:

- Hutchinson claims this attack took place in "The Beast" which is the common name for the presidential state car. However, multiple witnesses - backed by video - say that Trump was being driven in an SUV and not "The Beast" on January 6.

- During the hour this supposedly occurred, Trump was being almost continuously photographed by press attending the rally yet there are no photos or video of the supposed incident.

- NBC News' White House correspondent Peter Alexander reports that "A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

- Hutchinson was invited to testify, and her testimony has been promoted, by kangaroo court Vice-Chair Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick Cheney and a former senior defense official under George Bush who helped promote the Iraq WMD lie. In other words, Hutchinson is cooperating with, and being prepared by, a woman known for concocting gigantic lies.

In less than 24 hours, more of Hutchinson's testimony has started unraveling. NBC News reports that, in addition to all of the above, we have now also learned:

- “The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on January 6, 2021,” a Herschmann spokesperson said. “All sources with direct knowledge and law enforcement have and will confirm that it was written by Mr. Herschmann.” Hutchinson, who had served as a top aide to Meadows, testified publicly that she was sure she had written the note and that it featured her handwriting.

- Hutchinson applied for a job at Mar-a-Lago working for Trump after January 6 -- an event she says traumatized her and soured her on Trump. Her application was rejected.

A hundred PIs are now pouring through every detail of Hutchinson's life back through kindergarten. This is just what they've found in 24 hours.

It is also now rumored that Cheney was the only one who was aware of Hutchinson's testimony in advance and that Cheney's chief investigator is currently on a leave of absence so all of these threads which are now unraveling weren't picked-up in advance. This is how the committee ended up putting a Jussie Smollett on national TV.

The committee has single-handedly Jussie'd themselves. None of their inquiry will be viewed as legitimate after the dissection of Hutchinson is complete. The J6 committee just did more for Trump than 10,000 donors. MAGA will use this to reinforce and expand the deep state narrative and extend its tentacles into more independents.

I was just browsing Hunter's laptop contents at hunterbidenemails.com and found this email in which he contacts a guy named Dmitri asking for a first class ticket out of Thailand where he'd been on Ko Pha Ngan, a notorious island whose only industry is prostitution involving questionably willing, very young staff.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 4646_11641

Dmitri's LinkedIn profile shows that he graduated from Ulyanovsk State University in Russia.

Funny that, of all the travel agents in the U.S., he chooses a Russian national to organize his outbound travel from his whirlwind trip sexing young Thai boys.

In a cryptic, later email, he tells Dmitri he wants to set-up a "formal relationship ... with my fathers" business. This was in September 2017. What business was Joe Biden running in September 2017 that he needed a Russian business partner / sleeper agent? According to public statements, he was living in retirement at the terminus of his vice-presidency.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 2610_11967

saxitoxin wrote:

jimboston wrote:You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet.

... coming from someone who almost certainly found Jussie Smollet riveting and now is getting ready to drink from the same cup of Kool Aid ...

jimboston wrote:she has no reason to make this shit up

In two months she'll get the same deal Miles Taylor got: MSNBC contributorship, book contract, and paid seat on the Lincoln Project board.

Goes the same way each time and each time jim gets fooled just as easily because, no matter how ridiculous the conspiracy theories get, they play back what he's hearing in his Brookline Democrat echo chamber.

Oh yeah… us “Libs from Brookline” are the conspiracy nuts… not the people who follow Q-Anon.

You have no credibility. Go die.

bigtoughralf wrote:These trials by politician are so lame. Having an independent judiciary* is supposedly fundamental to how the US is governed, until it doesn't prosecute someone that senators want it to at which point they just put that person on blast in an open kangaroo court. If this sort of spectacle went down in an African country Americans would be queueing up to lol at the tinpot backwards dictatorship.


*ignoring the fact the most senior judges in the country are all political appointments chosen for their partisan ideological leanings

but it’s not a trial.

