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Ron Paul Nightmare

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:28 am
by DaGip
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/977016/ob ... nightmare/
Watch this video, I laughed my butt off...but, however, it is quite true!

If Ron Paul ain't in...I am voting for Obama. Just a natural choice...Hillary is in BIG trouble, especially after her lame "drug dealer" tarnishing attempt! Ron Paul or Obama 2008!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:40 am
by jay_a2j
Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:42 am
by Guiscard
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


I thought Ron Paul had no chance because of the whole NWO stuff? :?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:48 am
by heavycola
Guiscard wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


I thought Ron Paul had no chance because of the whole NWO stuff? :?


Well if he gets in, he's dead anyway.

And I see Jay is accusing someone of flip-flopping. Oh the irony.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:50 am
by unriggable
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


You are such a zealot it's sad. Obama is my top pick since he's so savvy. Ron Paul is just a clumsy tool.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:02 pm
by jay_a2j

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:05 pm
by Frigidus
YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:07 pm
by Catawbain
I don't like Ron Paul, It's probably because of my innate fear of people with two first names.

SOMETHINGS JUST NOT RIGHT IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRST NAMES.

:x

If you look at the current race and trace it back to who got American freedom first, Hillary willl lose and Obama will win :P

( Not to mention Oprah is helping him run, I hate her, a lot of people don't )

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:12 pm
by heavycola


Almost the funniest thing about these videos is the creepy music. Warnings about concentration camps and biblical prophecy are not enough, it seems.

Jay it is going to be time to get down in your bunker soon.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:13 pm
by DaGip
Catawbain wrote:I don't like Ron Paul, It's probably because of my innate fear of people with two first names.

SOMETHINGS JUST NOT RIGHT IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRST NAMES.

:x

If you look at the current race and trace it back to who got American freedom first, Hillary willl lose and Obama will win :P

( Not to mention Oprah is helping him run, I hate her, a lot of people don't )


Why do you hate Oprah? I don't really watch her show, but I do respect her. She is a real person and not fake. Just like Martha Stewart...what you see is what you get. But I think Oprah is nicer than Martha...plus, Oprah is not a convicted felon, hehe. :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:15 pm
by Catawbain
DaGip wrote:
Catawbain wrote:I don't like Ron Paul, It's probably because of my innate fear of people with two first names.

SOMETHINGS JUST NOT RIGHT IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRST NAMES.

:x

If you look at the current race and trace it back to who got American freedom first, Hillary willl lose and Obama will win :P

( Not to mention Oprah is helping him run, I hate her, a lot of people don't )


Why do you hate Oprah? I don't really watch her show, but I do respect her. She is a real person and not fake. Just like Martha Stewart...what you see is what you get. But I think Oprah is nicer than Martha...plus, Oprah is not a convicted felon, hehe. :lol:


Wow, you like Oprah and Martha Stewart as well? You need to get checked out or something, seems to me like some gears just aren't clicking right.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:16 pm
by unriggable
Jay you takl of Obama like he's a flip flopper, what about your 'the terrorists must be punished' stance now that 9-11 is a setup?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:20 pm
by DaGip
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


Jay, we need to use some realism here. I am still voting for Ron Paul, but it is quite evident that the Republican War-mongers won't let him in. That much is apparent, but I refuse to vote for anybody else in the Republican Party.

So, if the scenario plays out that Ron Paul is not in, then I got to change horses, right? I mean what else am I going to do? What I do is inform myself right now into Paulism, and keep that to my core, then I vote for Obama...I don't see any other choice for Ron Paul supporters.

I am not going to pick up my shotgun and head for DC...that is just moronic. We would be slaughtered in about ten seconds (give or take a few). Don't believe me? Go try it. Test the waters for the rest of us. LOL!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:21 pm
by jay_a2j
Frigidus wrote:YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.



Yeah, dismiss it because its a youtube video. Take the info. on the video and do your own research! Hello? No wonder this nation is asleep!


You know, just stay asleep. Don't research something that is as important as this, JUST dismiss it.

Better yet, find me the FACTS that counter the youtube video!


