www.ussliberty.org

[Titanic]

my partners grandad was shot in the shoulder at monte casino in italy in ww2 from behind. he said that there were only US soldiers behind him as they had broken through german lines.

now assuming that the US soldier did not shoot him on purpose would make this incident a mistake or blue on blue as they now call it. lets face it US military blue on blues are a frequent occurance.

couldnt the liberty incident also be a mistake. or are you saying that all attacks against the US are deliberate.

my partners grandads advice after monte casino was 'never stand in front of an american with a gun'

well after you go over these reports I dont think you can compare it too 1 man.

http://www.gtr5.com/news.htm

The USA has a long history of friendly fire. They have killed and injured a lot of British troops (and probably others) in Iraq and Afghanistan. No offence, but with all that technology and fire power I think you get complacent on your discipline and intelligence.

Want to see a link which shows your planes bombed a British tank?

[diddle]

I can't see it.

Here, I'll quote it again, maybe it'll work for you this time.

if we keep quoting it, eventually it will work

[Iliad]

just google dancing Israelies and 911

I did that and it said "did you mean xtratabasco conspiracy theories"

[Frigidus]

I can't see it.

Here, I'll quote it again, maybe it'll work for you this time.

if we keep quoting it, eventually it will work

[Iz Man]

Boy am I tired......

[lord voldemort]

Boy am I tired......

me too....does anyone actually care what xtra is talking about???

[xtratabasco]

THESE THREADS SUCK

QFT

Then why do you guys continuously enter and complain??

I think all the Pickachu and nintendo threads suck, and the 'longest thread ever' thread sucks. But its pretty easy to avoid them (as I do) so do the same for these ones.

I for one, like xtra's threads. I don't know if its true and some of his stuff seems way out, but there's nothing wrong with hearing 'alternative' theories. Because let's face it, if you actually only ever believed the official government versions of events, you're just as stupid as someone who believes EVERY conspiracy theory that comes along

yeah, why do you keep spamming it? trying to reach 40,000 posts?

[Serbia]

Xtra has brought this up before. This is what I wrote in another thread at the time.

Ok, some more background B. K., I didn't realize there wasn't any real information from tabasco there (though I'm not surprised).

The incident happened during the 6 Day War in 1967. The USS Liberty was an intelligence gathering vessel (spy ship for the kids). Israel of course knew this. And they didn't want to be spied upon during the war. I don't pretend to know all the details, but it's obvious that for whatever reason, Israel didn't want information about their activities falling into American hands. Why, who knows. But warnings were made, probably not officially. (This is from my understanding of the incident, things I've read from the Israeli side). Keep in mind this was 1967, with the technology available at the time, they could act as though they didn't know what they had attacked more easily than they could now. Also, Israel was facing potential annihilation at the hands of the Arabs surrounding them, which is why they launched their surprise attack against them. (The surprise attack happened after the Arabs had already mobilized for their own planned invasion of Israel. Israel attacked preempitvely.) What that has to do with the attack on the USS Liberty exactly, I don't know. Perhaps we were supplying info to the Arabs, or at least, maybe that was the fear.

To add to this... yes, American sailors were killed, and I feel badly about that. Israel did warn the US before the attack. We didn't pull our ship back, for whatever reason, and Israel took matters into their own hands. But Xtra, lets give the entire story, shall we? The attack on the USS Liberty was not Israeli warmongering, or a thirst for blood. It was in their mind, an issue of national security. They were in the middle of a war for their very survival, and obviously felt threatened for whatever reason by the American spy boat off their coast.

I'd also like to point out that the chances of this being repeated nowadays are very slim, seeing as we have better relations with Israel, and frequently work together with them, the Israeli attack on the Syrian nuclear site a very recent example.

[xtratabasco]

Xtra has brought this up before. This is what I wrote in another thread at the time.

Ok, some more background B. K., I didn't realize there wasn't any real information from tabasco there (though I'm not surprised).

The incident happened during the 6 Day War in 1967. The USS Liberty was an intelligence gathering vessel (spy ship for the kids). Israel of course knew this. And they didn't want to be spied upon during the war. I don't pretend to know all the details, but it's obvious that for whatever reason, Israel didn't want information about their activities falling into American hands. Why, who knows. But warnings were made, probably not officially. (This is from my understanding of the incident, things I've read from the Israeli side). Keep in mind this was 1967, with the technology available at the time, they could act as though they didn't know what they had attacked more easily than they could now. Also, Israel was facing potential annihilation at the hands of the Arabs surrounding them, which is why they launched their surprise attack against them. (The surprise attack happened after the Arabs had already mobilized for their own planned invasion of Israel. Israel attacked preempitvely.) What that has to do with the attack on the USS Liberty exactly, I don't know. Perhaps we were supplying info to the Arabs, or at least, maybe that was the fear.

