Conquer Club

ConfederateSS wrote:---------The difference is, Detroit school kids are all packing heat...So, you probably don't want to open fire...You'll be hit in seconds from another direction...
-------- About the NYC shooting.... It's not that the gunman shot the CEO ....The biggest problem...He shot the CEO from behind, in the back...A no...no...You kill someone...You look them in the eye...Face to face...Let'em know, yeah Mother F*cker....It's ME...sucker...Do it with HONOR...... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)...

2dimes wrote:We have lots of terrific gun limiting laws and they just keep adding more. It's getting stupid up here. Yet there are still lots of illegal guns showing up.

Dukasaur wrote:

2dimes wrote:We have lots of terrific gun limiting laws and they just keep adding more. It's getting stupid up here. Yet there are still lots of illegal guns showing up.

Well, we are uniquely positioned to have the world's longest unprotected border, right next to a country where any donkey has a constitutional right to buy 500 guns.

We could scrap 90% of our gun laws safely if we would just invest in more Customs inspectors.

Dukasaur wrote:

2dimes wrote:We have lots of terrific gun limiting laws and they just keep adding more. It's getting stupid up here. Yet there are still lots of illegal guns showing up.

Well, we are uniquely positioned to have the world's longest unprotected border, right next to a country where any donkey has a constitutional right to buy 500 guns.

We could scrap 90% of our gun laws safely if we would just invest in more Customs inspectors.

jusplay4fun wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:

2dimes wrote:We have lots of terrific gun limiting laws and they just keep adding more. It's getting stupid up here. Yet there are still lots of illegal guns showing up.

Well, we are uniquely positioned to have the world's longest unprotected border, right next to a country where any donkey has a constitutional right to buy 500 guns.

We could scrap 90% of our gun laws safely if we would just invest in more Customs inspectors.

Gun safety laws are not the problem with Guns in America.

More Customs inspectors for whom? USA? Canada? what about the US-Mexican border?

KoolBak wrote:That's offensive DoD.

The gun buying laws are strict and strictly enforced. And abided by 99 plus percent of decent, safe gun owners.

Don't let the few skew your opinion of the many.

KoolBak wrote:DoD, ALL STATES require a federal background check. There are NO gun show exemptions. And no tracing exists except for specialty purchases. Private sales are required to go thru registered FFLs. Obviously criminals don't care, but the rest of us do. I buy / sell a couple dozen weapons a year....

Not understanding your attempted point re: W V, for example.

South Carolina has not closed the unlicensed sale loophole, enabling prohibited purchasers to skip a background check by seeking out an unlicensed seller, who is not required to do a background check, at a gun show or online. Dramatic research shows the scale of this gaping loophole, as the vast market for no-questions-asked online gun sales has soared during the COVID-19 pandemic.
An investigation of the online gun market Armlist.com (“Armslist”) revealed a massive marketplace where unchecked gun sales are taking place between complete strangers meeting online, allowing criminals and other prohibited purchasers an easy avenue for access.
Each year, there are more than 56,000 ads on Armslist offering firearms for sale in South Carolina where no background check is legally required.4
Each one of those posts is an opportunity for a prohibited purchaser to acquire a gun. And research shows prohibited purchasers actively seek out these unregulated ads: In 2018, one in nine people looking to buy guns from unlicensed sellers would have failed a background check, a rate seven times higher than the denial rate at gun stores.5

The gun show loophole is a term describing the legal exception of mandated background checks for certain private sales of firearms in the United States. Primarily, it refers to "a situation in which many sellers dealing in firearms offer them for sale at gun shows without becoming licensed or subjecting purchasers to background checks".[1][2] Regardless of the context of a sale, private sales to buyers known or suspected of being prohibited from possessing firearms and "straw purchases" by others on behalf of prohibited purchasers are illegal.[3][4] The background check system and the private sale exemption were established by the 1993 Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act, commonly known as the Brady Bill. Under the Brady Bill anyone not "engaged in the business" of selling firearms is not required to obtain a background check on buyers seeking to purchase firearms from a seller's private collection. Along with federal laws for firearms purchases, there are also local and state laws regulating background check requirements for the purchase of firearms.[5][6][7][8]

Advocates for gun rights find the "gun show loophole" terminology dubious, since the applicable law says nothing that is specifically about gun shows. They argue that current laws provide rules for commercial gun sellers more broadly, and intentionally do not regulate non-commercial, intrastate transfers of legal firearms between private citizens, regardless of whether the transactions occur at gun shows or somewhere else. In 1999 the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) reported that the definition of who is "engaged in the business" of firearms sales is overly narrow and that the Brady law did not help private sellers identify prohibited persons seeking to purchase firearms, while also allowing habitual arms traders to claim that they fall within the private sales exemption.[9] Since the mid-1990s, gun control advocates have campaigned for requiring universal background checks.[10][11] Implementing universal background checks would affect all private sales, not just those at gun shows.

Federal law requires the holders of a federal firearms license (FFL), such as gun stores, pawn shops, outdoors stores and other licensees, to perform a background check of the buyer and keep a record of the sale for any commercial sale, regardless of whether the sale takes place at the seller's regular place of business or at a gun show. Firearm sales between private individuals who reside in the same state – that is, sales in the "secondary market" and with an unlicensed seller – are exempt from these federal requirements. According to a statement by the United States Department of Justice in 2024, unlicensed dealers are a significant source of firearms that are illegally trafficked into communities.[12]

Twenty-two U.S. states, the District of Columbia, and all U.S. territories have laws that require background checks for some or all private sales, including sales at gun shows.

DirtyDishSoap wrote:folks love their guns and I'm not turning mine in anytime soon. There's a more general problem with the unhinged imo than the weapon itself.