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Quick Question

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:39 pm
by ParadiceCity9
What does courtly excess mean? In terms of the decline of the Abbasid rule.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:41 pm
by got tonkaed
it means that as the prince and his court began to focus on more extravagant things they focused less and less on the things that were necesary to maintain control and they eventually lost their authority.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:43 pm
by ParadiceCity9
aright cool thanks.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:44 pm
by neoni
this is an excellent thread

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:45 pm
by ParadiceCity9
neoni wrote:this is an excellent thread


it's for homework you stupid ass hole i actually care about how i do in school.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:46 pm
by neoni
i wasn't being sarcastic. threads where somebody asks an esoteric question which is immediately answered always make me happy even if i don't care about the actual topic.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:48 pm
by ParadiceCity9
well you made it seem sarcastic.

and ya i dont care about the topic either...

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:48 pm
by neoni
i wish you the best of luck on your homework comrade

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:55 pm
by Dancing Mustard
neoni wrote:this is an excellent thread
Double thumbs-up!

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 5:56 pm
by The Weird One
spam

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:05 pm
by btownmeggy
got tonkaed wrote:they eventually lost their authority.


This isn't necessarily true. There are lots of cases of extreme "courtly excess" that haven't led to loss of authority. In the literature they're called the wonderfully racialized, exoticist term, "Sultanistic Regimes".

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:46 pm
by ParadiceCity9
btownmeggy wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:they eventually lost their authority.


This isn't necessarily true. There are lots of cases of extreme "courtly excess" that haven't led to loss of authority. In the literature they're called the wonderfully racialized, exoticist term, "Sultanistic Regimes".


actually the textbook is talking about how the Seljuk Turks invaded and kinda just, controlled the caliphs.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:48 pm
by got tonkaed
btownmeggy wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:they eventually lost their authority.


This isn't necessarily true. There are lots of cases of extreme "courtly excess" that haven't led to loss of authority. In the literature they're called the wonderfully racialized, exoticist term, "Sultanistic Regimes".


i dont disagree with that, but (and i could be wrong) but i always that it was part of the decline for the abbasids and it made sense within the context of the question.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:52 pm
by ParadiceCity9
since you guys seem to know everything about the abbasids...do you think you could tell me a little about the women during the abbasid era?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:52 pm
by Dancing Mustard
I hear that they didn't like spam much

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:53 pm
by ParadiceCity9
Dancing Mustard wrote:I hear that they didn't like spam much


thanks i'll write that. any other info you can give me?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:54 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Well that all depends on what kind of colour ink you were going to use to write your essay in...

did you have a colour in mind already, or where you still thinking about it?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:55 pm
by ParadiceCity9
probably gonna be maroon mixed with highlighter-green.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:57 pm
by Dancing Mustard
Yeah? What made you choose that particular combination?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:57 pm
by got tonkaed
ParadiceCity9 wrote:since you guys seem to know everything about the abbasids...do you think you could tell me a little about the women during the abbasid era?


i coudl be wrong but i thought it was in the abbasid period when women were increasingly forced to remain in the home and were required to wear veils in order to keep men from being defiled. It was a rather patrical system.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:57 pm
by ParadiceCity9
I saw the pen at a rite aid and i decided to buy it.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 7:05 pm
by Dancing Mustard
What's a rite aid? Is it kind of like Kool Aid.

You should write your essay in Kool Aid, I hear that's what old-skool arabs used to use. It'd get you points for authenticity.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:31 pm
by btownmeggy
got tonkaed wrote:it made sense within the context of the question.


Yes, yes, indeed. I was just saying... in general.

PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 9:44 pm
by got tonkaed
btownmeggy wrote:
got tonkaed wrote:it made sense within the context of the question.


Yes, yes, indeed. I was just saying... in general.


from what i know about the general history i certainly wouldnt disagree, there were a lot of occasions where there was a pretty impressive amount of wealth and it didnt really seem to have anyone miss a beat as far as keeping control.