Dukasaur wrote:jusplay4fun wrote:GaryDenton wrote:Seeing our right-wing fascists trying to say it is Left fascism is predictable but still humorous.
Meanwhile, there's no rational case for Trump, but there's a loud contingent on the left that wants to burn it all down. Combine that with low-information ignorant voters and Republicans circling the wagons around their guy, and we have the outlines of a disaster.
Trump has told you what he wants to do, but many people are happy with military deployments in the US, concentration camps, all government employees swearing loyalty to Trump, not the Constitution, and mass revenge lawsuits against everyone Trump hates. These are just the start of the changes the organized fascists want and they have a detailed plan and tens of millions of dollars to implement.
On the media lawsuits, it is about time lies have consequences and the Right is freaking out.
When the activist base of the modern Republican Party is the racist old Christian Southern Democrats and the KKK and John Birchers, we should have seen this coming.
https://www.salon.com/2024/03/01/project-2025-is-more-than-a-playbook-for-trumpism-its-the-christian-nationalist-manifesto/Calling Project 2025 a Republican Christo-fascist manifesto seems too aggressive for some people. We are conditioned to avoid confronting the religious passions of others, but I spent years in the pews hearing the sermons, the warnings of Christian persecution. I’m not exaggerating. It’s not hyperbole.
More crap from the Leftist Liberal GaryD; I am sure his chorus of low mentality (i.e., p-rat and p-mac) will parrot some of these ridiculous comments. And as I predicted, there had to be a FALSE allegation of rascism, OF COURSE; following the liberal playbook. PREDICTaBLe and PUH-thetic.
Other than gratuitous insults, do you have a point to make?
Do you have a refutation for anything he said?
Do I need to call each of his LIES a LIE point by point? This is merely CRAP by GaryD and there is no need for a point by point refutation of each. Why spend time documenting each individual lie when one post does that in a lucid, succinct, and cogent manner?
Okay, Duk, I will play your game for a few rounds:
First, let's look at GaryD's source.
Salon is an American politically progressive and liberal news and opinion website created in 1995. It publishes articles on U.S. politics, culture, and current events.[3][4][5][6]
Content and coverage
Salon covers a variety of topics, including reviews and articles about books, films, and music;[1] articles about "modern life", including friendships, human sexual behavior, and relationships; and reviews and articles about technology, with a particular focus on the free and open-source software (FOSS) movement.
According to the senior contributing writer for the American Journalism Review, Paul Farhi, Salon offers "provocative (if predictably liberal) political commentary and lots of sex."[7]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salon.com#:~:text=Salon%20is%20an%20American%20politically,%2C%20culture%2C%20and%20current%20events.Do you accept wikipedia as a reasonably fair source (AND UNLIKE Salon)?
#2
When the activist base of the modern Republican Party is the racist old Christian Southern Democrats and the KKK and John Birchers, we should have seen this coming.
What do I need to refute here? The entire statement is:
1) patently FALSE, and
2) what liberals want to peddle to fire their base. Does GaryD offer evidence for any of this? I do not consider Salon as a reputable source; do you Duk?
Note too that this is the DEMOCRAT party, NOT Republicans, something Liberals NEVER acknowledge, based on what I have read and seen. They may decry racists of the past, BUT never ACKNOWLEDGE that these were predecessors of THEIR party.
To be frank, I am sure that there are a few racists and white supremacists among SOME MAGA supporters. So what? How large is this group? How much influence do they have? Again, liberals and Democrats want to paint ALL Trump supporters with this WIDE brush and do so with evil intent. That does not mean all MAGA is racists; this does not mean Trump is a racist. In fact, Trump received awards from liberal groups before he got into Presidential Politics:
Humanitarian Award by the National Jewish Hospital (1976)[16]
Tree of Life Award by the Jewish National Fund (1983)[17]
Ellis Island Medal of Honor for his work as a successful developer in New York City. (1986)[18]
President's Medal by the Freedom Foundation for his support of youth programs (1995)[19]
Muhammad Ali Entrepreneur Award (2007)[20]
Unicorn Children's Foundation Shining Star Award (2008)[21]
Palm Tree Award by the Palm Beach Police Foundation (2010)[22]
Presidential Hero Award by the Lois Pope LIFE Foundation (2011)[23]
The Algemeiner Liberty Award for contributions to Israel–United States relations (2015)[24]
Marine Corps–Law Enforcement Foundation Commandant's Leadership Award (2015)[25]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_awards_and_honors_received_by_Donald_Trumpand
In a 2004 interview, Trump told CNN's Wolf Blitzer: "In many cases, I probably identify more as Democrat",
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_positions_of_Donald_Trump#3
I challenge GaryD to PROVE that Trump has any links to KKK or John Birchers; again, this is "red meat" thrown to liberals to fuel the flames the lie that Trump is a racist.
#4
many people are happy with military deployments in the US, concentration camps, all government employees swearing loyalty to Trump, not the Constitution,
Really? Do I even need to refute ANY of this? Again, GaryD offers "proof" from a liberal website? And I need to refute that? PUH-LEEEESE.
Concentration camps? talk about hyperbole, lies, and innuendo. Clearly that is what this statement offers, and NOT one iota of truth. Where is one in the US? Where did Trump do so? And I need to REFUTE that? Okay, I did.
BUT, to be fair, I do see a MODICUM of truth here:
mass revenge lawsuits against everyone Trump hates
I think this use of the courts to fight against those whom Trump hates and/or dislikes has a kernel of truth.
#5
The Project 2025 criticism seems to me (at first glance) is more liberal "red meat" and is not a serious criticism. I think Liberals like GaryD would shudder to think what may happen if Trump wins in 2024, and hence he makes another spurious post on what is REALLY a difference of opinion and a different set of values.
https://www.project2025.org/BUT the BOTTOM line is that GaryD, in this post, offers mostly lies, innuendo, and obfuscation. Is that enough?