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Ecological footprint

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:41 pm
by Iliad
http://www.epa.vic.gov.au/ecologicalfoo ... uction.asp
Go to that site and take the small test. Then find out how many earths are needed if every person in the 6 billion consumed as much as you did.

I got 2.4 :oops:

I should keep track

Radiojake: 1.7
Neutrino: 2.3
Iliad: 2.4
got tankaed: 2.8
Riggable: 3.5
mm10: 3.7

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:45 pm
by misterman10
3.7 planets

EDIT: I was mostly guessing as all the measurements were in metric :?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:50 pm
by radiojake
Pretty disgusting really.

Hopefully it won't be long before the entire destruction of Industrial Civilisation happens (and yes i honestly want that)

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:51 pm
by got tonkaed
would take 2.8 for me sadly...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:55 pm
by radiojake
1.7

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:56 pm
by riggable
3.5


neat. I doubt this test is very accurate though.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:57 pm
by cawck mongler
That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 10:59 pm
by got tonkaed
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:00 pm
by Iliad
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.

DUDE there is a button that says show help and the cities have their min-max temperatures.

And the cities are about obscure to us as New York, Las Vegas and Los Angeles is obscure to you.

That test is acccurate

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:02 pm
by cawck mongler
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:03 pm
by radiojake
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


Well why don't you think of it as a quick new geography test.

Also, they are the major Australian cities so they're not exactly obscure.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:03 pm
by Iliad
cawck mongler wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.

Aren't you a genius in geography! Dude it shows all the temperatures. You convert if you have to and you click on the right one!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:04 pm
by got tonkaed
cawck mongler wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.



well fortuantly for you....austrialian centigrade tempatures are the same as the rest of the world which can be converted to farenheit....on google actually..

i havent seen many of your posts but your one of the denser people ive come across on here.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:06 pm
by Iliad
And guys there is a poll.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:10 pm
by cawck mongler
Iliad wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.

Aren't you a genius in geography! Dude it shows all the temperatures. You convert if you have to and you click on the right one!


Right after I said only fags click help.

Iliad: HAI GUYZ GESS WUT I JST CLIKKED LMAO

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:12 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:13 pm
by Iliad
cawck mongler wrote:
Iliad wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.

Aren't you a genius in geography! Dude it shows all the temperatures. You convert if you have to and you click on the right one!


Right after I said only fags click help.

Iliad: HAI GUYZ GESS WUT I JST CLIKKED LMAO

dude you aren't funny, you aren't creative you are a stupid douchebag who knows nothing about geography, the enviroment and I don't you yo even care. You are a waster of food and space

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:14 pm
by got tonkaed
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).


leave it to a guy from wyoming to assume that ecological footprints are out of line....

if everyone needed 40 acres of land we need dozens of planets to live on.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:16 pm
by cawck mongler
Iliad wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:
Iliad wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:
cawck mongler wrote:That is the stupidest test I've ever taken, the very first question asked me what city my city is most like (maybe I live in the fucking country dumbass) and it only listed Australian cities. BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS VAST KNOWLEDGE ABOUT OBSCURE AUSTRALIAN CITIES RIGHT?

That's actually the high point of the test, there's no way I know how much fucking waste I produce, and I don't actually fucking measure how much fucking processed food I eat. And I'm sure this test was made by scientists and not some dumbass environmental hippie fags who don't know what the f*ck they're talking about.


google...do you use it?

its not hard to convert tempatures, espcially when they give you a list of temps for the given cities.

it can be interesting to look some of this stuff up, though im sure its veracity could be questioned.


Durr because I actually bothered clicking the hidden help button, usually help just means 'how do I click the button?', only fags click help.

And I did google until I realised they were all in fucking Australia.

Aren't you a genius in geography! Dude it shows all the temperatures. You convert if you have to and you click on the right one!


Right after I said only fags click help.

