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Do white men get a raw deal?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:43 am
by Norse
Question.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:47 am
by Guiscard
Image

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 10:56 am
by Norse
Hehe.

I love watching little men, who were once thought to be intelligent, resorting to images, to replace an otherwise mundane onslaught of sheer shite.

Bye bye SissyGuissy. :D

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:38 am
by legendkiller717
hell yah we are...so what if we are the cause of years of plauge, famine, apartheid, war and destruction...damn, it in the last 50 or so years, we been giving back...so back off our asses a lil, huh.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:48 am
by Syzygy
MOST DEFINITELY.

Here in good old South Africa, BEE and quota systems and other such crap screw white men and women over in so many ways. (The same goes for coloureds and Indians, although to a lesser degree.)

(I'm not interested in debating BEE and other crap, as far as I'm concerned it benefits the fat cats at the top only for the most and doesn't help those who actually need help the most.)

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:51 am
by Norse
legendkiller717 wrote:hell yah we are...so what if we are the cause of years of plauge, famine, apartheid, war and destruction...damn, it in the last 50 or so years, we been giving back...so back off our asses a lil, huh.


Yar.

We shuld like cuntinue to like fund poeple who are liek tryin to erm.....ya no....like give der poeple , erm, ya no like muny.

BLAX ARE DYING THEY ARE KILLED BY TEH WHITES!!!¬!!!!¬!¬¬¬¬¬¬

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:52 am
by dcowboys055
Syzygy wrote:MOST DEFINITELY.

Here in good old South Africa, BEE and quota systems and other such crap screw white men and women over in so many ways. (The same goes for coloureds and Indians, although to a lesser degree.)

(I'm not interested in debating BEE and other crap, as far as I'm concerned it benefits the fat cats at the top only for the most and doesn't help those who actually need help the most.)


Not sure what BEE is, but pretty sure until the 90's non-white people in South Africa were getting screwed way worse than whatever white men are now.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:53 am
by Norse
Syzygy wrote:MOST DEFINITELY.

Here in good old South Africa, BEE and quota systems and other such crap screw white men and women over in so many ways. (The same goes for coloureds and Indians, although to a lesser degree.)

(I'm not interested in debating BEE and other crap, as far as I'm concerned it benefits the fat cats at the top only for the most and doesn't help those who actually need help the most.)


Now, south africa is the best example of predjudice. A country that needs to adopt "blacks only" jobs within a hugely majority black country tells the outsider (like myself) alot about not only the country, but also a little about genetics.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:54 am
by Norse
dcowboys055 wrote:
Not sure what BEE is, but pretty sure until the 90's non-white people in South Africa were getting screwed way worse than whatever white men are now.


Yes, screwed by their parents by reproducing.

I kinda see now why all ethnic minority women are extremely attracted towhite men...all about evoloution my friend.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 11:58 am
by dcowboys055
Norse wrote:
dcowboys055 wrote:
Not sure what BEE is, but pretty sure until the 90's non-white people in South Africa were getting screwed way worse than whatever white men are now.


Yes, screwed by their parents by reproducing.

I kinda see now why all ethnic minority women are extremely attracted towhite men...all about evoloution my friend.


lol

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 12:01 pm
by Syzygy
dcowboys055 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:MOST DEFINITELY.

Here in good old South Africa, BEE and quota systems and other such crap screw white men and women over in so many ways. (The same goes for coloureds and Indians, although to a lesser degree.)

(I'm not interested in debating BEE and other crap, as far as I'm concerned it benefits the fat cats at the top only for the most and doesn't help those who actually need help the most.)


Not sure what BEE is, but pretty sure until the 90's non-white people in South Africa were getting screwed way worse than whatever white men are now.


And that justifies reverse-discrimination? :roll:

BEE = Black Economic Empowerment. A scheme that basically boils down to black people being immensely favoured for job XYZ or position XYZ or 3x times the wage a white/Indian/coloured man would earn doing the exact same job.

Only the rich black people benefit from it though, while those in the townships and squatter camps still generally remain in a shitty position.

Edit: Shocking typo needed fixing.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 1:29 pm
by DaGip
Whites are going to be wiped off the planet soon.

I, for one, am going to start looking for a Mexican wife...

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 2:51 pm
by legendkiller717
Norse wrote:
legendkiller717 wrote:hell yah we are...so what if we are the cause of years of plauge, famine, apartheid, war and destruction...damn, it in the last 50 or so years, we been giving back...so back off our asses a lil, huh.


Yar.

We shuld like cuntinue to like fund poeple who are liek tryin to erm.....ya no....like give der poeple , erm, ya no like muny.

BLAX ARE DYING THEY ARE KILLED BY TEH WHITES!!!¬!!!!¬!¬¬¬¬¬¬


not sure if you were mocking me, or reiterating my outlook that white people are being taken advantage of now that they have admitted they've done a few things the wrong way...

would you rather i hhave said i think Affirmative action is a joke in the US, that the media takes it too far, so far as demanding that there be affirmitive action in sports? that i thinkthe welfare system is a joke, and that if I, a single, white, working male were to look to the state of federal gov't for assistance, i would be laughed out of the building, but a minority with 3 kids and has to only work 20hrs a quarter gets cash, food stamps, housing, and transportation stipend?

i could have said all that, but i didnt, because it is a raw deal....i prefer to approach it cynically...considering now i am being punished for the actions of past whites, most of these things my ancestors did not participate in(no slavery, rich, nobility, warlords, military in my family) while i watch the minorities in my country get every oppertunity handed to them for struggles 95% of them never faced, but feel theey are entitled to because thir grandparents did...

slaves were freed, equality was assured for a while, through affimative action and welfare, and grants...now its time to relevel the playing field a little, and make everyones oppertunity the same, by removing all the equality laws...survival of the fittest....better than taking up the ass cuz of the sins of someone else's father....

