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HapSmo19 wrote:PHILADELPHIA/NEW YORK (Reuters) - U.S. brewer Anheuser-Busch Cos Inc (NYSE:BUD - News) agreed to a $50 billion takeover by Belgium-based InBev NV (Brussels:INTB.BR - News), a source familiar with the situation said on Sunday, creating the world’s largest beer maker.InBev, the maker of Stella Artois, and Budweiser-brewer Anheuser were not immediately available to comment.
The combined company will be called Anheuser-Busch InBev, said the sources, who agreed to speak on condition of anonymity. Anheuser will get seats on the new company’s board, the sources said, but it was not immediately clear how many.

Adding another dimension to any deal was Mexico’s No. 1 brewer Grupo Modelo (Mexico:GMODELOC.MX - News), which is 50 percent owned by Anheuser. The maker of Corona beer, which has the right to choose its partner, has not yet approved InBev for that role and the two brewers remain in talks, according to one person familiar with the situation.

Modelo declined to comment.

This is some of that "change you can belive in", ahead of time. When American icons start going away, it's pretty obvious that things are going bad. Very bad.
Keep drinking that kool-aid, freaks. I'm sure it gives you, the brain dead, a warm and fuzzy feeling inside knowing you'll be standing in a communist bread line in two years but hey,....they'll take care of you. Count on it.

Backglass wrote:Perhaps if they Busch family hadn't frittered away the family business over the last few generations, they would still have enough of an interest to hold on to it.

MeDeFe wrote:The real Budweiser is from Chechya, "American icon" my ass.

HapSmo19 wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:The real Budweiser is from Chechya, "American icon" my ass.

A quick google search for "Chechnya Budweiser" bring up lots of bombing, torture and rebel links but nothing about Chechen Budwieser. Maybe someday, someone other than you will actually hear about "the real one".

MeDeFe wrote:The real Budweiser is from Chechya, "American icon" my ass.

Iz Man wrote:Budweiser Budvar
Origin: Czech Republic
Style: Golden Lager
Alcohol: 5.0% ABV

In the Czech Republic, only beers from Pilsen (Plzen) may use the name of that city. While they emphasize the hop, their similar, more southerly rivals from the brewing city of Budweis (also known as České Budějovice) lean towards a light, smooth maltiness. The city, on the Moldau River, began with a monastery and in the 1200's grew as a southern stronghold of the kingdom of Bohemia. Before trademarks, any brew made there would have been described as a "Budweiser" beer. Budweiser Burgerbrau, established in 1795, made the city's first lager in 1853. That brewery still operates. Budweiser Budvar came later, in 1895. By then, the German-American brewer Adolphus Busch was already making a "Budweiser" beer. Several other U.S. brewers have in the past used the term Budweiser to describe their beers, but Busch's exclusive U.S. rights to the name were eventually established beyond doubt. The Czech Budweiser beers are more assertive in flavor than their American counterparts.

Iz Man wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:Wikipedia is your friend. Only 80 years older than that rip-off that was bought out.

Here's how it goes: (looks like more people need to read the World Beer Review threads )

Iz Man wrote:Budweiser Budvar
Origin: Czech Republic
Style: Golden Lager
Alcohol: 5.0% ABV

In the Czech Republic, only beers from Pilsen (Plzen) may use the name of that city. While they emphasize the hop, their similar, more southerly rivals from the brewing city of Budweis (also known as České Budějovice) lean towards a light, smooth maltiness. The city, on the Moldau River, began with a monastery and in the 1200's grew as a southern stronghold of the kingdom of Bohemia. Before trademarks, any brew made there would have been described as a "Budweiser" beer. Budweiser Burgerbrau, established in 1795, made the city's first lager in 1853. That brewery still operates. Budweiser Budvar came later, in 1895. By then, the German-American brewer Adolphus Busch was already making a "Budweiser" beer. Several other U.S. brewers have in the past used the term Budweiser to describe their beers, but Busch's exclusive U.S. rights to the name were eventually established beyond doubt. The Czech Budweiser beers are more assertive in flavor than their American counterparts.

Basically, any beer brewed in the Budweis region was called a Budweiser.
Eberhard Anheuser brewed a beer he called Budweiser in 1876.
Budweiser Budvar was released in 1895, 19 years later. Which is why he won the trademark dispute that followed once the two beers started showing up in the same regions of Europe.

Like Budweiser or hate it, one must respect what AB has done with its beers produced.
Budweiser comprises 1/10th of the world market. Think about it, 1 out of every 10 beers drank worldwide is a Bud. To brew beer on such a massive scale and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery, is astonishing. Especially when you consider yeast is a living thing. Being able to control this single cell creature to where it is producing the same by-product consistently no matter where its being brewed is amazing.

I agree with Backglass that the Busch's have let their control over the enterprise slip away, so they can blame themselves; but I can guarantee the recipe is not going to change.

Not really sure how the buyout will lead to "communist bread lines", as this is quite a capitalistic venture.

and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery

2dimes wrote:Whoa IZ, I love you but easy now. You're right on most of it except.

and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery

Budwieser brewed by Labbat is quite different from it's american counterpart. The Labbat stuff was what I used to drink before I discovered beer could be consummed for flavour as opposed to effect first time I had an american Bud it was quite a suprise.

