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Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:56 pm
by Jenos Ridan
If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:58 pm
by MeDeFe
Do you have any idea how much that would hurt tourism? People would starve, there would be riots.

Re: Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:05 pm
by Jenos Ridan
MeDeFe wrote:Do you have any idea how much that would hurt tourism? People would starve, there would be riots.


If Private Gun Ownership is such a vile throwback to a barbaric age, then Kings and hereditary aristocrats are even more so. Plus, the revenues from scuttling these pampered, prisy twits is sufficent to warrent the risk, the sale of the tracts of land alone should be worth it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:50 pm
by HapSmo19
JR, is that Jewel or Mustaine in your avatar?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:30 pm
by mandalorian2298
Jenos Ridan wrote:If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.


Yeah, guns and monarchies are basically the same thing. I'm sure that you would no more mind being shot then I would living under a monarchy. :roll:

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:46 pm
by Jenos Ridan
HapSmo19 wrote:JR, is that Jewel or Mustaine in your avatar?


Mustaine.

Why do you ask?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 10:49 pm
by Jenos Ridan
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.


Yeah, guns and monarchies are basically the same thing. I'm sure that you would no more mind being shot then I would living under a monarchy. :roll:

Next topic: Should delusional patients be allowed net access?


Read the bolded part, should help you figure out my intent.

By way of Heavycola's reasoning, anything can be made to seem a barbarity.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:05 pm
by mandalorian2298
Jenos Ridan wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.


Yeah, guns and monarchies are basically the same thing. I'm sure that you would no more mind being shot then I would living under a monarchy. :roll:

Next topic: Should delusional patients be allowed net access?


Read the bolded part, should help you figure out my intent.

By way of Heavycola's reasoning, anything can be made to seem a barbarity.


I think that he is less concerned with the fact that owning guns isn't hip anymore and more with the fact that allowing every moron to own a gun for no other reason but because he really, REALLY wants to own a gun, significantly increases mortality rate. Unless you have a reason to believe that people in GB or Norway are getting killed by their form of government. :roll:

Re: Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:10 pm
by MeDeFe
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:
mandalorian2298 wrote:
Jenos Ridan wrote:If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.


Yeah, guns and monarchies are basically the same thing. I'm sure that you would no more mind being shot then I would living under a monarchy. :roll:

Next topic: Should delusional patients be allowed net access?


Read the bolded part, should help you figure out my intent.

By way of Heavycola's reasoning, anything can be made to seem a barbarity.


I think that he is less concerned with the fact that owning guns isn't hip anymore and more with the fact that allowing every moron to own a gun for no other reason but because he really, REALLY wants to own a gun, significantly increases mortality rate. Unless you have a reason to believe that people in GB or Norway are getting killed by their form of government. :roll:

parliamentary democracy?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:34 pm
by jonesthecurl
Jenos Ridan wrote:If the UK, Japan, Sweden and all other "first world" nations that have monarcies, abolish the crown and their hereditary aristocracies (no more kings, dukes, barons, knighted people, etc.). Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged. This means, specifically for Britain; the forced abdictation of the Royals, abolishment of the House of Lords (in favor of a legislative house that fills the same role, if it is needed. If not, Britain can get along fine without it), the formal change of name from the United Kingdom to simply Great Britain and the removal of the term "royal" from such things as the British Royal Marines and the Royal Bank of Scotland Group. Similar actions are expected from other monarchial states. It is only under these conditions that the US will enact gun polices identical to those practiced in the nation of Switzerland.


I for one would be happy with that arrangement.
Bloody Royals. The head of state is the head of the State (Christian) Church, but they can all document their descent officially from Thor.
Bloody nonsense.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 1:20 am
by protectedbygold
I'll up the stakes - We will get rid of Miley Cyrus if Britain stops Hugh Grant from making any more movies. Everyone wins

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 2:03 am
by Juan_Bottom
:lol:
Nice thread.

BTW JENOS, how come your rank has been a ? for like... months?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 4:56 am
by Dancing Mustard
A Fool wrote:Since, according to your vaulted exhortations, gun ownership is a barbaric anachronism, it is disgustingly hypocritical that you would allow the Crown to go unchalledged.