To add to this... yes, American sailors were killed, and I feel badly about that. Israel did warn the US before the attack. We didn't pull our ship back, for whatever reason, and Israel took matters into their own hands. But Xtra, lets give the entire story, shall we? The attack on the USS Liberty was not Israeli warmongering, or a thirst for blood. It was in their mind, an issue of national security. They were in the middle of a war for their very survival, and obviously felt threatened for whatever reason by the American spy boat off their coast.

I'd also like to point out that the chances of this being repeated nowadays are very slim, seeing as we have better relations with Israel, and frequently work together with them, the Israeli attack on the Syrian nuclear site a very recent example.

thanks for the reply...

this the best non-biased thing ive read in a long time, usually everyone is adamit that it did not happen.



but
Im waiting for the quote from a non-zionist paper that the leader of Iran is going to wipe the Jews off the face of the map.


When I have scene, he said that if the Jews attack Iran they will wipe them off the face of the map.

there is a big difference and nobody has a non-zionist link to show me.

[Titanic]

Xtra has brought this up before. This is what I wrote in another thread at the time.

Ok, some more background B. K., I didn't realize there wasn't any real information from tabasco there (though I'm not surprised).

The incident happened during the 6 Day War in 1967. The USS Liberty was an intelligence gathering vessel (spy ship for the kids). Israel of course knew this. And they didn't want to be spied upon during the war. I don't pretend to know all the details, but it's obvious that for whatever reason, Israel didn't want information about their activities falling into American hands. Why, who knows. But warnings were made, probably not officially. (This is from my understanding of the incident, things I've read from the Israeli side). Keep in mind this was 1967, with the technology available at the time, they could act as though they didn't know what they had attacked more easily than they could now. Also, Israel was facing potential annihilation at the hands of the Arabs surrounding them, which is why they launched their surprise attack against them. (The surprise attack happened after the Arabs had already mobilized for their own planned invasion of Israel. Israel attacked preempitvely.) What that has to do with the attack on the USS Liberty exactly, I don't know. Perhaps we were supplying info to the Arabs, or at least, maybe that was the fear.

To add to this... yes, American sailors were killed, and I feel badly about that. Israel did warn the US before the attack. We didn't pull our ship back, for whatever reason, and Israel took matters into their own hands. But Xtra, lets give the entire story, shall we? The attack on the USS Liberty was not Israeli warmongering, or a thirst for blood. It was in their mind, an issue of national security. They were in the middle of a war for their very survival, and obviously felt threatened for whatever reason by the American spy boat off their coast.

I'd also like to point out that the chances of this being repeated nowadays are very slim, seeing as we have better relations with Israel, and frequently work together with them, the Israeli attack on the Syrian nuclear site a very recent example.

How did you work with Israel to destroy the facility in Syria? From all the reports I read it sounded more like it was just Israel, because the USA has said very little as they are still deciding their stance on the subject.

[Serbia]

How did you work with Israel to destroy the facility in Syria? From all the reports I read it sounded more like it was just Israel, because the USA has said very little as they are still deciding their stance on the subject.

A majority of the stories had Israel going to Washington before the attack, to inform the Bush administration of what was going on before they did what they had planned. Bush wanted more evidence before signing off, which is the reasoning behind the Israeli commando raid, where they dressed as Syrian Security forces and stole some of the actual material from the site. That's when the US signed off, and in some of the stories I've read, we gave the Israeli Air Force our Air Force codes, so that there would be no mistakes in case our planes met in the air.

[xtratabasco]

Ive heard interviews with past Navy men on the USS Liberty, they may be in an archieve here

RBN radio

http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/

[Titanic]

How did you work with Israel to destroy the facility in Syria? From all the reports I read it sounded more like it was just Israel, because the USA has said very little as they are still deciding their stance on the subject.

A majority of the stories had Israel going to Washington before the attack, to inform the Bush administration of what was going on before they did what they had planned. Bush wanted more evidence before signing off, which is the reasoning behind the Israeli commando raid, where they dressed as Syrian Security forces and stole some of the actual material from the site. That's when the US signed off, and in some of the stories I've read, we gave the Israeli Air Force our Air Force codes, so that there would be no mistakes in case our planes met in the air.

Wow....never heard that story. You got a link which goes into more detail?

[Serbia]

It's been a few weeks now since I've read these stories, I'll snoop around and see if I can come up with anything.

[Serbia]

ABC News Story

Mentions possible American support

Jerusalem Post Story

Mentions a Mossad Mole at the Syrian site.

National Review Story

Scroll down near the end, under the heading "Reactor and More", where it specifically mentions a commando raid.

[DaGip]

all right all right, its a fucking yawner, however there seems to be a rush of threads about loving thye Jewish people in Israel and doing their bidding in this war.


I was just pointing out that more and more people are finding the zionists and Jews in Israel who love war distastefull to say the least and war mongers pushing the US to invade Iran, Syria etc. etc. at the worst and their track record and attacking the USS Liberty is more than reason to tell them to f*ck off.

just google dancing Israelies and 911

One word: LARRYSILVERSTIEN