Fuckin’ clueless.

saxitoxin wrote:

bigtoughralf wrote:These trials by politician are so lame. Having an independent judiciary* is supposedly fundamental to how the US is governed, until it doesn't prosecute someone that senators want it to at which point they just put that person on blast in an open kangaroo court. If this sort of spectacle went down in an African country Americans would be queueing up to lol at the tinpot backwards dictatorship.


*ignoring the fact the most senior judges in the country are all political appointments chosen for their partisan ideological leanings

Yup. In a normal congressional inquiry there would be a ranking representative from the opposition party entitled to cross examine each witness. But Pelosi, for the first time in history, refused to seat the Minority Leader's designees.

Ergo, Hutchinson can make all these insane and easily disprovable claims without anyone challenging her or requiring her to account for inconsistencies.

But it gives us cover to do the same thing to Hunter Biden in 5 months; force him to appear on national TV in front of a panel of 7 Republicans and make him describe - under penalty of prison - each piece of selfie porn recovered from his laptop in graphic detail right through 2024. We'll see how much suburban women like Biden after his son is forced to describe in detail his S&M habits and use of human trafficked hookers. And we'll throw some underage women in who will claim he fucked them too. Maybe even a Thai boy from Pfucket. And their claims will be unchallengeable because - like now - there will be no cross examination and they won't be available for post testimony interviews.

cause all their designees were Trump loyalists who are likely involved in what’s being investigated…

jusplay4fun wrote:

jimboston wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:Most (or nearly ALL) of C. Hutchinson's testimony is Hearsay; she HEARD others say things or others tell her that President Trump did so and so or say so and so. She was not there for much of what she said happened or was said. Or she quoted one of Trump's lawyers say something that MAY be important.

And much of what she said (Trump grabbed steering wheel while driven by the Secret Service) or that so and so said such and such has been contradicted and THUS makes her credibility a LOT Less. ALSO: I watched a synopsis on "legacy" media who described it as "bombshell" and told my wife it is ALL HEARSAY. I did not need legal or a journalist to tell me THAT.

You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

That said, her testimony contradicts other testimony, and she has no reason to make this shit up and every reason to lie and protect her former employers. Her testimony opens the door to other questions and gives the Committee a stronger position to demand sworn testimony from others who have been resisting the Committee.

No one person’s words can open the door to the truth….but her testimony was significant because it helps shed more light on actual illegal activities that may have occurred at the highest levels of the prior administration.

Hearsay is lot legal in a court of law, but it is valid information that provides investigators with leads… the Committee is NOT a court of law, it’s an investigation. Her testimony is basically a televised investigation… like watching Law & Order, and we’re still in the part where the detectives are talking to people on the street. The only difference is this info in being provided under oath.

Go get a fuckin brain.

Wow, Jimmy-B: calm down a bit; take a deep breath, breathe it out slowly, and then go for a long quiet walk, BEFORE you return to CC. There is no need for a heart attack, NOT now, anyway.

and you TOTALLY contradict yourself. You agree with me (I must have SOME Brains, RIGHT?) but ONLY AFTER you go on a MAJOR ad hominem attack on me.

Smart jimmy-Boi, you're really SMART....NOT. Typical TROLL, full of emotion, hot air, and fury and not much else.

I got a brain; where's yours? on your tongue? and "fucking" must be about the only negative adjective you know. What a moron.

You said:

You are the fucking stupidest person on the fucking face of the planet. My toenail trimmings that I just flushed have more brain matter.

Yes, much of her testimony is hearsay, and no one said her testimony proved anything.

Fuckin’ idiot.

I don’t agree with part of what you said, but not your main point…

I agree with the idea that yeah… in a Court some of her testimony would not be accepted, because it’s heresay.

Your main point was to discount 100% of her testimony…. which is idiotic in the context of the hearings.

Also, no need to calm down. I’m not upset at all… I’m only using strong language because you’re so fuckin’ dumb I don;t think you can follow unless I add the emphasis.

mookiemcgee wrote:

saxitoxin wrote:And that's not my wet dream. Darrell Issa has already said Party investigators are lining up the hearings order and a Biden family sex trafficking and bribery committee - which will exclude Democrats and include no cross examination - is in place and ready to launch after the November election.

