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The definitive 'why 9/11 conspiracies are rubbish' thread

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:58 am
by heavycola
Partly because I miss Xtra's insanity, and also because I like arguing, and being right, I would like to answer any and all conspiracy theories regarding 9/11. One by one. They have been makign a stealthy reappearance in teh forum recently.
If anyone would like to start with a question or statement, please do. Otherwise I win by default.
JFK conspiracy theorists were unable to comprehend that a lone gunman's actions could have had such enormous repercussions, and therefore there MUST have been darker forces at work. Nevertheless, computer modelling of Dealey Plaza in the last few years has shown that it was indeed LHO who was solely responsible for the president's death. Individuals CAN, occasionally, be the snowflake that starts a massive avalanche.
Same here. Xtra used to describe the hijackers as 'kids with boxcutters' because he could not attribute the enormity of what happened that day and afterwards to a bunch of towelheads. However, that is what happened.

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:36 am
by suggs
Annoyingly, i completely agree with you mate, so we cant have a fruity argument.
Although i always thought the JFK stuff had a bit more plausibility than the 9/11 cobblers WHICH WE ALL SAW HAPPENING!
But you're right about XtraTomato-i miss his wackiness.

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:43 am
by heavycola

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 6:11 am
by suggs
Get it together Mr. Cola-you can get through this. Perhaps you need another non-Hasbro affiliated meeting?
Have to respect your sig though...


Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:15 am
by heavycola
suggs wrote:Get it together Mr. Cola-you can get through this. Perhaps you need another non-Hasbro affiliated meeting?
Have to respect your sig though...

Actually I have been in development talks over a new website:
http://www.coinflipclub.com. Basically members click a button to flip an electronic 'coin' against each other. We are going to have coins from all different countries and stuff, and a forum where people can cry about how rigged it all is.
I think it's going to be a winner. I know i'll be clicking that coin button like a lab rat with a crack-dispensing lever.
I also realise you have hijacked this thread, and possibly flown it into a building at the behest of dick cheney. It was probably for the best.
Re: The definitive 'why 9/11 conspiracies are rubbish' threa

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:31 am
by Snorri1234
heavycola wrote:Partly because I miss Xtra's insanity, and also because I like arguing, and being right, I would like to answer any and all conspiracy theories regarding 9/11. One by one. They have been makign a stealthy reappearance in teh forum recently.
If anyone would like to start with a question or statement, please do. Otherwise I win by default.
JFK conspiracy theorists were unable to comprehend that a lone gunman's actions could have had such enormous repercussions, and therefore there MUST have been darker forces at work. Nevertheless, computer modelling of Dealey Plaza in the last few years has shown that it was indeed LHO who was solely responsible for the president's death. Individuals CAN, occasionally, be the snowflake that starts a massive avalanche.
Same here. Xtra used to describe the hijackers as 'kids with boxcutters' because he could not attribute the enormity of what happened that day and afterwards to a bunch of towelheads. However, that is what happened.
Yeah, you'd much rather believe a bunch of kids with boxcutters got to the best security in the world than face the truth.
sheep.


Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 7:45 am
by Serbia
Well, I still think it's likely there was a larger conspiracy with the JFK murder, but not being born until '81, doesn't really affect me much. And besides, that scale (at least in the mind of a kid) doesn't match that of the 9/11 hysteria, which has much bigger consequences if you choose to believe your own government did it, or "kids with box cutters".
So I guess we can argue... oh and for good measure, I prefer my Cola light, and my liquor straight. So there.

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:11 pm
by luns101
Ok here goes...
Frigidus produced pictures that Hulk Hogan was the real culprit and mastermind behind the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks. I, for one, was convinced since he actually produced genuine photographic evidence.
What really happened on 9/11 thread
Now, I dare you sir....no, I
defy you to produce evidence to the contrary.

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:44 pm
by heavycola
luns101 wrote:Ok here goes...
Frigidus produced pictures that Hulk Hogan was the real culprit and mastermind behind the 9/11 World Trade Center attacks. I, for one, was convinced since he actually produced genuine photographic evidence.
What really happened on 9/11 threadNow, I dare you sir....no, I
defy you to produce evidence to the contrary.
The National Wrestling Organisation... of
course, it all make sense.
I bet Eddie Guerrero faked his own death too. Well, i'm sold. Ron Paul gets my vote.

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:55 pm
by Snorri1234

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:55 pm
by browng-08
Ha ha HAA!!! That was the last vote we needed! Now the reptilians are free to use Ron Paul to bake evil doomday cake of terror!

Posted:
Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:31 pm
by Bavarian Raven
funny thing is, i never doubted what happened on 911, just why it happened...


Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 12:38 am
by Jenos Ridan
All the US Presidents who have been assassinated have been taken out by lone gunmen, why is JFK any different?
Answer: an unhealthy attachment to the aforementioned deceised former Leader of the Free World.
People simply need to get over it: He obviously wasn't all that popular and one person clearly hated him so much that he wanted to kill him.
Re: The definitive 'why 9/11 conspiracies are rubbish' threa

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:41 am
by Norse
What was the "liquid magma" type fluid, seen clearly dripping from one of the towers, in the time between "the plane crash" and the "teh pancakz0r"
Why did the towers pancake at nearly the acceleration that the gravitational pull would have produced? Other than a fragmented, "clash-clash-clash" as the tower collapsed perfectly into a heap?
Why did trade centre 7 collapse?
How was the pentagon, considering the nature of the damage, and the lack of wreckage, damaged?
Which high-ranking political bilderberger member is paying you/sucking you off?
Who the f*ck is alice?
Re: The definitive 'why 9/11 conspiracies are rubbish' threa

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:53 pm
by vtmarik
Norse wrote:What was the "liquid magma" type fluid, seen clearly dripping from one of the towers, in the time between "the plane crash" and the "teh pancakz0r"
Melted Sherbet, brought for a party.
Why did the towers pancake at nearly the acceleration that the gravitational pull would have produced? Other than a fragmented, "clash-clash-clash" as the tower collapsed perfectly into a heap?
Ever watch a martial artist break a stack of bricks? (
Like this ) Ever notice how they all appear to break at about the same time (even though they don't, they break in series)? Kinda like that.
Why did trade centre 7 collapse?
Because Jesus wanted it to.
How was the pentagon, considering the nature of the damage, and the lack of wreckage, damaged?
By sheer force of will.
Which high-ranking political bilderberger member is paying you/sucking you off?
That would be Whitey.
Who the f*ck is alice?
She's the star of a serious Lifetime movie made into a sitcom.
One of these answers is not like the other one.

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 1:55 pm
by got tonkaed
the answer to the which one isnt like the others is that jesus wanted trade center 7 thing to collapse becuase that one is obvious truth where as the others are all clearly cases of infantile speculation.

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:59 pm
by static_ice
If Cola doesn't mind I'd like to ask some on topic questions... I was debating in another forum and I got a few snags.
1. In response to the basic logic that if the government was capable of getting a hold of the two planes for the WTC, they should have been able to get a hold of one for the Pentagon (instead of placing a bomb), my opponents claimed that it was a missile instead that was directed to the Pentagon. That's how they explain the smaller explosion and small hole (which they're too lazy to verify).
2. Actually that's all I remember off the top of my head.


Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:12 pm
by Snorri1234
static_ice wrote:1. In response to the basic logic that if the government was capable of getting a hold of the two planes for the WTC, they should have been able to get a hold of one for the Pentagon (instead of placing a bomb), my opponents claimed that it was a missile instead that was directed to the Pentagon. That's how they explain the smaller explosion and small hole (which they're too lazy to verify).
What I'm so curious about is that noone explains what happened to the plane that supposedly hit the pentagon. I mean, sure conspiracies are awesome, but why did they make a plane dissappear and then hit the pentagon with a missile?

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 8:13 pm
by unriggable
Snorri1234 wrote:static_ice wrote:1. In response to the basic logic that if the government was capable of getting a hold of the two planes for the WTC, they should have been able to get a hold of one for the Pentagon (instead of placing a bomb), my opponents claimed that it was a missile instead that was directed to the Pentagon. That's how they explain the smaller explosion and small hole (which they're too lazy to verify).
What I'm so curious about is that noone explains what happened to the plane that supposedly hit the pentagon. I mean, sure conspiracies are awesome, but why did they make a plane dissappear and then hit the pentagon with a missile?
BeCaUsE ItS A CoNsPiRaCy oOoOoO.

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:18 pm
by static_ice
I remembered that other question... something like if the whole plane crashed, why weren't there any holes or dents made from the wings and engines, in addition to the small circular hole (In the wall of the Pentagon)? This one's from an apparent expert on planes, who says that the engines and wings of a Boeing wouldn't "just break off or just explode".
P.S. I love this thread.


Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:32 pm
by muy_thaiguy
That^^^^is hilarious.


Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:35 pm
by unriggable
static_ice wrote:I remembered that other question... something like if the whole plane crashed, why weren't there any holes or dents made from the wings and engines, in addition to the small circular hole (In the wall of the Pentagon)? This one's from an apparent expert on planes, who says that the engines and wings of a Boeing wouldn't "just break off or just explode".
P.S. I love this thread.

Reminds me of when Bugs Bunny runs through an ice sheet, his sillhouette is preserved perfectly.

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:37 pm
by OnlyAmbrose
This thread's gonna be really boring until the conspiracy theorists show up...

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:47 pm
by unriggable
OnlyAmbrose wrote:This thread's gonna be really boring until the conspiracy theorists show up...
No promises.

Posted:
Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:42 pm
by static_ice
unriggable wrote:static_ice wrote:I remembered that other question... something like if the whole plane crashed, why weren't there any holes or dents made from the wings and engines, in addition to the small circular hole (In the wall of the Pentagon)? This one's from an apparent expert on planes, who says that the engines and wings of a Boeing wouldn't "just break off or just explode".
P.S. I love this thread.

Reminds me of when Bugs Bunny runs through an ice sheet, his sillhouette is preserved perfectly.
Good one.