I don't think the 'barbaric anachronism' thing is the main thrust of the argument that people like HC (and myself) make against private gun-ownership.

Isn't our argument based more on the fact that the more people you give guns the more likely one of them is to go on a firearm assissted killing spree with one? Isn't our argument more about pointing out the absurdities of the "Ah needs mah gun faw pro-tech-tin mah familah... aginst guns. Its tha only way" school of thought? Isn't it usually based on pointing out that there's no compelling and logical reasons for owning guns at all, and that therefore the huge risks associated with their proliferation ought to dictate some form of severe restrictions upon their availability?

I mean sure, set up some flimsy straw-man argument that you wish we were using... feel free to set it on fire and burn it down. Rant and rail against harmless figurehead sovereigns with no constitutional influence, and howl blue murder about institutions whose function you don't seem to properly comprehend.

But please... don't imagine that by going through such a ridiculous charede, you're somehow proving anything, or engaging with any genuine issue or argument. Because really, this thread is just shadowboxing... and all your 'down with the Queen' bellowing is a completely falacious sideshow of an argument.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:14 am
by jonesthecurl
protectedbygold wrote:I'll up the stakes - We will get rid of Miley Cyrus if Britain stops Hugh Grant from making any more movies. Everyone wins



A cultural potlach!

I'll burn everything Benny Hill ever did, if you'll do the same with Eddie Murphy (except Donkey)

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:30 am
by pimpdave
jonesthecurl wrote:
protectedbygold wrote:I'll up the stakes - We will get rid of Miley Cyrus if Britain stops Hugh Grant from making any more movies. Everyone wins



A cultural potlach!

I'll burn everything Benny Hill ever did, if you'll do the same with Eddie Murphy (except Donkey)


Yo yo. What about Axel Foley? He was good. And so was all of the SNL stuff.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:59 am
by jiminski
Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:06 am
by Snorri1234
pimpdave wrote:
jonesthecurl wrote:
protectedbygold wrote:I'll up the stakes - We will get rid of Miley Cyrus if Britain stops Hugh Grant from making any more movies. Everyone wins



A cultural potlach!

I'll burn everything Benny Hill ever did, if you'll do the same with Eddie Murphy (except Donkey)


Yo yo. What about Axel Foley? He was good. And so was all of the SNL stuff.



Yeah, Eddie had some funny shit especially in the beginning.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:17 am
by Frigidus
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!


Coca-Cola is delicious.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:44 am
by MeDeFe
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Re: Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:46 am
by jiminski
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.


hmm that does improve it .. but even then ...

coca-cola is the milk excreted from Satans nipples!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:51 am
by The1exile
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Or vodka.

Re: Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:53 am
by Frigidus
The1exile wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Or vodka.

Or root beer.










What?

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:55 am
by pimpdave
Frigidus wrote:
The1exile wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Or vodka.

Or root beer.










What?



Or milk!

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:58 am
by jiminski
Frigidus wrote:
The1exile wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
jiminski wrote:Well i am very happy with our constitutional Monarchy... In recent times the House of Lords has proved a vital grounding influence to short-sighted carrier politicians, who either don't care about the implications of legislation upon history or can not see them!

Resting the ultimate power in the hands of the ultimately powerless is also a very elegant and accidental quirt which leads to a fine and secure balance of power.


So i'll do you another deal... you stick your coca-cola and MacDonald's up your japs-eye, so we can abolish their consumption.
And in return, you legislate against your right to keep and bear arms.

I reckon about as many lives a year will be saved..... fascist!

Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Or vodka.

Or root beer.
What?


how have you quoted so many times?

Re: Heavycola, I have a compromise. The US will give up guns....

PostPosted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:02 am
by Frigidus
jiminski wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
The1exile wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Frigidus wrote:Coca-Cola is delicious.

Only if you add whiskey.

Or vodka.

Or root beer.
What?


how have you quoted so many times?


Dunno. Must be Satan.