Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:49 pmwell....
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Are dots the new questions mark
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:49 pmRe: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:51 pmIs that your question. Do I think so. Do you. Will you think about that.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:51 pmNo...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:59 pmWTF...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:00 pmI'm appalled that you would ask?
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:20 pmWikipedia is your friend. Ellipses, sir...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:55 pmWikipedia is not your friend. Quoting is.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 11:05 pmDots mean that I'm thinking about it...
Does that answer your question?
Does that answer your question?
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 3:36 amno?...
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 4:18 amspam...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:06 amGood observation Jim.
Now I can see it, that's going to annoy the hell out of me for the next couple of weeks.
Now I can see it, that's going to annoy the hell out of me for the next couple of weeks.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 6:08 amjiminski wrote:well....
I think that they imply more of a rhetorical question?
C.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:49 ami think dots have just become a panacea for all punctuational confusion.... they now offer context to develop within the mind of the reader... instead of it being mapped out by the writer... They can serve as... colon...semicolon.. comma.. where needed.. and i think... a question mark... perhaps the only place they do not work is for exclamation...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 3:09 pmjiminski wrote:i think dots have just become a panacea for all punctuational confusion.... they now offer context to develop within the mind of the reader... instead of it being mapped out by the writer... They can serve as... colon...semicolon.. comma.. where needed.. and i think... a question mark... perhaps the only place they do not work is for exclamation...
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Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:06 pmMeh...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:18 pmTechnically, ellipses are supposed to imply that something has been left out. However, you are right that they are often used rather liberally, to express a range of things. On these forums, it is often difficult to convey tone -- strategically placed ellipses can help overcome that difficulty.
They can express uncertainty, or hesitation (I think...?)
They can even express a trailing-off kind of tone, occasionally...
I can't think of many other uses for them of which I as a Grammar Nazi would approve. For example, the question mark use is better conveyed with an additional question mark. That normally conveys a trailing off, but also with the raise in tone associated with a question.
They can express uncertainty, or hesitation (I think...?)
They can even express a trailing-off kind of tone, occasionally...
I can't think of many other uses for them of which I as a Grammar Nazi would approve. For example, the question mark use is better conveyed with an additional question mark. That normally conveys a trailing off, but also with the raise in tone associated with a question.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 4:20 pmInkL0sed wrote:Technically, ellipses are supposed to imply that something has been left out. However, you are right that they are often used rather liberally, to express a range of things. On these forums, it is often difficult to convey tone -- strategically placed ellipses can help overcome that difficulty.
They can express uncertainty, or hesitation (I think...?)
They can even express a trailing-off kind of tone, occasionally...
I can't think of many other uses for them of which I as a Grammar Nazi would approve. For example, the question mark use is better conveyed with an additional question mark. That normally conveys a trailing off, but also with the raise in tone associated with a question.
I agree with most of that. The one thing that I disagree with is your second question mark. I don't think it implies hesitation so much as a more aggressive attitude.
"What the hell??"
"What the hell..."
The first is perhaps surprised, or just overeager. The second is trailing off, perhaps resigned. My ellipses tend to be of the trailing off sort.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 5:58 pmNeoteny wrote:InkL0sed wrote:Technically, ellipses are supposed to imply that something has been left out. However, you are right that they are often used rather liberally, to express a range of things. On these forums, it is often difficult to convey tone -- strategically placed ellipses can help overcome that difficulty.
They can express uncertainty, or hesitation (I think...?)
They can even express a trailing-off kind of tone, occasionally...
I can't think of many other uses for them of which I as a Grammar Nazi would approve. For example, the question mark use is better conveyed with an additional question mark. That normally conveys a trailing off, but also with the raise in tone associated with a question.
I agree with most of that. The one thing that I disagree with is your second question mark. I don't think it implies hesitation so much as a more aggressive attitude.
"What the hell??"
"What the hell..."
The first is perhaps surprised, or just overeager. The second is trailing off, perhaps resigned. My ellipses tend to be of the trailing off sort.
Right -- I'm just saying that when used as a trailing-off kind of question, I prefer, and generally use, a question mark along with an ellipse.
So I would write "What the hell...?" to convey the same thing.
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:24 pmInkL0sed wrote:Neoteny wrote:InkL0sed wrote:Technically, ellipses are supposed to imply that something has been left out. However, you are right that they are often used rather liberally, to express a range of things. On these forums, it is often difficult to convey tone -- strategically placed ellipses can help overcome that difficulty.
They can express uncertainty, or hesitation (I think...?)
They can even express a trailing-off kind of tone, occasionally...
I can't think of many other uses for them of which I as a Grammar Nazi would approve. For example, the question mark use is better conveyed with an additional question mark. That normally conveys a trailing off, but also with the raise in tone associated with a question.
I agree with most of that. The one thing that I disagree with is your second question mark. I don't think it implies hesitation so much as a more aggressive attitude.
"What the hell??"
"What the hell..."
The first is perhaps surprised, or just overeager. The second is trailing off, perhaps resigned. My ellipses tend to be of the trailing off sort.
Right -- I'm just saying that when used as a trailing-off kind of question, I prefer, and generally use, a question mark along with an ellipse.
So I would write "What the hell...?" to convey the same thing.
agreed, i think dots only truly work if they are incorporated with some punctuation... but it implies thought... it gives some kind of allusion to the chronology of the writers thought process... and its 'punctuation' with the pause for inspiration!
As such it evokes a more personalised, chatting style of written communication which is truer to vocalisation.. a vocalisation which can not easily follow strict rules of literary grammar but which speak within the mind of the peruser.....
As to the tone/meaning of the dots... well they become what the words make them!
Or do they...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 6:40 pmHmm...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:06 pmjiminski wrote:i think dots have just become a panacea for all punctuational confusion.... they now offer context to develop within the mind of the reader... instead of it being mapped out by the writer... They can serve as... colon...semicolon.. comma.. where needed.. and i think... a question mark... perhaps the only place they do not work is for exclamation...
I use...three little dots...for longer than normal pauses...or areas in which the reader should pause...and...think...never...ever...ever...do...I...use...it...for...a...question...mark...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:01 pmI think the dots can mean that your repleying to an akward post.
Akward post: " My dog is eating me"
My post: " Yeah......"
Akward post: " My dog is eating me"
My post: " Yeah......"
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:03 pmwilliam18 wrote:I think the dots can mean that your repleying to an akward post.
Akward post: " My dog is eating me"
My post: " Yeah......"
Hey...you...are...using...six...little...dots...and...not...three...
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 8:04 pmDaGip wrote:william18 wrote:I think the dots can mean that your repleying to an akward post.
Akward post: " My dog is eating me"
My post: " Yeah......"
Hey...you...are...using...six...little...dots...and...not...three...
Hmm, I prefer only using five.
Re: Are dots the new questions mark
Posted: Wed Apr 30, 2008 5:42 amwilliam18 wrote:DaGip wrote:william18 wrote:I think the dots can mean that your repleying to an akward post.
Akward post: " My dog is eating me"
My post: " Yeah......"
Hey...you...are...using...six...little...dots...and...not...three...
Hmm, I prefer only using five.
It's a good point; the number of dots also imply nuance.............. and can even convey sarcasm. or irony.....