I'll be waiting in my bunker. :wink:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:25 pm
by jay_a2j
DaGip wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


Jay, we need to use some realism here. I am still voting for Ron Paul, but it is quite evident that the Republican War-mongers won't let him in. That much is apparent, but I refuse to vote for anybody else in the Republican Party.

So, if the scenario plays out that Ron Paul is not in, then I got to change horses, right? I mean what else am I going to do? What I do is inform myself right now into Paulism, and keep that to my core, then I vote for Obama...I don't see any other choice for Ron Paul supporters.

I am not going to pick up my shotgun and head for DC...that is just moronic. We would be slaughtered in about ten seconds (give or take a few). Don't believe me? Go try it. Test the waters for the rest of us. LOL!



LOL...I'll pass on "testing the waters". I say, RP doesn't get the Republican nomination, we have a 5 million man march in Washington! (Peaceful of course, no shotguns) To try and get RP to run as an independent.


The only person I will vote for is Ron Paul. PERIOD.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:44 pm
by unriggable
jay_a2j wrote:The only person I will vote for is Ron Paul. PERIOD.


Well then you'll feel like the majority of the American people 2000 and 2004 when their candidate didn't get elected.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 12:47 pm
by DaGip
jay_a2j wrote:
DaGip wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Don't let that video fool you. Obama is not speaking out against the national ID card. I believe he has flip-flopped on the war. He will become a puppet for the powers that be.


RON PAUL is the ONLY chance at staying a free people!


Jay, we need to use some realism here. I am still voting for Ron Paul, but it is quite evident that the Republican War-mongers won't let him in. That much is apparent, but I refuse to vote for anybody else in the Republican Party.

So, if the scenario plays out that Ron Paul is not in, then I got to change horses, right? I mean what else am I going to do? What I do is inform myself right now into Paulism, and keep that to my core, then I vote for Obama...I don't see any other choice for Ron Paul supporters.

I am not going to pick up my shotgun and head for DC...that is just moronic. We would be slaughtered in about ten seconds (give or take a few). Don't believe me? Go try it. Test the waters for the rest of us. LOL!



LOL...I'll pass on "testing the waters". I say, RP doesn't get the Republican nomination, we have a 5 million man march in Washington! (Peaceful of course, no shotguns) To try and get RP to run as an independent.


The only person I will vote for is Ron Paul. PERIOD.


Ron Paul already stated he wasn't running as a third party. I respect Ron Paul's decision and I will support him as much as I can. If he decides to run as a third party, I don't know how I will feel about that. That would mean that he is a hypocrit. He would have to have a real good reason for flipflopping on his decision, and Ron Paul is not well known for flipflopping.

I think Ron Paul believes that if he can't make it, then the best bet is to just get the Republican NeoCons out of power. Obama would be the natural choice...I will follow Ron Paul's endorsement if he fails to get the Republican nomination.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:18 pm
by comic boy
5 million people marching on Washington ...Yeh like Americans walk anywhere :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:22 pm
by Catawbain
comic boy wrote:5 million people marching on Washington ...Yeh like Americans walk anywhere :lol:


LOL, very true, I've noticed most people now do what I like to call "waddle"

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 1:59 pm
by heavycola
jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.



Yeah, dismiss it because its a youtube video. Take the info. on the video and do your own research! Hello? No wonder this nation is asleep!


You know, just stay asleep. Don't research something that is as important as this, JUST dismiss it.

Better yet, find me the FACTS that counter the youtube video!


Jay, we dismiss it because it's rubbish. The guy who does the voiceover in teh video - who is he> Why shoudl we trust him? Where are his facts? Where is his evidence?

Can you really not see where we are coming from? if I make a youtube video, in which i use some scary music, put on a deep, serious voice and say... 'the government has been covering up the aliens' existence for years', what would you think if i asked you to prove otherwise?

Every video you post is unsubstantiated. The kids that make these films say anything that comes into their heads. That last guy even mentioned the Skull and Bones Society, for chrissakes. And your 'research' is obvously just a load of these videos.
You need some discernment.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:44 pm
by DaGip
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.



Yeah, dismiss it because its a youtube video. Take the info. on the video and do your own research! Hello? No wonder this nation is asleep!


You know, just stay asleep. Don't research something that is as important as this, JUST dismiss it.

