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Neutrino wrote:Tyr wrote:doubt it most people are satisfied with capitilism and those who arent are usually from the upper class
Huh? I'd say those that are are the wealthier parts of the population. They're the ones to whom Capitalism has been of direct benifit too. It's the poorer parts who are fed up with a system that only disadvantages them.
Tyr wrote:i dont think so. most often the supporters of a popular overthrow by the wroking poor is supported by young idealistic upper class liberals
nmhunate wrote:Speak English... It is the language that God wrote the bible in.
RobinJ wrote:Communism does not work - simple as that. The ideas of Karl Marx were much too idealistic. In a perfect world where everyone is nice to everyone else, communism would work a treat. But because humans are humans, we have ambitions and want to be better than others. It is better that we have some structure in society. There is also a great problem with jobs. Why be a doctor, or some other higly qualified profession, when you can get the same return for being a binman or whatever. (No offence to binmen - they do a job most of us would never do and for that I admire them - but it does not require any form of qualifications or learning).
The USSR proved that communism does not work. It was only often united because of the fear and intimidation it was ruled by. Communism and facism are opposites but if you look at Stalin and Hitler - they led very similar lives, because all either wanted was complete power (which, ironically, is completely against the ethics of communismm.)
Tyr wrote:
it doesnt disadvantage anyone hard work is rewarded by prosperity lower classes dont see a barrier between upper and lower classes they see a bridge
Neutrino wrote:Tyr wrote:
it doesnt disadvantage anyone hard work is rewarded by prosperity lower classes dont see a barrier between upper and lower classes they see a bridge
Tell that to all the people who have to work 10 hours a day to keep themselves fed. Or the people who have to leave school to get a job to keep themselves and their dependants from starving.
Capitalism only really benifits those with extraordinary talents, good luck, or the right parents. For anyone else, it's an uphill struggle.
Tyr wrote:lifes not easy its not meant to be and i have all to much expierience with lower class struggles i dont need a lecture on it
Tyr wrote:lifes not easy its not meant to be and i have all to much expierience with lower class struggles i dont need a lecture on it
mybike_yourface wrote:all government is much the same in my eyes. i want real freedom.
heavycola wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:Man, this thread was great. A whopping 230 pages with noone changing their viewpoint.
I actually converted around page 198. Unfortunately, I converted to satanism.
Neutrino wrote:Tyr wrote:lifes not easy its not meant to be and i have all to much expierience with lower class struggles i dont need a lecture on it
Then why do you say things which are blatantly incorrect?
Tyr wrote:Neutrino wrote:Tyr wrote:lifes not easy its not meant to be and i have all to much expierience with lower class struggles i dont need a lecture on it
Then why do you say things which are blatantly incorrect?
what have i said thats incorrect
Tyr wrote:doubt it most people are satisfied with capitilism and those who arent are usually from the upper class
Tyr wrote:i dont think so. most often the supporters of a popular overthrow by the wroking poor is supported by young idealistic upper class liberals
Tyr wrote:
it doesnt disadvantage anyone hard work is rewarded by prosperity lower classes dont see a barrier between upper and lower classes they see a bridge
Tyr wrote:i dont need a sob story either i got plenty of my own but its not capitilism that makes your life hard theirs probaly something else also, a divorce lack of schooling, alcholism, drug problem. you cant blame your problems on capitalism
Chris7He wrote:One day the proletariat will over throw the oppresive capitalists.
Tyr wrote:it doesnt matter if the majority is trusted or not a majority vote always wins thats the way it works if 6 out of ten want to make prostitution legal its gonna be legal doesnt matter if its right or not
Tyr wrote:it doesnt matter if the majority is trusted or not a majority vote always wins thats the way it works if 6 out of ten want to make prostitution legal its gonna be legal doesnt matter if its right or not
Tyr wrote:by definition its not tyranny
Wayne wrote:Wow, with a voice like that Dancing Mustard must get all the babes!
Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
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