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Ron Paul

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 4:59 am
by DaGip
What do you guys think of Ron Paul?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUeM3OIk_7U

Of course, Americans might be the only ones that really give a shit, but I wouldn't mind hearing from other people from other countries as well.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:44 am
by mybike_yourface
just another libertarian. pretending he's a reblican of sorts. they sometimes come so close to what i believe but they just can't make that leap.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 7:51 am
by Skittles!
Erm, who?

PostPosted: Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:06 am
by Kugelblitz22
If someone tied me up and made me vote Republican he would have my vote.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:59 am
by btownmeggy
FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!

And people think they're being progressive when they support him because he's anti-War. Bill Richardson wants to pull all US troops out of Iraq immediately, but he also doesn't want to dismantled the social safety net, like Ron Paul does.

I saw a car the other day with two bumper stickers. One was for Ron Paul. One was for the local public library. Did this idiot not realize that Ron Paul would like to shut down every public library??

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:11 am
by Norse
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.


I agree

Ron Paul seemed very resonable to me then. Pull out of Iraq, secure vulnerable borders, and treat Homo's and straighty-minge-lovers the same in the military.

I'd vote for him.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 1:23 pm
by Nephilim
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!

And people think they're being progressive when they support him because he's anti-War. Bill Richardson wants to pull all US troops out of Iraq immediately, but he also doesn't want to dismantled the social safety net, like Ron Paul does.

I saw a car the other day with two bumper stickers. One was for Ron Paul. One was for the local public library. Did this idiot not realize that Ron Paul would like to shut down every public library??

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:06 pm
by xtratabasco
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!




He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve (which is privatly owned) the CIA the DEA and toss the Patriot Act which is far from patriotic, and get the hell out of Iraq.

My kind of guy.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:10 pm
by Nephilim
xtratabasco wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!




He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve (which is privatly owned) the CIA the DEA and toss the Patriot Act which is far from patriotic, and get the hell out of Iraq.

My kind of guy.


and w/ that the discussion should be over.....

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:25 pm
by Som General
Liberterians are tight when it comes to most things but some things like dismantling public libraries and healthcare and for that matter even mass transit strike me as a little extreme.
I like the Idea of no patriot act, drug laws, and removal of several policing administrations.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:35 pm
by reverend_kyle
xtratabasco wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!




He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve (which is privatly owned) the CIA the DEA and toss the Patriot Act which is far from patriotic, and get the hell out of Iraq.

My kind of guy.


how does he feel about beaners?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:49 pm
by Avron
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.


Whoa, whoa wait, Its not?

If Ron Paul doesn't win I'm pretty sure I'm leaving the country. Not like any other countries are that much better.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:56 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Only problem I have with him, is that last time he ran as a Libertarian, now he is running as a Republican. :?

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:56 pm
by xtratabasco
reverend_kyle wrote:
xtratabasco wrote:
btownmeggy wrote:FACT: Ron Paul believes that the UN is a gay, Communist conspiracy to take over the world.

I AM NOT FUCKING KIDDING YOU!




He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve (which is privatly owned) the CIA the DEA and toss the Patriot Act which is far from patriotic, and get the hell out of Iraq.

My kind of guy.


how does he feel about beaners?



all illegals would be deported, and walls would be put up. he would also "de-power" the Feds and give back more power to the states.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:58 pm
by xtratabasco
muy_thaiguy wrote:Only problem I have with him, is that last time he ran as a Libertarian, now he is running as a Republican. :?


no hes never ran before.


He is a Doctor who is also a Congressman on the Republican ticket, but he is a Constitutionalist, the only reason he ran on the Republicans ticket was that he couldnt win running on the Constitution Partys ticket. duhhh

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:01 am
by Neutrino
xtratabasco wrote:

all illegals would be deported, and walls would be put up. he would also "de-power" the Feds and give back more power to the states.