Gip most beer in green bottles will go skunky fairly quickly and must be drank as fresh as possible.

2dimes wrote:Whoa IZ, I love you but easy now. You're right on most of it except.

and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery

Budwieser brewed by Labbat is quite different from it's american counterpart. The Labbat stuff was what I used to drink before I discovered beer could be consummed for flavour as opposed to effect first time I had an american Bud it was quite a suprise.

Gip most beer in green bottles will go skunky fairly quickly and must be drank as fresh as possible.

DaGip wrote:

2dimes wrote:Whoa IZ, I love you but easy now. You're right on most of it except.

and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery

Budwieser brewed by Labbat is quite different from it's american counterpart. The Labbat stuff was what I used to drink before I discovered beer could be consummed for flavour as opposed to effect first time I had an american Bud it was quite a suprise.

Gip most beer in green bottles will go skunky fairly quickly and must be drank as fresh as possible.

Yeah, it was brought back to the states by a buddy of mine in the Army. He came back home on leave from Germany, and he brought that particular Budweiser back with him. I reckon it sat around and sat around, and then he left it on the floorboard of his car...in the summertime. I was drunk in the back seat, and it rolled from under the seat. I asked him what it was, and he told me it was a REAL Budweiser from Czech. He told me I could drink it. He said it was supposed to be drunk warm. So I cracked it open and gulp gulp gurgle gurgle...ooomphf! RAAALPH!!! I immediately hurled all over his back seat. That beer was the most horrible experiences in beer drinking I have ever, or since, been introduced to. This story should be in the Puke thread.

Iz Man wrote:Any time a beer is exposed to a lengthy travel in less than ideal conditions, the flavor will suffer. Heineken is a prime example. Marketed in green bottles for U.S. consumption, the Heinekens here taste like skunk. Completely different than what they taste like in the Netherlands.

polarbeast23 wrote:who is Budweiser?

Oh yes, that American disgrace of a pisswater beer. I understand that they were bought out by a Belgian company, They know ow to make beer, I think. Maybe they can improve on the shit that Anheiser-Busch put out.

Iz Man wrote:Like Budweiser or hate it, one must respect what AB has done with its beers produced.
Budweiser comprises 1/10th of the world market. Think about it, 1 out of every 10 beers drank worldwide is a Bud. To brew beer on such a massive scale and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery, is astonishing. Especially when you consider yeast is a living thing. Being able to control this single cell creature to where it is producing the same by-product consistently no matter where its being brewed is amazing.

Iz Man wrote:

Iz Man wrote:Like Budweiser or hate it, one must respect what AB has done with its beers produced.
Budweiser comprises 1/10th of the world market. Think about it, 1 out of every 10 beers drank worldwide is a Bud. To brew beer on such a massive scale and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery, is astonishing. Especially when you consider yeast is a living thing. Being able to control this single cell creature to where it is producing the same by-product consistently no matter where its being brewed is amazing.

polarbeast23 wrote:

Iz Man wrote:

Iz Man wrote:Like Budweiser or hate it, one must respect what AB has done with its beers produced.
Budweiser comprises 1/10th of the world market. Think about it, 1 out of every 10 beers drank worldwide is a Bud. To brew beer on such a massive scale and maintain consistency worldwide, no matter what brewery, is astonishing. Especially when you consider yeast is a living thing. Being able to control this single cell creature to where it is producing the same by-product consistently no matter where its being brewed is amazing.

sure... having a successful business model is grounds for applause </sarcasm>

It may be that Budweiser, like Microsoft, cut its niche marked out by using bullish tactics to promote their crappy product to stupid and witless masses. Fill the shelves with shit and price it below your competitors... and you are bound to become a success.

Iz Man wrote:I don't think you're getting what I'm saying.
I'm not praising what AB has done from a marketing standpoint, although one can't deny it has been one of the most successful in history. Do you even know how AB "cut its niche", as you say? It has nothing to do with superbowl commercials.
AB was the first to be able to bring their product across the country via refrigerated rail cars. Prior to this, breweries were local, very local. AB changed all that.

I'm just praising AB's achievements in brewing. I personally don't care for their beers, but I will give them kudos for what they've accomplished.

Oh....... and its definitely not the cheapest beer out there...

polarbeast23 wrote:Okay, thats fair, but to that I would say big deal. refrigerated cars aside, the global mass production of a product almost always degrades quality. Good for them for making crap and distributing it to the masses.

Iz Man wrote:

polarbeast23 wrote:Okay, thats fair, but to that I would say big deal. refrigerated cars aside, the global mass production of a product almost always degrades quality. Good for them for making crap and distributing it to the masses.

Quality is a relative term. When 1 out of every 10 beers drank worldwide is a Bud, they're doing something right in quality, even if my (or your) palate doesn't think so.
Its a question of consistency; and because we're talking about beer, even more so.
Brewing beer on such a massive scale cannot be compared to producing mass quantities of widgets by barefoot Chinese kids.
That's what makes what AB has done a great technological achievement.
I can't make two 5 or 10 gallon batches come out exactly the same, there's always a difference, even if subtle.
AB (and the other big guns) produce a consistent product on the scale of 10's of millions of barrels.