First Son, Seventh Russian Hooker NSFW

Yeah but no one cares, Hunter Biden didn't try to overthrow a legitimately elected US gov't with a violent coup. ONLY TRUMP DID THAT

+1

saxitoxin wrote:Liz Cheney's Big Lie Unraveling! NBC News Uncovers More Falsehoods in Hutchinson's Testimony

saxitoxin wrote:

- Hutchinson claims this attack took place in "The Beast" which is the common name for the presidential state car. However, multiple witnesses - backed by video - say that Trump was being driven in an SUV and not "The Beast" on January 6.

- During the hour this supposedly occurred, Trump was being almost continuously photographed by press attending the rally yet there are no photos or video of the supposed incident.

- NBC News' White House correspondent Peter Alexander reports that "A source close to the Secret Service tells me both Bobby Engel, the lead agent, and the presidential limousine/SUV driver are prepared to testify under oath that neither man was assaulted and that Mr. Trump never lunged for the steering wheel."

- Hutchinson was invited to testify, and her testimony has been promoted, by kangaroo court Vice-Chair Liz Cheney, daughter of Dick Cheney and a former senior defense official under George Bush who helped promote the Iraq WMD lie. In other words, Hutchinson is cooperating with, and being prepared by, a woman known for concocting gigantic lies.

In less than 24 hours, more of Hutchinson's testimony has started unraveling. NBC News reports that, in addition to all of the above, we have now also learned:

- “The handwritten note that Cassidy Hutchinson testified was written by her was in fact written by Eric Herschmann on January 6, 2021,” a Herschmann spokesperson said. “All sources with direct knowledge and law enforcement have and will confirm that it was written by Mr. Herschmann.” Hutchinson, who had served as a top aide to Meadows, testified publicly that she was sure she had written the note and that it featured her handwriting.

- Hutchinson applied for a job at Mar-a-Lago working for Trump after January 6 -- an event she says traumatized her and soured her on Trump. Her application was rejected.

A hundred PIs are now pouring through every detail of Hutchinson's life back through kindergarten. This is just what they've found in 24 hours.

It is also now rumored that Cheney was the only one who was aware of Hutchinson's testimony in advance and that Cheney's chief investigator is currently on a leave of absence so all of these threads which are now unraveling weren't picked-up in advance. This is how the committee ended up putting a Jussie Smollett on national TV.

The committee has single-handedly Jussie'd themselves. None of their inquiry will be viewed as legitimate after the dissection of Hutchinson is complete. The J6 committee just did more for Trump than 10,000 donors. MAGA will use this to reinforce and expand the deep state narrative and extend its tentacles into more independents.

You’re quoting yourself now as a primary source?

Not surprised… when you can’t find actual data to back yourself, just make shit up.

Also… mistaking which causal vehicle was used is really not equivalent to all “her testimony unraveling”.

saxitoxin wrote:I was just browsing Hunter's laptop contents at hunterbidenemails.com and found this email in which he contacts a guy named Dmitri asking for a first class ticket out of Thailand where he'd been on Ko Pha Ngan, a notorious island whose only industry is prostitution involving questionably willing, very young staff.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 4646_11641

Dmitri's LinkedIn profile shows that he graduated from Ulyanovsk State University in Russia.

Funny that, of all the travel agents in the U.S., he chooses a Russian national to organize his outbound travel from his whirlwind trip sexing young Thai boys.

In a cryptic, later email, he tells Dmitri he wants to set-up a "formal relationship ... with my fathers" business. This was in September 2017. What business was Joe Biden running in September 2017 that he needed a Russian business partner / sleeper agent? According to public statements, he was living in retirement at the terminus of his vice-presidency.

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/biden-ema ... 2610_11967

Attempt #5 at derailing this thread and changing it from a conversation about Trump’s attempted coup to an attack on a lame old alzheimer’s patient and his family problems.