Walls solve any and all problems, without fail.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 12:20 am
by Som General
Walls solve any and all problems, without fail.

that would be awesome we should make it out of stone and make it larger than the great wall of china so then we can knock them off the world wonders list

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:35 am
by Kugelblitz22
Only problem is we will have to get China to build it for us. It will be made out of Tin, Lead and Melamine.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 9:56 am
by btownmeggy
xtratabasco wrote:He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve


Yay, Zimbabwe, here we come!

I'll tell you, not that he'll EVER become President, but if he did there'd be one really good thing to come out of it: The Congress would curtail the power of the executive faster than you can say licketysplit! All the work of every President since FDR in trying to become a tyrant would be undone in a matter of hours.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:18 pm
by Nephilim
i'd like to hear some of the wannabe libertarians in this thread make even one decent argument for their position.....

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:45 pm
by Harijan
He also wants to do away with the evil Federal Reserve (which is privatly owned)


Source please. I believe this comment is flat wrong.

Just because its the internet doesn't mean your dumb-ass theories are true.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:52 pm
by Harijan
As for the original question,

Paul is not so bad as politicians go. He is better than most in this go-around because,

1. He knows what he actually wants to do as president (as opposed to just wanting to become president cause it seems like a cool job).
2. He can articulate what he believes is best for the country.
3. He has a general plan as to how he is going to reach his goals once he becomes president.

Like most politicians, I agree with some of his ideas, but not all of them. He has some interesting international policy proposals that seem rather insane, but his general idea of withdrawing from international efforts until we get our own house in order is very appealing to me.

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:01 pm
by xtratabasco
Nephilim wrote:i'd like to hear some of the wannabe libertarians in this thread make even one decent argument for their position.....



How about we just let Ron speak for himself.



Message from Ron Paul (9/20/07)

Dear friend,

Our American way of life is under attack. And it is up to us to save it.

The world's elites are busy forming a North American Union. If they succeed, as they did in forming the European Union, the good ol’ USA will only be a memory. We cannot let that happen.

The UN wants to confiscate our firearms and impose a global tax. The UN elites want to control the oceans with the Law of the Sea Treaty. And they want to use our military to police the world.

Our right to own and use property is fading because bureaucrats and special interests are abusing eminent domain.

Our right to educate our children as we choose is under assault. "No Child Left Behind" is seeing to that. And our right to say "no" to forced mental screening of our school-aged children is nearly gone.

The elites gave us a national ID card. They also gave us the most misnamed legislation in history: The Patriot Act. And these same people are pushing to give amnesty to illegal immigrants and erase our national borders.

Record government debt is putting a burden on our children and grandchildren that is shameful.

Yes. Our American way of life is under attack. And it's understandable that many are concerned, even discouraged, about the kind of country our children and grandchildren will inherit.

But we must never let discouragement become surrender.

One reason I am NOT discouraged is because I know I am not fighting alone. Each day I head out I know that you and thousands of other patriotic, freedom-loving Americans are right beside me, standing brave and true for what is good and right.

I need your help now, more than ever, to save the country we love...for the people we love.

My wife Carol and I celebrated our 50th wedding anniversary early this year. We are proud parents of five children and 18 grandchildren. We love them very much, as I know you love your family.

As a U.S. congressman, I always think about the well-being of my family and of all the families of our great nation when I cast a vote or introduce legislation. I also remember that I have sworn a solemn oath to uphold and protect the Constitution of the United States.

For me, upholding that oath is the first and best way to preserve and protect the blessed American way of life for our children and grandchildren.

And now you know why I'm running for president of the United States.

I ask for your help. Please send your maximum donation today by going to https://www.ronpaul2008.com/donate/ .

Sincerely,

Ron

Read the full article »

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:08 pm
by btownmeggy
Yep! I think that speaks for itself!

PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:13 pm
by xtratabasco
btownmeggy wrote:Yep! I think that speaks for itself!



yes cupcake, why dont you explain to us where hes wrong.


or you can go to http://www.infowars.com or http://www.prisonplanet.com and see where hes right.