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Is bush a good or bad president?

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Postby jay_a2j on Fri Aug 18, 2006 10:04 am

reverend_kyle wrote:cough cough flip flopper cough cough.




You Dems are experts on "flip floping". The difference here is Calebs not running for office, thus its just changing your position on an issue rather than changing it to get elected. :wink:
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Sat Aug 19, 2006 2:27 pm

jay_a2j wrote: Dems are experts on "flip floping". The difference here is Calebs not running for office, thus its just changing your position on an issue rather than changing it to get elected. :wink:

I've noticed that too how Democrats change policy during major election years.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:33 am

kwolff wrote:9-11 shouldnt have happened to begin with , but billy clinton let them get away with a couple of attacks with a slap on the wirst (while he was slaping something off of monicas face), here bin take these tomahawk missles on your base .....ooooooo now theyre finished off.


omg, I remember when he did bomb Osama bin Ladin, everyone yelled at him saying it was to draw attention away from Monica Lewinski, which the public had no business knowing about!! countless presidents (democrat, republican, whig, democratic republican etc.) have had affairs while in office and Clinton was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Plus, the seeds of Al Quaeda were planted when WE sold them ARMS to keep the Russians occupied.

Clinton actually warned Bush about Osama bin Ladin when Bush started his presidency, but all Bush cared about was finding a reason to attack Iraq, if Bush had spent an ounce of effort finishing up what clinton started instead of looking for ways to fill his pockets we might have had a better chance of diverting this mess (if it could even have been diverted)
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:44 am

cowshrptrn wrote:
kwolff wrote:9-11 shouldnt have happened to begin with , but billy clinton let them get away with a couple of attacks with a slap on the wirst (while he was slaping something off of monicas face), here bin take these tomahawk missles on your base .....ooooooo now theyre finished off.


omg, I remember when he did bomb Osama bin Ladin, everyone yelled at him saying it was to draw attention away from Monica Lewinski, which the public had no business knowing about!! countless presidents (democrat, republican, whig, democratic republican etc.) have had affairs while in office and Clinton was just at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Plus, the seeds of Al Quaeda were planted when WE sold them ARMS to keep the Russians occupied.

Clinton actually warned Bush about Osama bin Ladin when Bush started his presidency, but all Bush cared about was finding a reason to attack Iraq, if Bush had spent an ounce of effort finishing up what clinton started instead of looking for ways to fill his pockets we might have had a better chance of diverting this mess (if it could even have been diverted)






First of all Clinton bombed Serbia not Osama binLaden. Secondly Clinton "warned" Bush about Osama? How about in 1998 Clinton had a chance to ARREST Osama but passed.

The only thing Clinton started was 4 play in the Oval Office. He was a do nothing president! His foriegn policy? Sell North Korea nuke secrets in exchange for a "promise" that they won't build them. Lets not forget 911 took YEARS of planning and Bush had only been in office for 8 months.
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Postby cowshrptrn on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:47 am

sorry for the double post, but i needed to respond to the extreme narrow mindedness of some ppl

Caleb the Cruel wrote:I've noticed that too how Democrats change policy during major election years.


Well democrats are FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, they don't just hand out tax cuts left and right while we go into trillions in debt for our grandkids to pay off!! They do, like ANY politician, start trying to get reelected in election years (at least democrats don't gerrymander, they win the hard way, by actually campaigning and earning votes).

I'm just curious, how many presidents have you actually lived through? my guess is just clinton who changed his policies once we hit a huge surplus which bush squandered in record time! and Bush, who drastically changed his policies once he got reelcted ( in essence he was on reelection mode for 4 years, instead of being on try not to f*ck up this country too much mode for 3, and election for 1)
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Postby jay_a2j on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:53 am

cowshrptrn wrote:
Well democrats are FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, they don't just hand out tax cuts left and right while we go into trillions in debt for our grandkids to pay off!! They do, like ANY politician, start trying to get reelected in election years (at least democrats don't gerrymander, they win the hard way, by actually campaigning and earning votes).



No, Democrate just tax the hell out of the rich to fund never-ending social programs for the poor. All in an effort to KEEP them poor! Because if they start to do well, guess what? They become Republicans after seeing the TAXES taken out of their checks! If the poor are no longer poor, the democrats LOSE VOTES! Which is why welfare is DESIGNED to keep people poor!

I'm just curious, how many presidents have you actually lived through? my guess is just clinton who changed his policies once we hit a huge surplus which bush squandered in record time! and Bush, who drastically changed his policies once he got reelcted ( in essence he was on reelection mode for 4 years, instead of being on try not to f*ck up this country too much mode for 3, and election for 1)




You need to get out of the "I hate Bush cause Michael Moore told me too" mode. :wink:
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Postby vtmarik on Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:57 am

jay_a2j wrote:No, Democrate just tax the hell out of the rich to fund never-ending social programs for the poor. All in an effort to KEEP them poor! Because if they start to do well, guess what? They become Republicans after seeing the TAXES taken out of their checks! If the poor are no longer poor, the democrats LOSE VOTES! Which is why welfare is DESIGNED to keep people poor!


