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Help with paper

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:41 pm
by Chris7He
I have to write a report comparing Hitler and Stalin. Can someone show me some information and sources?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:43 pm
by muy_thaiguy

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:44 pm
by Chris7He
Interesting. I haven't seen any of those sites before...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:44 pm
by Napoleon Ier

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:45 pm
by Chris7He


I want to get an A, not get suspended for plagiarism and cheating. Using someone elses' essay is defined as cheating...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:45 pm
by Guiscard
Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:45 pm
by Chris7He
Napoleon Ier wrote:http://www.hitler.com/


Lolz

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:46 pm
by got tonkaed
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


shit....did we freeze them or something?

I was really counting on those guys being dead the first time around, not cropping back up 900 years later.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:46 pm
by Skittles!
We're in the 29th century? Excellent.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:47 pm
by Chris7He
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


Well. I don't have any damn time left. I procrastinated.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:48 pm
by Chris7He
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


Maybe you should do some reading...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:54 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Chris7He wrote:
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


Maybe you should do some reading...


You bastard. Be a little tolerant spoilt child. Some people haven't had the privelige of a decent education....

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:57 pm
by Chris7He
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


Maybe you should do some reading...


You bastard. Be a little tolerant spoilt child. Some people haven't had the privelige of a decent education....


Actually, this is the only time I've asked for help on the internet or tried to use others. I do pretty well on my own. This year, we had to do research on our own instead of in class and we we'ren't allowed to use wikipedia.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:59 pm
by Chris7He
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Chris7He wrote:
Guiscard wrote:Or, alternatively, do some fucking reading. Probably two of the most famous leaders of the 29th Century. Shouldn't be too hard, eh?


Maybe you should do some reading...


You bastard. Be a little tolerant spoilt child. Some people haven't had the privelige of a decent education....


Sometimes I wish I were a terrorist trainee or growing up to fight in a genocidal government or joining the Red Guard in China, but that's not gonna happen, is it?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 8:59 pm
by got tonkaed
considering by all accounts tommorow is still the weekend, you probably could do a fair amount of looking up information still. There are probably plenty good academic sources you could get if you did a reasonable search in an academic search engine, or truth be told, if you asked guiscard nice hed probably hunt something down of his databases for ya.

*as an aside, my making fun of him was funnier than the attempts which followed after me*

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:01 pm
by Chris7He
got tonkaed wrote:considering by all accounts tommorow is still the weekend, you probably could do a fair amount of looking up information still. There are probably plenty good academic sources you could get if you did a reasonable search in an academic search engine, or truth be told, if you asked guiscard nice hed probably hunt something down of his databases for ya.

*as an aside, my making fun of him was funnier than the attempts which followed after me*


I have to turn the information into writing...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:05 pm
by got tonkaed
well thats actually the easy part, you just write your essay at that point.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:13 pm
by Chris7He
Right now i'm trying to find stuff about Stalin's father.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:20 pm
by dacey
You know, "don't use wikipedia" means don't cite wikipedia. You can still read the information there, which is supposed to be cited. So when you find something interesting on the wikipedia entry, see where it came from and then cite that. Its pretty straightforward.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:25 pm
by Chris7He
dacey wrote:You know, "don't use wikipedia" means don't cite wikipedia. You can still read the information there, which is supposed to be cited. So when you find something interesting on the wikipedia entry, see where it came from and then cite that. Its pretty straightforward.


Nothing wikipedia. period.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:35 pm
by dacey
No, the entire point of what I said is that the teacher is completely not able to tell that you got your information from that site.
For instance, you wand to write this about Stalin "Stalin's increasing control of the Party from 1928 onwards led to his becoming the de facto party leader and the dictator of his country." Instead of quoting, paraphrase, then click the little 2 (or whatever postscript is there) and cite what the citation listed is. Its pretty simple.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:38 pm
by Chris7He
dacey wrote:No, the entire point of what I said is that the teacher is completely not able to tell that you got your information from that site.
For instance, you wand to write this about Stalin "Stalin's increasing control of the Party from 1928 onwards led to his becoming the de facto party leader and the dictator of his country." Instead of quoting, paraphrase, then click the little 2 (or whatever postscript is there) and cite what the citation listed is. Its pretty simple.


I know, but I can't find anything on his damn father (the page got no citations.)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:45 pm
by dacey
Well, if you really need information about his father (maybe not? It's about Stalin and Hitler, not their families), then google him. Or you might be able to find brief information about the father's in the children's biographies.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 9:48 pm
by Chris7He
dacey wrote:Well, if you really need information about his father (maybe not? It's about Stalin and Hitler, not their families), then google him. Or you might be able to find brief information about the father's in the children's biographies.


On Stalin's father, I have it, but I'm kinda stuck on what to do next...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 10:00 pm
by dacey
I'm in the same situation with not knowing where I want to go in the paper, but I have to write a paper about why a variation of Victorian morality would be better for society and individuals today than both Victorian morality and our currently values (or lack there of, haha). Sucks pretty bad, huh?

Anyway, sometimes what helps me is to find quotes that I really want to use in my essay, then I sort of connect the dots to get to that point. So find something interesting you want to include and work your way to that, and include whatever you have to to get there.