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Re: Governments

Postby mybike_yourface on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:53 am

hecter wrote:FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

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MATRIXISM: There is no cow.


stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.
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Re: Governments

Postby Iliad on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:53 am

mybike_yourface wrote:
hecter wrote:FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

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MATRIXISM: There is no cow.


stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

it's only a joke don't get your panties in a wad :roll:
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Re: Governments

Postby mybike_yourface on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:55 am

hecter wrote:
radiojake wrote:
hecter wrote:PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.



Slightly wrong as anarchy is no government. Also, anarchy doesn't mean violence, its merely a widespread mis-conception.

So make up your own.


anarchism is about orginization from the bottom up. it's about voluntary cooperation without coercion and violence, not chaos.
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Re: Governments

Postby mybike_yourface on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:56 am

Iliad wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:
hecter wrote:FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

Source

MATRIXISM: There is no cow.


stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

it's only a joke don't get your panties in a wad :roll:

why isn't it funny if it's a joke?
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Re: Governments

Postby Iliad on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:59 am

mybike_yourface wrote:
Iliad wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:
hecter wrote:FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

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MATRIXISM: There is no cow.


stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

it's only a joke don't get your panties in a wad :roll:

why isn't it funny if it's a joke?

It is funny. Not my fault if you have no sense of humour
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Postby Skittles! on Tue Oct 16, 2007 1:59 am

Iliad, it's not that funny, actually. I take mybike_yourface's opinion on the matter...
Though, i thought Hecter had more sense with Anarchy than that.
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Postby Iliad on Tue Oct 16, 2007 2:05 am

Skittles! wrote:Iliad, it's not that funny, actually. I take mybike_yourface's opinion on the matter...
Though, i thought Hecter had more sense with Anarchy than that.

He didn't make that he just got it from that site
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:57 am

If we're going down the political philosophy route:

NIHILISM: You have two cows. It doesn't matter.

PURE CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You out-source your milk production to a Taiwanese sweatshop.

CONSERVATISM : You have two cows. It stays that way forever.

THATCHERISM: You have two cows. They go on strike and you crush their union.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:59 am

double post.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 6:59 am

Skittles! wrote:Cambodia is fucking tiny, even when not compared to the Soviet Union.

I still don't think Cambodia is Communist.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
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Postby Skittles! on Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:01 am

Guiscard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Cambodia is fucking tiny, even when not compared to the Soviet Union.

I still don't think Cambodia is Communist.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge

Ah, right. Now it makes more sense.
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Postby btownmeggy on Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:16 am

got tonkaed wrote:
spurgistan wrote:Seems like the state taking the cows in order to better the state, having you work to better the state. Everything for the state. I think it makes sense.


Yes, I guess that does make sense. I just usually consider the nation as taking more precedence in fascism than the state, but your statement and my ensuing investigation of the topic have thrown me into a philosophical conundrum. When is the nation and when is the nation not the state? To what extent can the nation exist without the state and vice versa? :shock:


its much easier in practicum than in abstract. Clearly the state can exist without the nation, since we have seen boundaries seemingly drawn free hand for the past few centuries now, with sometimes tragic results. However groups of people have existed without a state for a long time, and i dont think i have to come up with the two most obvious examples.


These "tragic results" undermine those "states" positions as real states, without the hegemony to monopolize use of force, manufacture consent, or, and here's the big one, invent a nation. Many multiethnic states have been effectively manipulated into nations by those with interest in doing so, usually statist elites, but also sometimes counter-statist elites. Having created a nation makes ruling a state so much easier!
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Postby btownmeggy on Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:17 am

Guiscard wrote:If we're going down the political philosophy route:

NIHILISM: You have two cows. It doesn't matter.

PURE CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You out-source your milk production to a Taiwanese sweatshop.

CONSERVATISM : You have two cows. It stays that way forever.

THATCHERISM: You have two cows. They go on strike and you crush their union.


