Conquer Club

More accountability and oversight in the oil markets could drop the price of a barrel of oil to $65 or $70 a barrel within about 30 days -- a huge reduction that would likely mean lower gas prices for you and me, without sacrificing America's coasts and wild places to more dirty drilling!

The House of Representatives is poised to take a stand against the wealthy speculators who are driving up prices at the pump.

But Big Oil keeps pushing for a drilling scheme that will do nothing to help consumers but will risk our shores and the dolphins, sea turtles and other wildlife that depend on them.

We can help address high gas prices and stop harmful new drilling on our coasts. I just contacted my Representative -- and you can, too.

Just go to this website:
http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

Offshore drilling would come at a terrible cost to our wildlife and the environment. Offshore drilling can wreak havoc on our coasts: Each platform produces toxic discharges that can poison and kill marine wildlife and dumps tons of unregulated air pollutants into our atmosphere. And just one spill can devastate an entire ecosystem.

Please join me in calling on Congress to address speculation in the oil markets and reject calls for harmful new drilling that would threaten America's coasts and the wildlife that live there.

Find out more and send a message now at:

http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

We shouldn't have to sacrifice America's natural treasures for the sake of profits for the oil companies and these speculative investors!

Thanks for helping!

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strike wolf wrote:The link didn't work for me.

They both work fine for me.

McCain flip-flops on offshore drilling moratorium.

Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered “a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies” by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain’s move a break with environmental activist, but it is also “a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.” The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

During his last run for the presidency, in 1999, McCain supported the drilling moratorium, and he scolded the “special interests in Washington” that sought offshore drilling leases. Yesterday, he announced that those very same “moratoria should be lifted” and proposed incentives for the states “in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.”

In 2000, McCain promised to “never lose sight” of fundamental principles on the issue.


Such integrity! Such backbone! What a hero!

Backglass wrote:McCain flip-flops on offshore drilling moratorium.

Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered “a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies” by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain’s move a break with environmental activist, but it is also “a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.” The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

During his last run for the presidency, in 1999, McCain supported the drilling moratorium, and he scolded the “special interests in Washington” that sought offshore drilling leases. Yesterday, he announced that those very same “moratoria should be lifted” and proposed incentives for the states “in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.”

In 2000, McCain promised to “never lose sight” of fundamental principles on the issue.


Such integrity! Such backbone! What a hero!

One more reason to NEVER vote for that sonofabitch!

This seems like a no-brainer. I don't understand why people are in favor of ending the ban. People are so gullible.

Juan_Bottom wrote:This seems like a no-brainer. I don't understand why people are in favor of ending the ban. People are so gullible.

You would think so, but greedy politicians who are already in their fifties and above don't have to worry about how the world will be in twenty years, so they make laws and run businesses in such a way to give them the most money now with no worries of repercussions.

Backglass wrote:McCain flip-flops on offshore drilling moratorium.

Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered “a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies” by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain’s move a break with environmental activist, but it is also “a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.” The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

During his last run for the presidency, in 1999, McCain supported the drilling moratorium, and he scolded the “special interests in Washington” that sought offshore drilling leases. Yesterday, he announced that those very same “moratoria should be lifted” and proposed incentives for the states “in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.”

In 2000, McCain promised to “never lose sight” of fundamental principles on the issue.


Such integrity! Such backbone! What a hero!

... What did gas cost in 1999?

...

Nobunaga wrote:... What did gas cost in 1999?

I guess he forgot to add "Unless of course the price of gas goes up and then those "fundamental principles" I spoke of won't mean jack shit."

Nice! I can't wait for the next flip-flop. Bets on what it will be?

Backglass wrote:

Nobunaga wrote:... What did gas cost in 1999?

I guess he forgot to add "Unless of course the price of gas goes up and then those "fundamental principles" I spoke of won't mean jack shit."

Nice! I can't wait for the next flip-flop. Bets on what it will be?

There's something he hasn't flip-flopped on?

Anarkistsdream wrote:

Backglass wrote:McCain flip-flops on offshore drilling moratorium.

Yesterday, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) offered “a bit of a capitulation to the oil companies” by announcing that he would end the federal ban on offshore oil drilling. Not only is McCain’s move a break with environmental activist, but it is also “a reversal of the position he took in his 2000 presidential campaign.” The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

During his last run for the presidency, in 1999, McCain supported the drilling moratorium, and he scolded the “special interests in Washington” that sought offshore drilling leases. Yesterday, he announced that those very same “moratoria should be lifted” and proposed incentives for the states “in the form of tangible financial rewards, if the states decide to lift those moratoriums.”

In 2000, McCain promised to “never lose sight” of fundamental principles on the issue.


Such integrity! Such backbone! What a hero!

One more reason to NEVER vote for that sonofabitch!

yeah let's put Obama in the white house and see what we think about war*(oops*) on our soil sounds fun lets try it I will try just about anything once

apey wrote:yeah let's put Obama in the white house and see what we think about was on our soil sounds fun lets try it I will try just about anything once

Sorry? Can you try speaking English please?

Here...,..,,./,!?!,.,.!

Just throw those in anywhere.

Apey, sorry, but if you can't see how the GOP machine led by McCain would f*ck us all, then you must be blind.

It is obvious that, as a war-time president, McCain would do better. But the point is to NO LONGER be at war. Not to think it is going to continue.

The Republicans have done enough damage to our economy since the end of the Clinton administration.

At the end of the Clinton administration, we had almost three trillion dollars in surplus funds. The economy was rising and times were good.

Now, we are so far in debt we will never get out of it, and the only reason people still trade with us is because they now realize we go to war with people over bullshit claims that are unsubstantiated.