It was a Democrat who not only managed to create a balanced budget, but create a budget surplus for the first time in around 50 years. Clinton may have gotten in an improper relationship with a White House employee, but at least he knew how to run the country. Why do you think his job approval numbers were so high?
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Postby heavycola on Sun Aug 20, 2006 4:53 am

jay_a2j wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:
Well democrats are FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, they don't just hand out tax cuts left and right while we go into trillions in debt for our grandkids to pay off!! They do, like ANY politician, start trying to get reelected in election years (at least democrats don't gerrymander, they win the hard way, by actually campaigning and earning votes).



No, Democrate just tax the hell out of the rich to fund never-ending social programs for the poor. All in an effort to KEEP them poor! Because if they start to do well, guess what? They become Republicans after seeing the TAXES taken out of their checks! If the poor are no longer poor, the democrats LOSE VOTES! Which is why welfare is DESIGNED to keep people poor!


You need to get out of the "I hate Bush cause Michael Moore told me too" mode. :wink:


I have never heard anything so utterly mad. Don;t spew a lot of stuff that might make rush limbaugh think twice and then patronise anyone who might disagree by accusing them of having Michael Moore make their decisions...

Rush Limbaugh/Michael Moore? both fat, overpaid, propagandist, prejudice-reinforcing liars. Neither of them do any good. They certainly don;t change any minds.
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Postby jay_a2j on Mon Aug 21, 2006 9:55 am

heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:
Well democrats are FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE, they don't just hand out tax cuts left and right while we go into trillions in debt for our grandkids to pay off!! They do, like ANY politician, start trying to get reelected in election years (at least democrats don't gerrymander, they win the hard way, by actually campaigning and earning votes).



No, Democrate just tax the hell out of the rich to fund never-ending social programs for the poor. All in an effort to KEEP them poor! Because if they start to do well, guess what? They become Republicans after seeing the TAXES taken out of their checks! If the poor are no longer poor, the democrats LOSE VOTES! Which is why welfare is DESIGNED to keep people poor!


You need to get out of the "I hate Bush cause Michael Moore told me too" mode. :wink:


I have never heard anything so utterly mad. Don;t spew a lot of stuff that might make rush limbaugh think twice and then patronise anyone who might disagree by accusing them of having Michael Moore make their decisions...

Rush Limbaugh/Michael Moore? both fat, overpaid, propagandist, prejudice-reinforcing liars. Neither of them do any good. They certainly don;t change any minds.



Yeah, sometimes the truth is painful. :wink:
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Postby happysadfun on Mon Aug 21, 2006 11:21 am

I wrote:I'm a Republican, see the "To Jay" thread by R Kyle.
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Postby heavycola on Mon Aug 21, 2006 12:14 pm

no, this...

If the poor are no longer poor, the democrats LOSE VOTES! Which is why welfare is DESIGNED to keep people poor!


...is insane. Please tell me you don't actually believe that the welfare system exists to keep poor voters in poverty. That's not republicanism, that's tinfoil hat scary.
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Postby Caleb the Cruel on Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:35 pm

cowshrptrn wrote:I'm just curious, how many presidents have you actually lived through?

just for your information...
carter (even though i don't really remember)
reagan
bush sr.
clinton
bush jr.
i'm betting you cannot say the same for yourself
you seem like you were not born before the bush sr. years, just assuming from the way you write your posts
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Postby reverend_kyle on Mon Aug 21, 2006 7:44 pm

Caleb the Cruel wrote:
cowshrptrn wrote:I'm just curious, how many presidents have you actually lived through?

just for your information...
carter (even though i don't really remember)
reagan
bush sr.
clinton
bush jr.
i'm betting you cannot say the same for yourself
you seem like you were not born before the bush sr. years, just assuming from the way you write your posts


Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.

here..... I remember the clinton and the Bush Jr. days and I can sure tell which ones our country was better off during.
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Postby vtmarik on Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:38 pm

reverend_kyle wrote:Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.

here..... I remember the clinton and the Bush Jr. days and I can sure tell which ones our country was better off during.


Same here.
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Postby jay_a2j on Mon Aug 21, 2006 10:38 pm

vtmarik wrote:
reverend_kyle wrote:Bush Sr.
Clinton
Bush Jr.

here..... I remember the clinton and the Bush Jr. days and I can sure tell which ones our country was better off during.


Same here.



Duh? Does 911 ring a bell?
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