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Is Scotland still a Country?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:52 pm
by Jesse710
Is Scotland still a country? Whenever I look on a map it isn't Labeled and it's part of Britan.
Thanks, Jesse710
Re: Is Scotland still a Country?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:55 pm
by Guiscard
Jesse710 wrote:Is Scotland still a country? Whenever I look on a map it isn't Labeled and it's part of Britan.
Thanks, Jesse710
Yes. It is. But it is also part of the British Isles, the United Kingdom and great Britain.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 3:57 pm
by suggs
More so than for wo hundred years, with the 1707 Act of Union abolishing the scots parliament.
Blair gave Scotland babck to the Scottish, its first minster is A Scots Independance member.
But its also still part of the United Kindom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Re: Is Scotland still a Country?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:00 pm
by DaGip
Jesse710 wrote:Is Scotland still a country? Whenever I look on a map it isn't Labeled and it's part of Britan.
Thanks, Jesse710
This should be a Poll question! I say Scotland is still its own country, but Scotland is a part of the United Kingdom. Here is what Wikipedia says about Scotland and some other countries that form the United Kingdom:
United Kingdom
The constituent countries of the United Kingdom are:[3]
England
Scotland
Wales
Northern Ireland
These four constituent countries of the United Kingdom are sometimes also referred to as the Home Nations. The Parliament of the United Kingdom and the government of the United Kingdom are at Westminster in England. They deal with reserved matters, and with legislation specifically for England but not on matters which have been devolved to the separate governments in the other constituent countries (see Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly Government and Northern Ireland Executive).
The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands are not part of the United Kingdom and are not represented in the United Kingdom Parliament. They are rather direct dependencies of the British Crown.
So in my opinion, and I am American, Scotland is a country.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:07 pm
by hrryflashman
This is not upf or debate.
FACT: Scotland is its own country.
As is England, Wales and Nothern Ireland.
But they are part of The United Kingdom.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:32 pm
by Jesse710
So what if a player on Conquer Club is Scottish will his flag be Scottish or what?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:33 pm
by Guiscard
Jesse710 wrote:So what if a player on Conquer Club is Scottish will his flag be Scottish or what?
The flag on the profiles is that of the United Kingdom, so he'd be British (as in from the UK).

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:33 pm
by Norse
Here is a slightly more accurate picture of the UK.


Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:34 pm
by unriggable
I hate the britain situation. People are too proud of their regions that they have to keep them apart.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:36 pm
by Guiscard
unriggable wrote:I hate the britain situation. People are too proud of their regions that they have to keep them apart.
Err... they're not 'regions' like you might have in the states. They've always been separate countries, even if at various points conquered by another.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:40 pm
by luns101
So now others are using the whole Venn Diagram thing...I hope you're proud of yourself, Stopper.


Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:42 pm
by Guiscard
luns101 wrote:So now others are using the whole Venn Diagram thing...I hope you're proud of yourself, Stopper.

Thats the first thing I thought of when reading the original post... shall I search for Stopper's original post or just google 'UK Venn diagram'.


Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:43 pm
by luns101
Guiscard wrote:luns101 wrote:So now others are using the whole Venn Diagram thing...I hope you're proud of yourself, Stopper.

Thats the first thing I thought of when reading the original post... shall I search for Stopper's original post or just google 'UK Venn diagram'.

What would be the most interesting is if Stopper could produce a Venn Diagram of some of the major poster's here on CC with their political beliefs. Now that would be something!

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:44 pm
by Jesse710
So basically it is a country inside a country?
Wow confusing. Why does it all have to be the UK.? Why can't they all be seperate on maps and stuff?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:45 pm
by Titanic
Its not really a country as it does not have the political system of a country. It has limited powers politically which are controlled by the British government.
In other ways such as culturally it is its own country.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:48 pm
by RobinJ
Scotland is a country: fact. It is not an entirely free country but it is a country nonetheless. It is a part of the UK for the moment at least, although if the SNP can have its way then things would be different... oh how they all seem to hate the English... (now where has that been said before?

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Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:48 pm
by Guiscard
Jesse710 wrote:So basically it is a country inside a country?
Wow confusing. Why does it all have to be the UK.? Why can't they all be seperate on maps and stuff?
No. Four
countries. One
Kingdom.
They're all countries who have separate parliaments for some regional issues, but are also governed from Westminster as a whole.
The reason they're not separate on maps sometimes is because it goes by the larger political entity of the UK.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:50 pm
by Norse
Sorry, this is clearer


Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 4:54 pm
by graeme89
It's no wonder people get confused, in football and rugby we compete as seperate nations but in the olympics it's GB.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:38 pm
by KingPrime
we britains like to confuse all the world, but then we also get confused on the same thing.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:43 pm
by soundout9
So scottland is its on idividual country or is it more of a state or territory of UK

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:45 pm
by UnderSeage
Scotland is where the fairies and but pirates live right?

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:46 pm
by Guiscard
soundout9 wrote:So scottland is its on idividual country or is it more of a state or territory of UK
For fucks sake, just wikipedia it.

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:49 pm
by suggs
soundout9 wrote:So scottland is its on idividual country or is it more of a state or territory of UK
Guiscards point above is the best summary.
But confusingly, it is an individual country WITHIN the UK-which, as Guscard pointed out, is the kingdom.
"England for the English..." (Morrissey)
"Take down the Union Jack" (Billy Bragg)

Posted:
Fri Nov 02, 2007 5:50 pm
by Norse
soundout9 wrote:So scottland is its on idividual country or is it more of a state or territory of UK
Scotland has it's own parliament, governs itself to a great degree, and has it's own seperate identity. It is subsidised by england economy, and takes out than what it contributes...
I would drop them altogether if it was my choice, as well as the welsh. Nothing personal.
However, I would give northern Ireland the oppurtunity to remain in a union with england.