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:13 pm
by DAZMCFC
Syzygy wrote:
dcowboys055 wrote:
Syzygy wrote:MOST DEFINITELY.

Here in good old South Africa, BEE and quota systems and other such crap screw white men and women over in so many ways. (The same goes for coloureds and Indians, although to a lesser degree.)

(I'm not interested in debating BEE and other crap, as far as I'm concerned it benefits the fat cats at the top only for the most and doesn't help those who actually need help the most.)


Not sure what BEE is, but pretty sure until the 90's non-white people in South Africa were getting screwed way worse than whatever white men are now.


And that justifies reverse-discrimination? :roll:

BEE = Black Economic Empowerment. A scheme that basically boils down to black people being immensely favoured for job XYZ or position XYZ or 3x times the wage a white/Indian/coloured man would earn doing the exact same job.

Only the rich black people benefit from it though, while those in the townships and squatter camps are still generally remain in a shitty position.


at least your not living in Zimbabwe. Robert Mugabe is a right looney.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:14 pm
by Norse
That'd be right.

Have you ever heard of a bank in Britain called "Lloyds Bank"?

They made a huge profit from the slave trade, as did many other prospering businesses, due to the investments that were made, and insurances offered to would-be slave horders.

Right, so what did my Grandads Grandads Grandads Grandads Grandad Make from the slave trade? I would hazard a guess that he made zilch from it.

SOooooo, Why, after listing these predjudicial laws, am I personally being punished?

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:15 pm
by ignotus
Simple question, simple answer: No!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:16 pm
by Norse
2 anser norse, i would say dat u r fukin cunt 4 bein liek, ya no, liek white, cos u opress teh blax...tehy R STARVIN!!"1!!1!!11!!111!

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:22 pm
by ignotus
Norse wrote:2 anser norse, i would say dat u r fukin cunt 4 bein liek, ya no, liek white, cos u opress teh blax...tehy R STARVIN!!"1!!1!!11!!111!


If you are trying to type with your pen*s please stop. Don't you see, your "sausage" is too short to do that. :roll: :wink: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:22 pm
by Norse
ignotus wrote:
Norse wrote:2 anser norse, i would say dat u r fukin cunt 4 bein liek, ya no, liek white, cos u opress teh blax...tehy R STARVIN!!"1!!1!!11!!111!


If you are trying to type with your pen*s please stop. Don't you see, your "sausage" is too short to do that. :roll: :wink: :lol:


Iggy, dear boy, please dont force me to rip your bowel out, via your mouth.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:28 pm
by Gregrios
The way I look at it is that if you arn't homeless and starving then you've got it pretty good. That goes for all races. The fact that people complain about bills not being paid, lovers doing them wrong, working conditions not being satisfactory, and etc. is completely ridiculos.

People, just take a minute out of your busy life and think about how good you have it and how bad it could be. This applies to everyone who reads this because if you have a computer then your probably not that bad off.

If two people of different races each have their own house and each have an income in the United States then their both doing pretty damn good in my book.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 3:29 pm
by ignotus
Norse wrote:
ignotus wrote:
Norse wrote:2 anser norse, i would say dat u r fukin cunt 4 bein liek, ya no, liek white, cos u opress teh blax...tehy R STARVIN!!"1!!1!!11!!111!


If you are trying to type with your pen*s please stop. Don't you see, your "sausage" is too short to do that. :roll: :wink: :lol:


Iggy, dear boy, please dont force me to rip your bowel out, via your mouth.

Your little "firecracker" is just tickling my lips. :wink: :lol:

PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2007 4:52 pm
by The Factory
In America I do believe straight white males get a bit of a raw deal in a few sectors.

First, affirmative action. It's crap, disallowing whites jobs they're well qualified for and giving them to minorities with less attention paid to actual qualification.
Best man for the job should be the law of the land, regardless of skin color.

Second, in society. Whites are supposed to feel guilty about being white but blacks and hispanics are supposed to feel empowered. It essentially boils down to "It's not our fault that we're minorities, but it's your fault that you're white." For example a black man can deride white people all he wants, but if a similar joke were used by a white man about black people, Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton would be at this man's doorstep and he'd be getting death threats at all hours of the night.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:36 am
by browng-08
Minor Threat wrote:Guilty of Being White

I'm sorry
For something I didn't do
Lynched somebody
But I don't know who
You blame me for slavery
A hundred years before I was born

Guilt of being white


I'm a convict
Of a racist crime
I've only served
19 years of my time


Guilty of being white


Unfortunately, some german white supremist adopted this as his theme song, but the message is still there: I'm not guilty for my father's actions.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:47 am
by muy_thaiguy
I have to agree here. Some of the Southern States are being pressured (and some have caved in) to apologizing for slavery when it ended 150 years ago. I think it is time to move on from those kind of things. Truth be told, I could care less what skin color, ethnicity, or religion people are, I base people off of who they are, not what. That is focusing on the individual, there. People should get jobs for their qualifications, not whatever makes them a minority or whatever. I also know a few people that would be "minority persons" but they are quite against affirmitive action, and they and their families have been quite successful, as have others.

PostPosted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:55 am
by jiminski
i went for a run earlier and have a bit of a raw heel! does that count?