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Enjoy Your Freedom...While It Lasts.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 10:18 pm
by jay_a2j
Well everyone, we've been conned again!

WAKE UP NOW!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 11:15 pm
by sangfroid
The committee doesn't in itself have powers, just an advisory capacity and this bill doesn't extend the powers of Homeland Security any, so what's your issue?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:19 am
by heavycola
Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 5:47 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.

5-10 years from now, you will see that all this is true.... unfortunately by then, you'll either be dead or their slave.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:08 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:22 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?





The answer you seek, is at the end of THIS VIDEO.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:25 am
by Neutrino
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.

5-10 years from now, you will see that all this is true.... unfortunately by then, you'll either be dead or their slave.


See: History.
The largest hole in your theory (not that there is much theory) is that you are implying tht a few hundred thousand soldiers are going to occupy the entire world. I suppose THEY could mobilise more soldiers in a pinch, but there is no way THEY can afford to keep them active perminantly. If the US can't even keep most of the world pacified, how are THEY planning too?
Look Jay, history is littered with rulers who tried to expand their empire too far. Most of 'em barely got a few hundred kilometres from their homeland before collapsing. How can THEY concievably rule the entire world under their iron fist when so many have failed before them trying the same thing?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:37 am
by jay_a2j
Neutrino wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.

5-10 years from now, you will see that all this is true.... unfortunately by then, you'll either be dead or their slave.


See: History.
The largest hole in your theory (not that there is much theory) is that you are implying tht a few hundred thousand soldiers are going to occupy the entire world. I suppose THEY could mobilise more soldiers in a pinch, but there is no way THEY can afford to keep them active perminantly. If the US can't even keep most of the world pacified, how are THEY planning too?
Look Jay, history is littered with rulers who tried to expand their empire too far. Most of 'em barely got a few hundred kilometres from their homeland before collapsing. How can THEY concievably rule the entire world under their iron fist when so many have failed before them trying the same thing?




They won't succeed. And the motivation is something you may not yet know.


More Information.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:54 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?





The answer you seek, is at the end of THIS VIDEO.


Jay - I am too busy to watch your endless youtube videos. The one i did watch - based entirely on a interview with a 'journalist' 'friend' of a rothschild - was laughably weak. And i really did try to watch with an open mind. A quick glance at the title of this one says the government caused the california bush fires to cover up something or other - I am really not interested. Only mildly concerned that now even forest fores are actually evidence of sinister forces at work.

So - could you answer my question? What is the point of controlling everything more than the rich & powerful already do?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:07 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?





The answer you seek, is at the end of THIS VIDEO.


Jay - I am too busy to watch your endless youtube videos. The one i did watch - based entirely on a interview with a 'journalist' 'friend' of a rothschild - was laughably weak. And i really did try to watch with an open mind. A quick glance at the title of this one says the government caused the california bush fires to cover up something or other - I am really not interested. Only mildly concerned that now even forest fores are actually evidence of sinister forces at work.

So - could you answer my question? What is the point of controlling everything more than the rich & powerful already do?



Well, maybe sometime, when you have time, you can watch the clip and then you'll know. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:39 am
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?





The answer you seek, is at the end of THIS VIDEO.


Jay - I am too busy to watch your endless youtube videos. The one i did watch - based entirely on a interview with a 'journalist' 'friend' of a rothschild - was laughably weak. And i really did try to watch with an open mind. A quick glance at the title of this one says the government caused the california bush fires to cover up something or other - I am really not interested. Only mildly concerned that now even forest fores are actually evidence of sinister forces at work.

So - could you answer my question? What is the point of controlling everything more than the rich & powerful already do?



Well, maybe sometime, when you have time, you can watch the clip and then you'll know. :wink:


You mean you don't know? Do you have an answer to the question yourself? I really don't have time to trawl through your links and it's a simple question...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:44 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Jay - one question:

What is their agenda? What are they going to do once they are totally in control?




Their agenda is just that. To control EVERYTHING. Oh, that and killing off 80% of the world's population.


Re: killing 80% of the population. Where did this figure come from?

And jay - what is the point in controlling everything? Have you thought that through? The richest and most powerful people can already do whetever they want - buy an island, pay no tax, eat diamonds for breakfast, buy lamborghinis in 10-packs. The Rothschilds for example - they live in the biggest houses in Europe, have all the money they could ever use, have butlers and servants, don't ever need to mix with the riff raff that make all their money for them - so what's the point?