:lol:

More, more!
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:29 am

US FOREIGN POLICY: You have two cows. The government attacks people who own pigs because it would be a safer world if everyone had two cows.
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Postby unriggable on Tue Oct 16, 2007 9:49 am

Guiscard wrote:US FOREIGN POLICY: You have two cows. The government attacks people who own pigs because it would be a safer world if everyone had two cows.


The truth hurts.
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Postby mr. incrediball on Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:22 am

Cambodia's a monarchy, isn't it?
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:02 pm

mr. incrediball wrote:Cambodia's a monarchy, isn't it?


Guiscard wrote:
Skittles! wrote:Cambodia is fucking tiny, even when not compared to the Soviet Union.

I still don't think Cambodia is Communist.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge
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Postby jako on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:11 pm

:lol:

guiscard, urs was even better.

love that last one.
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Postby Guiscard on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:25 pm

(tongue firmly in in cheek) LIBERALISM: You have two cows. You're not allowed to call the people with pigs any rude names related to their pig ownership.
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Re: Governments

Postby hecter on Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:32 pm

mybike_yourface wrote:
hecter wrote:FEUDALISM: You have two cows. Your lord takes some of the milk.

PURE SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and puts them in a barn with everyone else's cows. You have to take care of all of the cows. The government gives you as much milk as you need.

BUREAUCRATIC SOCIALISM: You have two cows. The government takes them and put them in a barn with everyone else's cows. They are cared for by ex-chicken farmers. You have to take care of the chickens the government took from the chicken farmers. The government gives you as much milk and eggs as the regulations say you need.

FASCISM: You have two cows. The government takes both, hires you to take care of them and sells you the milk.

PURE COMMUNISM: You have two cows. Your neighbors help you take care of them, and you all share the milk.

RUSSIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. You have to take care of them, but the government takes all the milk.

CAMBODIAN COMMUNISM: You have two cows. The government takes both of them and shoots you.

DICTATORSHIP: You have two cows. The government takes both and drafts you.

PURE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors decide who gets the milk.

REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY: You have two cows. Your neighbors pick someone to tell you who gets the milk.

BUREAUCRACY: You have two cows. At first the government regulates what you can feed them and when you can milk them. Then it pays you not to milk them. Then it takes both, shoots one, milks the other and pours the milk down the drain. Then it requires you to fill out forms accounting for the missing cows.

PURE ANARCHY: You have two cows. Either you sell the milk at a fair price or your neighbors try to take the cows and kill you.

LIBERTARIAN/ANARCHO-CAPITALISM: You have two cows. You sell one and buy a bull.

SURREALISM: You have two giraffes. The government requires you to take harmonica lessons.

Source

MATRIXISM: There is no cow.


stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

When did I say I either A. Made the about statements or B. Agreed with the above statements?
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Re: Governments

Postby Guiscard on Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:49 am

hecter wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

When did I say I either A. Made the about statements or B. Agreed with the above statements?


Either way, you really don't need to quote the entire post every time...
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Re: Governments

Postby hecter on Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:32 pm

Guiscard wrote:
hecter wrote:
mybike_yourface wrote:stupid post. and you clearly have no idea what anarchism is.

When did I say I either A. Made the about statements or B. Agreed with the above statements?


Either way, you really don't need to quote the entire post every time...

But then I wouldn't have been able to say "the above statements"...
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Postby Nobunaga on Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:11 pm

... American Liberalism:

... You worked hard and now you have 6 cows. The government then takes 4 of those cows and gives them two each to 2 lazy bastards in politically powerful minority voting blocks.

... Promises 5000 gallons of milk for each baby born in the US.
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Postby btownmeggy on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:15 am

Nobunaga wrote:...politically powerful minority voting blocks.


What have liberals got to do with Cuban-Americans, the economic super-elite, etc...?

Nobunaga wrote:... Promises 5000 gallons of milk for each baby born in the US.


Now that's sweet. I like that one.
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Postby Nobunaga on Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:11 pm

btownmeggy wrote:Now that's sweet. I like that one.


.... Damned liberal! :wink:
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