Conquer Club

So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

you put it in a nutshell for us!

Meh, we have stranger holidays. I'm thankful that I wasn't on the other end.

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Not all settlers were like that.

The problem is the same as what is going on now.

The ones in power are even more power-hungry, so the entirety of the race, group, or nationality are blamed for it.

Not all settlers wanted to screw them over, but they were sheep and followed their leaders. You probably would too if it was your parents or relatives telling you to listen to them.

Now, my family wasn't here, then... And my ancestors that were lived in New mexico and Mexico, so they didn't really care... at least not then.

No holidays make sense, FYI.

Halloween is a harvest holiday: our culture forces adults to buy candy so kids can eat it.

My birthday was on thanksgiving two years ago :)

Anarkistsdream wrote:

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Not all settlers were like that.

The problem is the same as what is going on now.

The ones in power are even more power-hungry, so the entirety of the race, group, or nationality are blamed for it.

Not all settlers wanted to screw them over, but they were sheep and followed their leaders. You probably would too if it was your parents or relatives telling you to listen to them.

Now, my family wasn't here, then... And my ancestors that were lived in New mexico and Mexico, so they didn't really care... at least not then.

Exactly, nobody steppd up. It doesn't matter if they weren't power-hungry, they didn' try to stop injustice, so they are still responsible. Just cuz you didn't do the deed doesn't mean your innocent.

jnd94 wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Not all settlers were like that.

The problem is the same as what is going on now.

The ones in power are even more power-hungry, so the entirety of the race, group, or nationality are blamed for it.

Not all settlers wanted to screw them over, but they were sheep and followed their leaders. You probably would too if it was your parents or relatives telling you to listen to them.

Now, my family wasn't here, then... And my ancestors that were lived in New mexico and Mexico, so they didn't really care... at least not then.

Exactly, nobody steppd up. It doesn't matter if they weren't power-hungry, they didn' try to stop injustice, so they are still responsible. Just cuz you didn't do the deed doesn't mean your innocent.

Tell that to the Cambodians... or the Chinese...

You can't necessarily stand up for yourself if your government and all the soldiers are kicking your ass.

unriggable wrote:No holidays make sense, FYI.

Halloween is a harvest holiday: our culture forces adults to buy candy so kids can eat it.

My birthday was on thanksgiving two years ago :)

Halloween means more than that... Well, Samhain does.

New Years makes sense... Even though the TIMING of New years doesn't...

Christmas makes sense, though the true holiday is not followed.

Valentines Day... NO SENSE

St Patty's Day... NO SENSE!

True, I wasn't there to see it actually, but I never heard about groups that protested this whole thing. You would think that a few people with morals would atleast try to tell the government at the time.

jnd94 wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Not all settlers were like that.

The problem is the same as what is going on now.

The ones in power are even more power-hungry, so the entirety of the race, group, or nationality are blamed for it.

Not all settlers wanted to screw them over, but they were sheep and followed their leaders. You probably would too if it was your parents or relatives telling you to listen to them.

Now, my family wasn't here, then... And my ancestors that were lived in New mexico and Mexico, so they didn't really care... at least not then.

Exactly, nobody steppd up. It doesn't matter if they weren't power-hungry, they didn' try to stop injustice, so they are still responsible. Just cuz you didn't do the deed doesn't mean your innocent.

Keep in mind the level of technology and prosperity of Americans at the time. A good deal of the country was busy working to put food on the table and/or didn't know how cruel the Trail of Tears was.

Trail of Tears wasn't until the 1800s, but thanks.

Anarkistsdream wrote:Trail of Tears wasn't until the 1800s, but thanks.

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

Well, the Trail of Tears does fall into the steal their land and kill them category. And you can't really blame Americans (the people that celebrate Thanksgiving) for anything up until the late 1700's anyways since everyone before them was technically a subject of foreign countries. I guess the Trail was just the best (more like worst I suppose) example of murdering Native Americans considering the huge amount of death.

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

You're free to leave.........
There's a thought

Iz Man wrote:

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

You're free to leave.........
There's a thought

Im sure the Native Americans shared your sentiments

unriggable wrote:No holidays make sense, FYI.

Halloween is a harvest holiday: our culture forces adults to buy candy so kids can eat it.

My birthday was on thanksgiving two years ago :)

our kid-centered culture forces adults to buy candy so the candy companies can make lots of money.
you'll find this is true with lots of american holidays. It's called capitalism. Its rampant.
and horrible.
and yet, so invariably addicting, we all follow it without thinkink, or caring.

its because getting candy on halloween is so much fun, and getting presents on christmas is so standard, and giving gifts to your girlfriends on valentines day is so essential, that trying to do otherwise is competely against the rules.

comic boy wrote:

Iz Man wrote:

jnd94 wrote:So, we come to America, trick the Native Americans, steal their land, and then kill them. Then we make up a fake story about friendship and corn, so that our children don't think we are monsters. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

You're free to leave.........
There's a thought

Im sure the Native Americans shared your sentiments

As the Argentinians, Indians, people of Barbados, Austrailians, and all other victims of English "colonization" throughout the world to the English.
Or the people of the Americas to the Spanish.
Or the Jews and other Euros to the Germans.
Or the Poles and Eastern Europeans to the Russians.
Or the Phillipinos to the Japanese.
Or the Taiwanese to the Chinese.
Or the African tribes amongst each other.
Or the American Indians amongst themselves.

Or does your statement only apply to white "future Americans"?

You people need to get a dose of reality.

The American Thanksgiving holiday is not about the celebration of "white's dominance over the poor, peaceful, native tribes of the Americas", as you typical guilt ridden liberals like to spout.
It's about giving thanks for what we all have: life, family, friends, etc. Just as those pilgrims were giving thanks; for if it were not for the help of some of the natives, they probably would not have survived.

Anarkistsdream wrote:

unriggable wrote:No holidays make sense, FYI.

Halloween is a harvest holiday: our culture forces adults to buy candy so kids can eat it.

My birthday was on thanksgiving two years ago :)

Halloween means more than that... Well, Samhain does.

New Years makes sense... Even though the TIMING of New years doesn't...

Christmas makes sense, though the true holiday is not followed.

Valentines Day... NO SENSE

St Patty's Day... NO SENSE!

i tend to think pleanty of hollidays make sense. especially if you know the meaning behind them and celebrate them in apagan sense. celebrating them as Yule and Eoster as "cristian hollidays" is pretty stupid.