Better yet, find me the FACTS that counter the youtube video!


Jay, we dismiss it because it's rubbish. The guy who does the voiceover in teh video - who is he> Why shoudl we trust him? Where are his facts? Where is his evidence?

Can you really not see where we are coming from? if I make a youtube video, in which i use some scary music, put on a deep, serious voice and say... 'the government has been covering up the aliens' existence for years', what would you think if i asked you to prove otherwise?

Every video you post is unsubstantiated. The kids that make these films say anything that comes into their heads. That last guy even mentioned the Skull and Bones Society, for chrissakes. And your 'research' is obvously just a load of these videos.
You need some discernment.


Heavy, why don't you prove what your saying then? :roll:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:01 pm
by joecoolfrog
Conspiracy theories, supernatural supermen, miracles - Isnt life interesting enough without having to make all this weird stuff up :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:10 pm
by Snorri1234
DaGip wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.



Yeah, dismiss it because its a youtube video. Take the info. on the video and do your own research! Hello? No wonder this nation is asleep!


You know, just stay asleep. Don't research something that is as important as this, JUST dismiss it.

Better yet, find me the FACTS that counter the youtube video!


Jay, we dismiss it because it's rubbish. The guy who does the voiceover in teh video - who is he> Why shoudl we trust him? Where are his facts? Where is his evidence?

Can you really not see where we are coming from? if I make a youtube video, in which i use some scary music, put on a deep, serious voice and say... 'the government has been covering up the aliens' existence for years', what would you think if i asked you to prove otherwise?

Every video you post is unsubstantiated. The kids that make these films say anything that comes into their heads. That last guy even mentioned the Skull and Bones Society, for chrissakes. And your 'research' is obvously just a load of these videos.
You need some discernment.


Heavy, why don't you prove what your saying then? :roll:


He isn't saying anything that needs proof.


It's like asking someone to prove leprechauns don't exist.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:15 pm
by Frigidus
DaGip wrote:
heavycola wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Frigidus wrote:YouTube videos hardly constitute an argument.



Yeah, dismiss it because its a youtube video. Take the info. on the video and do your own research! Hello? No wonder this nation is asleep!


You know, just stay asleep. Don't research something that is as important as this, JUST dismiss it.

Better yet, find me the FACTS that counter the youtube video!


Jay, we dismiss it because it's rubbish. The guy who does the voiceover in teh video - who is he> Why shoudl we trust him? Where are his facts? Where is his evidence?

Can you really not see where we are coming from? if I make a youtube video, in which i use some scary music, put on a deep, serious voice and say... 'the government has been covering up the aliens' existence for years', what would you think if i asked you to prove otherwise?

Every video you post is unsubstantiated. The kids that make these films say anything that comes into their heads. That last guy even mentioned the Skull and Bones Society, for chrissakes. And your 'research' is obvously just a load of these videos.
You need some discernment.


Heavy, why don't you prove what your saying then? :roll:


Because rather than posting the arguments themselves, you post video clips. You haven't proved anything, you gave links. Postulate an argument an then we'll talk.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:25 pm
by static_ice
Catawbain wrote:
DaGip wrote:
Catawbain wrote:I don't like Ron Paul, It's probably because of my innate fear of people with two first names.

SOMETHINGS JUST NOT RIGHT IF YOU HAVE TWO FIRST NAMES.

:x

If you look at the current race and trace it back to who got American freedom first, Hillary willl lose and Obama will win :P

( Not to mention Oprah is helping him run, I hate her, a lot of people don't )


Why do you hate Oprah? I don't really watch her show, but I do respect her. She is a real person and not fake. Just like Martha Stewart...what you see is what you get. But I think Oprah is nicer than Martha...plus, Oprah is not a convicted felon, hehe. :lol:


Wow, you like Oprah and Martha Stewart as well? You need to get checked out or something, seems to me like some gears just aren't clicking right.


I'm not touching Martha with a 60 foot pole, but if you're male you don't have to hate Oprah just to be "right". I don't like her, I think her voice is annoying, and I think her "fans" are annoying, but she donates a large amount of money (not sure about the percentage in relation to how much she makes) to charity and that's all I ask of an overpayed celebrity to stay off my hate list.