Look back up at the chart above and figure out when there was a Republican in office and when there was a Democrat... See a trend? Gas was lower when Republicans were not running the government.

Also, Obama is actually worried about our environment. He is actually trying to right the wrongs we have let overtake us, not just sit idly by making money while the poor man gets poorer, which is EXACTLY what McCain is promoting.

Show me how McCain would solve these problems. Show me where he hasn't backtracked on his word... You can't.

Backglass wrote:The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

That about says it all right there. Dana Milbank, please!! Next you'll be quoting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman.

silvanricky wrote:

Backglass wrote:The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

That about says it all right there. Dana Milbank, please!! Next you'll be quoting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman.

Firstly, don't derail my topic...

Second, just because you don't like what a journalist writes doesn't mean it isn't true.

In Alaska where I live it's always a huge political battle to drill in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge. It would give the country a month of oil at most, and then ruin the wildlife refuge forever. A lot of times the proponents of drilling have Eskimos on their side to help their argument, because most people are too ignorant to know that ANWR is in Athabaskan land, and if it was in Eskimo land, the Eskimos would be opposed. They try a bunch of tricks like that.

silvanricky wrote:That about says it all right there. Dana Milbank, please!! Next you'll be quoting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman.

Ahhh...OK. I see you don't like the message, so you shoot the messenger.

Lets just quote John McCain directly then...shall we?

On Roe Vs Wade
“in the short term, or even the long term, I would not support repeal of Roe v. Wade.” - John McCain
"it’s very likely or possible that the Supreme Court should — could overturn Roe v. Wade, which would then return these decisions to the states, which I support." - John McCain



On Estate Taxes
“I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us at the expense of middle-class Americans who need tax relief.” - John McCain

Now he is FOR the tax cuts and says “American businesses and investors need a stable and predictable tax policy to continue contributing to the growth of the economy.” - John McCain



On the Confederate Flag
"Personally, I see the flag as a symbol of heritage." - John McCain
""the Confederate flag should be taken down," - John McCain


...and the list goes on and on. He changes his mind almost daily. Grandpa is having a LOT on senior moments these days...

Anarkistsdream wrote:

silvanricky wrote:

Backglass wrote:The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

That about says it all right there. Dana Milbank, please!! Next you'll be quoting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman.

Firstly, don't derail my topic...

Second, just because you don't like what a journalist writes doesn't mean it isn't true.

First, it's not your topic. When you put it out there for everyone to view it's open to discussion, analysis, and criticism.

Second, just because you like what a journalist writes doesn't mean it's true.

Backglass wrote:...and the list goes on and on. He changes his mind almost daily. Grandpa is having a LOT on senior moments these days...

You could make the same case against Barack Obama. He's changed his mind on Iraq and how he'll handle it if he becomes president. But we'll just look the other way on that, won't we I notice that those quotes you gave are not almost daily. He has changed his mind and so has every other politician who has ever existed. Way to be selective in the way you interpret the news.

As far as senior moments go -

Obama has declared that there's 57 states as opposed to the reality that there's only 50

He's claimed to have seen some of the fallen war heroes in the audience during a Memorial Day speech this year (probably because he has no clue why we even celebrate Memorial Day in the first place)



Oh I forgot! Obama isn't a senior citizen so he can't fall back on that excuse. Guess we'll just have to identify him as a moron. He's free to take a basic course in geography.

silvanricky wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote:

silvanricky wrote:

Backglass wrote:The Washington Post’s Dana Milbank writes:

That about says it all right there. Dana Milbank, please!! Next you'll be quoting Jon Stewart and Keith Olberman.

Firstly, don't derail my topic...

Second, just because you don't like what a journalist writes doesn't mean it isn't true.

First, it's not your topic. When you put it out there for everyone to view it's open to discussion, analysis, and criticism.

Second, just because you like what a journalist writes doesn't mean it's true.

Really? Ask the mods, fucknut.

Anarkistsdream wrote: http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

Know that online petitions are not legal petitions and, because they are so easy to mas produce, are often dismissed. If you are concerned, it is far better to drop a postcard, call or even write a real letter.

PLAYER57832 wrote:

Anarkistsdream wrote: http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

http://action.defenders.org/stopdirtyamendments

Know that online petitions are not legal petitions and, because they are so easy to mas produce, are often dismissed. If you are concerned, it is far better to drop a postcard, call or even write a real letter.

I already have!

This was for people who are too lazy to do it.

I belong to Amnesty International, Defenders of Wildlife, Greenpeace, and another few local chapters of environmental advocacy, as well as animal advocacy... I just drop the canned statements from websites on here to raise attention and awareness.

Ummm we never had 3 TRILLION in surplus funds. That is the stupidest thing I have ever heard. We still had a national debt under Clinton, but there was a surplus in the budget. But who was the cause of a surplus??

1) The president, who makes no laws
2) the congress, led by republicans, who just try ot stay elected
3) the public, who paid record amount of taxes becasue of policies of the administration AND the speculative nature of the NASDAQ/market at the time

Now to be on topic.......drilling woudl be ok with me. There are very few oil spills especially by DEVELOPED countries with advanced techs. Let Cuba drill off of FL, and I can guarrantee a spill. POlitics is all shit, I would love to see more wind and solar powering homes. But to blame specualtors or exxon fo rthe price of oil is ludicrous. If you want cheap oil, pressure your congressman to take it form Iraq. Don't pay them. They LOST!!! That is how the owrld used to work. Why have a military if you aren't going to benefit from it?

Kill em all, and welcome to the 51st state: Oilsylvania

All the American government has been doing is steal from the poor (which, if you think about it, is quite idiotic since the poor doesn't have much to steal from) and give to the rich...