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Who do you think would win, knight or samurai?

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:50 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Knight with plate and chain mail armor vs samurai in armor

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:54 pm
by static_ice
viking beats them both :)

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:56 pm
by misterman10
Samurai, no question

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 9:57 pm
by Blastshot
Even though this is a utterly and completly pointless thread i would have to say the knight, you cant beat a dude with a huge kick-ass sword, and a big sheild in shiny armour. Ive never seen a samuris armour

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:01 pm
by misterman10
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:02 pm
by Blastshot
misterman10 wrote:Image


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ohhhh, thats what samuris armor is...knight still whups em.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:03 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Blastshot wrote:Even though this is a utterly and completly pointless thread i would have to say the knight, you cant beat a dude with a huge kick-ass sword, and a big sheild in shiny armour. Ive never seen a samuris armour


Here's an image of Samurai armor.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:04 pm
by static_ice
actually it really depends on what kind of knights, english, spartan persian etc

anyone who has seen 300 would realize this

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:05 pm
by muy_thaiguy
damn you misterman! you posted it before I did!

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:06 pm
by misterman10
muy_thaiguy wrote:damn you misterman! you posted it before I did!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
I would suggest putting pics of each different kind of fighter in your first post

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:07 pm
by muy_thaiguy
static_ice wrote:actually it really depends on what kind of knights, english, spartan persian etc

anyone who has seen 300 would realize this
Spartans? They were called hoplites, not knights. Besides, 300 may be a good movie (just bought it today!), but it is not very historically (wrong spelling, I know) accurate. It's based off of a graphic novel.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:08 pm
by muy_thaiguy
misterman10 wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:damn you misterman! you posted it before I did!


:lol: :lol: :lol:
I would suggest putting pics of each different kind of fighter in your first post
(loud annoying voice) ahhh, shut it.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:09 pm
by static_ice
muy_thaiguy wrote:
static_ice wrote:actually it really depends on what kind of knights, english, spartan persian etc

anyone who has seen 300 would realize this
Spartans? They were called hoplites, not knights. Besides, 300 may be a good movie (just bought it today!), but it is not very historically (wrong spelling, I know) accurate. It's based off of a graphic novel.


of course, but it was very accurate in the way of showing how spartans kick persian knights' ass :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:12 pm
by muy_thaiguy
static_ice wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
static_ice wrote:actually it really depends on what kind of knights, english, spartan persian etc

anyone who has seen 300 would realize this
Spartans? They were called hoplites, not knights. Besides, 300 may be a good movie (just bought it today!), but it is not very historically (wrong spelling, I know) accurate. It's based off of a graphic novel.


of course, but it was very accurate in the way of showing how spartans kick persian knights' ass :lol:
Closest thing Persians EVER had to knights were the immortals, the only armor these guys had was paper thin and did very little in protecting them. Besides, Persians didn't wear helmets.

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:29 pm
by Blastshot
Whenever some1 says knights i always think of the knights decked out in chain mail, with plates on over that, with a one handed sword and a metal sheild.

On 300:
the persains sheilds were whicker if i remember right, they wore a light fabric over there face with a hood over that. I believe other than that they just had a robe with maybe a little whicker armour, nothing metal. Except their swords

PostPosted: Tue Jul 31, 2007 10:49 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Blastshot wrote:Whenever some1 says knights i always think of the knights decked out in chain mail, with plates on over that, with a one handed sword and a metal sheild.

On 300:
the persains sheilds were whicker if i remember right, they wore a light fabric over there face with a hood over that. I believe other than that they just had a robe with maybe a little whicker armour, nothing metal. Except their swords
Only immortals actually had armor, and not very good, as I said before.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:41 am
by Neutrino
Peasant with a crossbow and a few hours training beats them both. :lol:

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 12:48 am
by Honibaz
No trying to offend anybody, but what did Hecter do to make cena-rules and muy_thaiguy hate him(or her, not really sure) so much?

Honibaz

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:04 am
by Jenos Ridan
misterman10 wrote:Image


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The knight wins 7 out of ten battles due to superior technology. The Knight, 14th to 15th centuries I think, wears a full suit of interlocking steel plates. Any sword blow would have to be aimed at the small gaps of the joints. A Knight's own sword, as opposed to being swung, was rather thrust into such gaps when faced with another Knight. The Samurai Katana or sometimes the older Tashi, is a curved blade optimizing the slash and cut over the stap. Further, his armor is prodominately leather, which may well stop a swung blade, but a piercing attack is a different story.

Look up ARMA to get more research.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:06 am
by Jenos Ridan
Neutrino wrote:Peasant with a crossbow and a few hours training beats them both. :lol:


English or Welsh Longbowman with a lifetime of training eats Genoese crossbowmen for breakfast :twisted: !

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 1:08 am
by Jenos Ridan
Honibaz wrote:No trying to offend anybody, but what did Hecter do to make cena-rules and muy_thaiguy hate him(or her, not really sure) so much?

Honibaz


Might have something to do with why we're debating the combat merits of 14th-15th century knights and those of contemptorary Samurai.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 2:10 am
by Anarchy Ninja
Samurai are far superiour to knights, a muddy field would screw the knights over so bad and if I'm not mistaken samurai were around far earlier then knights or at least the heavily armoured version this thread refers to.

Also samurai should be able to move much faster and their swords are notorisly(sp) sharp, sharp enough to seperate a knights head from its shoulders I should think.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:36 am
by MR. Nate
I'd probably go with the Samurai, despite the lack of hefty amour. Samurai could carry bows, and as has been noted, a good bowman takes down a knight before he can do anything. Plus, lighter means more maneuverable, so the knight never catches him. If they get knocked off their horses, the knight is pretty much unable to move, where as the Samurai is just as effective.

PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:37 am
by unriggable
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2007 7:43 am
by freezie
A samurai with a original katana?

The samurai...No questions. The chain mail wouldn't stand a second..