Iliad: HAI GUYZ GESS WUT I JST CLIKKED LMAO

dude you aren't funny, you aren't creative you are a stupid douchebag who knows nothing about geography, the enviroment and I don't you yo even care. You are a waster of food and space


I give a good reason why that test is shit. You respond by refuting one of my many points. I counter refute it with sound logic. You call me a douchebag. Good job boy, you sure won this argument.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:17 pm
by muy_thaiguy
got tonkaed wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).


leave it to a guy from wyoming to assume that ecological footprints are out of line....

if everyone needed 40 acres of land we need dozens of planets to live on.
Actually, I live in Laramie, a large city (at least in Wyoming it is), and I live in one of about 3 houses on my block not owned by the UW or Wyo Tech. But, it is nice out in the country, or in the mountains year round. :wink:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:18 pm
by Iliad
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).

stop chucking the "hippie" bomb and try to accept what's happening. The food, the electricity has to be created and that costs resources. And those resources aren't infinite and we are taking more and more of them.

If the current deforestation levels continue there would be no rainforests by the year 2040 in South America.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:26 pm
by cawck mongler
Iliad wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).

stop chucking the "hippie" bomb and try to accept what's happening. The food, the electricity has to be created and that costs resources. And those resources aren't infinite and we are taking more and more of them.

If the current deforestation levels continue there would be no rainforests by the year 2040 in South America.


Because everything happens on a linear scale, right? As products become more scarce, their price goes up and people stop buying, so our resources won't totally disappear and we'll adjust. That's capitalism working things out on its own, its sort of like how natural life goes on: predators hunt over hunt an area and then die off until that area can support them again.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:26 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Iliad wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).

stop chucking the "hippie" bomb and try to accept what's happening. The food, the electricity has to be created and that costs resources. And those resources aren't infinite and we are taking more and more of them.

If the current deforestation levels continue there would be no rainforests by the year 2040 in South America.
Jeez, chill Illy, was just a joke. :roll:

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:29 pm
by got tonkaed
cawck mongler wrote:
Iliad wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:Somehow, I'm not sure it is accurate. The quiz's name alone screams aging, liberal, hippie douchebag (one out of South Park there).

stop chucking the "hippie" bomb and try to accept what's happening. The food, the electricity has to be created and that costs resources. And those resources aren't infinite and we are taking more and more of them.

If the current deforestation levels continue there would be no rainforests by the year 2040 in South America.


Because everything happens on a linear scale, right? As products become more scarce, their price goes up and people stop buying, so our resources won't totally disappear and we'll adjust. That's capitalism working things out on its own, its sort of like how natural life goes on: predators hunt over hunt an area and then die off until that area can support them again.



the flaw with this entire premise is that people assume that capitalism will be able to stop something that has occured with the majority of societies that rose and failed before ours did. Leaders of companies are only respsonsible to their investors and profit margins....this is a core fundamental aspect of captialism. Frankly as prices go up, people (if you believe in the profit motive - which you do or youd be argue for communism) will dictate that people continue to use up resources because profits will be greater.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 01, 2007 11:35 pm
by radiojake
cawck mongler wrote:Because everything happens on a linear scale, right? As products become more scarce, their price goes up and people stop buying, so our resources won't totally disappear and we'll adjust. That's capitalism working things out on its own, its sort of like how natural life goes on: predators hunt over hunt an area and then die off until that area can support them again.


Our resources will totally disappear and we won't be able to adjust with this current rate of consumption. Capitalism working things out on it's own??? Hahaha! Capitalism's very essence is that it needs to continue producing and selling and making profit or it will collapse. It will suck every last fucking cent out of the ground and try selling it back to us for $5. Just wait til they find a way to tax oxygen. Sound stupid?? Well I'm sure as hell think that paying for food and a place to sleep (rent or mortgage) sounds pretty fucking stupid to me. Who the f*ck has the right to own land at all?? Assholes.

Also, predators over hunt an area and die off until that area can support them again?? That doesn't sound like a very natural cycle. Infact, that sounds like humans, not any other natural cycle. Animals (and alot of indigenous cultures (ie, not western)) would manage to live in an area and sustain the environment without overkill. That would mean going out and killing or collecting food - and only what you need to eat. Not (as it is nowadays) to go out and make as much money as possible (enter capitalism) - Where the end result is a gluttonous overkill over resources (and then western civilisation wastes all this excess food and resources. Ever gone dumpstering out the back on supermarket bins?? So much GOOD food thrown out every day because packaging is damaged or something bullshit like that. Go freegan!)