Conquer Club

The division shall immediately cancel the filings of a political party, to include its registration and approved status as a political party, if the party’s platform has previously advocated for, or been in support of, slavery or involuntary servitude.

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Senator Ingoglia noted that the Democratic Party adopted pro-slavery positions in their platforms during conventions in 1840, 1844, 1856, 1860, and 1864. He believes that canceling the Democratic Party is a necessary step to confront their past.

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the bull Romanus Pontifex (1455) gave the right of taking for reason of punishment for crime saracens (who, as Muslims in general were slavers themselves, often capturing Christians) and pagans as perpetual slaves.

After all, the New Testament’s “injunctions for slaves to obey their masters appeared alongside instructions for wives to obey their husbands.”

Nathaniel Hawthorne in 'Endicott and the Red Cross' wrote:"Hold thy peace, Roger Williams!" answered Endicott, imperiously. "My spirit is wiser than shine, for the business now in hand. I tell ye, fellow-exiles, that Charles of England, and Laud, our bitterest persecutor, arch-priest of Canterbury, are resolute to pursue us even hither. They are taking counsel, saith this letter, to send over a governor-general, in whose breast shall be deposited all the law and equity of the land. They are minded, also, to establish the idolatrous forms of English Episcopacy; so that, when Laud shall kiss the Pope's toe, as cardinal of Rome, he may deliver New England, bound hand and foot, into the power of his master!"

"Before God and man, I will avouch the deed," answered Endicott. "Beat a flourish, drummer!--shout, soldiers and people!--in honor of the ensign of New England. Neither Pope nor Tyrant hath part in it now!"

With a cry of triumph, the people gave their sanction to one of the boldest exploits which our history records. And, for ever honored be the name of Endicott! We look back through the mist of ages, and recognize, in the rending of the Red Cross from New England's banner, the first omen of that deliverance which our fathers consummated, after the bones of the stern Puritan had lain more than a century in the dust.



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The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, came into being in 1845 as the church of Southern slaveholders.

Now, 173 years later, Southern Baptist leaders are not just acknowledging their dark history; they are documenting it, as if by telling the story in wrenching detail, they may finally be freed of its taint.

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the denomination's flagship institution, this week released a 71-page report on the role that racism and support for slavery played in its origin and growth.

Missionaries argued that slave conversion would solidify planter power, make slaves more obedient and hardworking, and make slavery into a viable Protestant institution. They also encouraged the development of a race-based justification for slavery and sought to pass legislation that confirmed the legality of enslaving black Christians. In so doing, they redefined the practice of religion, the meaning of freedom, and the construction of race in the early modern Atlantic World.Their arguments helped to form the foundation of the proslavery ideology that would emerge in the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

Brigham Young and Orson Spencer spoke in favor of legalizing and regulating slavery,

At the time—I was surprised to learn—slavery was accepted and common among the English Quakers who were in political control of Pennsylvania. And that was not all: Quakers were also involved in the slave trade. As it turns out, many of the Quakers in Philadelphia immigrated not from England, but from the Caribbean island of Barbados.

the Amish were among the foremost abolitionists, and provided valuable material assistance to runaway slaves. They are a very anti-slavery group and have been for most of their history.

bigtoughralf wrote:Hear hear, sax. There is a reason Catholicism is the only religious affiliation explicitly banned from the throne of England and a reason the UK Pope-xited all those hundreds of years ago.

jonesthecurl wrote:Southern Baptists...

The Southern Baptist Convention, the largest Protestant denomination in the United States, came into being in 1845 as the church of Southern slaveholders.

Now, 173 years later, Southern Baptist leaders are not just acknowledging their dark history; they are documenting it, as if by telling the story in wrenching detail, they may finally be freed of its taint.

The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, the denomination's flagship institution, this week released a 71-page report on the role that racism and support for slavery played in its origin and growth.

Protestants generally...

Missionaries argued that slave conversion would solidify planter power, make slaves more obedient and hardworking, and make slavery into a viable Protestant institution. They also encouraged the development of a race-based justification for slavery and sought to pass legislation that confirmed the legality of enslaving black Christians. In so doing, they redefined the practice of religion, the meaning of freedom, and the construction of race in the early modern Atlantic World.Their arguments helped to form the foundation of the proslavery ideology that would emerge in the late eighteenth and nineteenth centuries.

Mormons...

Brigham Young and Orson Spencer spoke in favor of legalizing and regulating slavery,

Even Quakers...

At the time—I was surprised to learn—slavery was accepted and common among the English Quakers who were in political control of Pennsylvania. And that was not all: Quakers were also involved in the slave trade. As it turns out, many of the Quakers in Philadelphia immigrated not from England, but from the Caribbean island of Barbados.

hurrah for the Amish...

the Amish were among the foremost abolitionists, and provided valuable material assistance to runaway slaves. They are a very anti-slavery group and have been for most of their history.

My being many years in the Assembly. . . gave me frequent opportunities of seeing the embarrassment given them by their principle against war, whenever application was made to them, by order of the crown, to grant aids for military purposes. . . . The common mode at last was, to grant money under the phrase of its being "for the king's use," and never to inquire how it was applied.

saxitoxin wrote:

bigtoughralf wrote:Hear hear, sax. There is a reason Catholicism is the only religious affiliation explicitly banned from the throne of England and a reason the UK Pope-xited all those hundreds of years ago.

True story. My favorite hymn is We Gather Together which is a celebration of the victory of the Dutch over the Popish Spanish forces. But nowadays even Catholics use it; they take elements of things and twist their meaning, just like they did with the scriptures.

jonesthecurl wrote:hurrah for the Amish...

the Amish were among the foremost abolitionists, and provided valuable material assistance to runaway slaves. They are a very anti-slavery group and have been for most of their history.

the history of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) is deeply entwined with the violence and inhumanity of slavery - and with a history of anti-Black racism that allowed White Presbyterians to offer a theological rationale for the degradation and abuse they perpetuated.

In the first 20 years of Bethlehem's founding, the Moravian Church purchased three dozen enslaved people. Scott Gordon, the Lehigh department chair for English, said most people are aware African-Americans were in Bethlehem, but many people are unaware that there were slaves here.

jonesthecurl wrote:presbyterians:

the history of the Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.) is deeply entwined with the violence and inhumanity of slavery - and with a history of anti-Black racism that allowed White Presbyterians to offer a theological rationale for the degradation and abuse they perpetuated.

jonesthecurl wrote:I'm getting bored - would anyone else like to carry on?