The answer you seek, is at the end of THIS VIDEO.


Jay - I am too busy to watch your endless youtube videos. The one i did watch - based entirely on a interview with a 'journalist' 'friend' of a rothschild - was laughably weak. And i really did try to watch with an open mind. A quick glance at the title of this one says the government caused the california bush fires to cover up something or other - I am really not interested. Only mildly concerned that now even forest fores are actually evidence of sinister forces at work.

So - could you answer my question? What is the point of controlling everything more than the rich & powerful already do?



Well, maybe sometime, when you have time, you can watch the clip and then you'll know. :wink:


You mean you don't know? Do you have an answer to the question yourself? I really don't have time to trawl through your links and it's a simple question...




I know, otherwise why would I direct you to the end of a video? This whole thing has far reaching implications. So, as not to upset the balance, we must respect people for what they believe, even when we know they are wrong.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:24 am
by heavycola
Oh My God.

OK - against my better judgement, I watched the end of the movie.

Please correct me if I am wrong...

In this video, a man i have never heard of is claiming that:

a) the majority of US senators and congressmen are members of satanic cults
b) these cults are working with the vatican to establish a global roman catholic dictatorship
c) the California bush fires were started by these people to hide the passing of a law that will pave the way for the persecution of 'proper' christians'.


Do these claims, at any point, strike you as perhaps a little fanciful? Or do you believe all of this?

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 8:34 am
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:Oh My God.

OK - against my better judgement, I watched the end of the movie.

Please correct me if I am wrong...

In this video, a man i have never heard of is claiming that:

a) the majority of US senators and congressmen are members of satanic cults
b) these cults are working with the vatican to establish a global roman catholic dictatorship
c) the California bush fires were started by these people to hide the passing of a law that will pave the way for the persecution of 'proper' christians'.


Do these claims, at any point, strike you as perhaps a little fanciful? Or do you believe all of this?



You may want to check out the book of Revelation.... you might be surprised to find quite a few similarities to today's front page news.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:07 pm
by Curmudgeonx
Anyone else here reminded of the movie "So I married an Axe murderer"?

Specifically the Triumverate!!!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:21 pm
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Oh My God.

OK - against my better judgement, I watched the end of the movie.

Please correct me if I am wrong...

In this video, a man i have never heard of is claiming that:

a) the majority of US senators and congressmen are members of satanic cults
b) these cults are working with the vatican to establish a global roman catholic dictatorship
c) the California bush fires were started by these people to hide the passing of a law that will pave the way for the persecution of 'proper' christians'.


Do these claims, at any point, strike you as perhaps a little fanciful? Or do you believe all of this?



You may want to check out the book of Revelation.... you might be surprised to find quite a few similarities to today's front page news.


You didn't really answer my question - do you actually believe that the majority of senators and congressman are members of pro-vatican satanic cults? And that they started the fires in California so no one woudl notice their persecution of non-catholic christians?

And re: revelation-
the last video you posted - Zeitgeist i think it was called - spent a long time arguing that religion is a load of bullshit dreamt up and used by those who seek to control us all.

So which is it? Honestly, I am interested. You can't believe both!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 12:49 pm
by vtmarik
Curmudgeonx wrote:Anyone else here reminded of the movie "So I married an Axe murderer"?

Specifically the Triumverate!!!


"Aye, it's a well known fact Sonny Jim that there's a secret society in the world known as 'The Pentaverate,' who run everything in the world- including the newspapers- and meet tri-annually at a secret country mansion in Colorado known as The Meadows"
"So who's in this Pentaverate?"
"The Queen, The Vatican, The Getties, The Rothschilds, and Colonel Sanders before he went tits-up. Oh I hated the Colonel, with his wee beady eyes and that smug look on his face 'Oh, ya gonna buy my chicken, oh.' "
"Dad, how can you hate the Colonel."
"Because he puts an addictive chemical in his chicken that makes you crave it fortnightly, smart-ass!"

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:53 pm
by jay_a2j
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
heavycola wrote:Oh My God.

OK - against my better judgement, I watched the end of the movie.

Please correct me if I am wrong...

In this video, a man i have never heard of is claiming that:

a) the majority of US senators and congressmen are members of satanic cults
b) these cults are working with the vatican to establish a global roman catholic dictatorship
c) the California bush fires were started by these people to hide the passing of a law that will pave the way for the persecution of 'proper' christians'.


Do these claims, at any point, strike you as perhaps a little fanciful? Or do you believe all of this?



You may want to check out the book of Revelation.... you might be surprised to find quite a few similarities to today's front page news.


You didn't really answer my question - do you actually believe that the majority of senators and congressman are members of pro-vatican satanic cults? And that they started the fires in California so no one woudl notice their persecution of non-catholic christians?

And re: revelation-
the last video you posted - Zeitgeist i think it was called - spent a long time arguing that religion is a load of bullshit dreamt up and used by those who seek to control us all.

So which is it? Honestly, I am interested. You can't believe both!



I believe there are many members, on different levels....the higher up, the more they know. Some are being used, as pawns (and they are not even aware that they are being scared {via terror threat} into voting for laws that will be used to enslave them)

This is also a spiritual battle- these people are worshippers of Ra, the Sun God...AKA Satan....like I said, the higher up, the more they know. In the near future you will be forced to worship him or be put to death...but lets not get into that right now.

the last video you posted - Zeitgeist i think it was called - spent a long time arguing that religion is a load of bullshit dreamt up and used by those who seek to control us all.

So which is it?


I stated that I didn't agree with that part of the movie...(and only watched to part 5-of 31). Remember my statement on, "who would want to make it look as if Christianity were a rip off of another religion" - or something along those lines. We are seeing, what the Bible calls the last days begin to emerge. If nothing else, do not under any circumstances take a "chip" under the skin of your RIGHT hand or your FOREHEAD. If you do, you have made the worse choice you will ever make. This National ID Card is the first step...to be followed by the chip.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:55 pm
by comic boy
You just gotta laugh :lol:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 1:57 pm
by jay_a2j
comic boy wrote:You just gotta laugh :lol:



Yeah, if you're a fool you may find this funny. :roll:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:21 pm
by Balsiefen
jay_a2j wrote:
comic boy wrote:You just gotta laugh :lol:



Yeah, if you're a fool you may find this funny. :roll:


He's english. Anyway, we've got our gouvernment pushing for unlimited detainment for suspeted terrorists to worry about.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:25 pm
by Snorri1234
Balsiefen wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
comic boy wrote:You just gotta laugh :lol:



Yeah, if you're a fool you may find this funny. :roll:


He's english. Anyway, we've got our gouvernment pushing for unlimited detainment for suspeted terrorists to worry about.


It doesn't matter if he's English man! They're going to take over the whole word, you know? Most politicians in the UK are also worshipping Ra (a.k.a. Satan!!!!) and it won't be long before we're all ruled by dictorial overlords!!

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:36 pm
by mr. incrediball
has anybody wondered whether this whole "new world order" conspiracy theory might actually BE a conspiracy in itself?

it's just that most of the people who support this thing are hardcore christians. they are trying to destabilise the current american government and replace it-with what? an american taliban? a ban on all religions except american protestantism? maybe jay is in fact one of them trying to convert the sheeple into his annoyingly evangelist way of thinking...

I'M ONTO YOU JAY!

i might just start an anti-anti-new world order...

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:44 pm
by jay_a2j
Balsiefen wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
comic boy wrote:You just gotta laugh :lol:



Yeah, if you're a fool you may find this funny. :roll:


He's english. Anyway, we've got our gouvernment pushing for unlimited detainment for suspeted terrorists to worry about.



Because its all connected...The New World Order...a one world government.

We're in this together. :wink:

PostPosted: Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:50 pm
by mr. incrediball
also, while we're on the subject of crackpot conspiracies, i'm having some trouble understanding the pics on your site.

1: Image

i don't understand this at all.

1: what does Q33 have to do with anything?
2: first you claim they are satanist, and now they're jewish zionists? wtf?
3: so you think billy gates is in on this too? burn your xboxes and pcs people... and don't forget to stop using the internet!

2: Image

wtf? it looks like somebody just randomly doodled some satanic symbols on a map of washington DC, and that constitutes proof of a new world order...how?

3: Image

o.k, now what the f*ck is this supposed to mean?

o.k, that's about it for now.